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I am refinding my faith and previously practiced eastern meditation. I understand that there is a quiet catholic meditation method. My limited understanding is that we meditate on a bible passage. Is there a process to this or an app/website that offers guided meditations?

I understand that eastern meditation methods are frowned upon and I want to ensure I am not simply using my normal mediation methods but shifting focus the to god, if this is not acceptable.
 
+Reading the responses to this thread,I was reminded yet again this morning of the deep sweet . . . *ever flowing *. . . life giving river of grace of . . . Benedictine Spirituality . . . of which the Trappists are a part . . . which holy way of life . . . for centuries . . . has practiced deep communion with our . . . Wonderful Holy God . . . through constant meditation upon Sacred Scripture . . .

For some souls . . . **Sacred :bible1: Scripture ** . . . and the reading of other materials re Christianity and Catholicism . . . are approached from a very human mind-oriented/mental-intellectual approach and mindset . . . however . . . quite frankly . . . for my very simple soul in the Lord . . . graciously blest and immersed by our Lord in both Franciscan and Benedictine Catholic spiritualities . . . contemplative pray:gopray2:er and Lectio Divina (divine reading) . . . have always been my primary approach to growing in the sweet profound depths of the . . . Grace of God . . . and in Catholicism . . . day by day . . .

In these Catholic spiritualities . . . pray:gopray2:er . . . is essentially the **heart ❤️ ** of one’s soul “talking” to its God . . . on the other hand . . . meditation is taught in Sacred :bible1: Scripture and by our Holy Mother Catholic Church as essentially being the heart of one’s soul “listening” to its God . . . the ultimate goal of these actions of the soul being that at the center . . . of the deep interior quiet within the heart of the soul . . . the soul enters into . . . *constant holy conversation and communion with its God *. . .

Lectio Divina (divine reading) . . . is perhaps the clearest most well lit holy pathway I know of for the soul to “listen” to its God . . . essentially it is encountering God in the reading of a literary level of holy writings in Christendom believed to be especially blessed and anointed of God . . . first order and always primary of which is God’s . . . **Holy :bible1: Word **. . . Sacred Scripture . . . and which group of writings can also include . . . The Holy Rule of St. Benedict . . . The Catechism of the Catholic Church . . . The Baltimore Catechism . . . the Creeds . . . writings of the Fathers and Saints of the Church, etc., . . . and as such . . . when **prayerfully ** read and meditated upon the . . . **Holy Spirit **. . . Wonderful Counselor of Our God . . . is abundantly available to help regarding the reading, meditating and experiencing the understanding of same . . .

The holy Benedictine monk Archabbot Douglas R. Nowicki , O.S.B. of the Saint Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania here in the United States . . . recommends that we . . . slow down radically . . . when reflecting on inspired material . . . so as to . . . *open up freely *. . . to the treasury of insights contained therein . . . he goes on further to share with beautiful simplicity:

Lectio Divina (divine reading)
Archabbot Douglas R. Nowicki , O.S.B. (Order of St. Benedict)


“It is the **monastic insight **that reading, if it be authentic, cannot be undertaken simply with the eyes and the mind. Rather it must involve the whole person: mind, heart, body and spirit. It is reading not so much for information as for formation, that is, for encounter with the living God in this moment in such a way that one’s heart catches fire and one’s life is transformed … In St. Benedict’s day reading a sacred or spiritual text was practiced not so much for the sake of ‘information,’ but rather in order to be ‘formed’: that is, to be inwardly changed or shaped. …

Thus the aim of lectio divina (divine reading), i.e., pondering the material in a slow, prayerful way, is to dispose ourselves to welcome God’s ever-present grace and His efforts to conquer our hearts and transform us more and more into a holy people . . . ”

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Dear Blessed Lord+
. . . praise God from Whom all blessings flow+

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I am refinding my faith and previously practiced eastern meditation. I understand that there is a quiet catholic meditation method. My limited understanding is that we meditate on a bible passage. Is there a process to this or an app/website that offers guided meditations?

I understand that eastern meditation methods are frowned upon and I want to ensure I am not simply using my normal mediation methods but shifting focus the to god, if this is not acceptable.
advancedchristianity.com/Pages/Poslusney/Poslusney_Centering.htm

We’re not allowed to discuss this form of prayer in this forum.

PM me for more information if you need it

Jim
 
There is a great book called the Prayer Primer by Fr. Dubay, which explains many different types of Christian prayer and meditation excellently. He does leave out centering prayer which I agree with. I too came from an Eastern tradition (Daoist meditation), you’ll find centering prayer is aped completely from Eastern disciplines.
 
There is a great book called the Prayer Primer by Fr. Dubay, which explains many different types of Christian prayer and meditation excellently. He does leave out centering prayer which I agree with. I too came from an Eastern tradition (Daoist meditation), you’ll find centering prayer is aped completely from Eastern disciplines.
Actually this is misleading.

It is not aped from Eastern disciplines, but is merely similar.

Its a banned topic so I won’t go further with this.

You can PM me if you want more information

Jim
 
There is a great book called the Prayer Primer by Fr. Dubay, which explains many different types of Christian prayer and meditation excellently. He does leave out centering prayer which I agree with. I too came from an Eastern tradition (Daoist meditation), you’ll find centering prayer is aped completely from Eastern disciplines.
Note the subject of CP is not permitted in the forum - the Catholic Answers staff note to contact them on that subject if one has questions.
 
frjacquesphilippe.com/interview-fr-jacques-philippe

frjacquesphilippe.com/book/time-god

frjacquesphilippe.com/book/thirsting-prayer

(more reference for you about other aspects of your q: vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19891015_meditazione-cristiana_en.html)

As to Sacred Scripture - lectio divina!

From which one may take a verse to meditate on over and over during ones day etc - such is a very ancient practice in the Church.
 
Another book: Conversation with Christ by Fr. Thomas Rohrbach, OCD. This short book introduces the method of meditation advocated by St. Teresa of Avila, doctor of prayer. Some methods tend to be rather intellectual and complicated; she is more about just being with God. Note that this book doesn’t give you the meditation material itself, but tells you how to use such material. There are many books which provide meditations to consider.
 
I am refinding my faith and previously practiced eastern meditation. I understand that there is a quiet catholic meditation method. My limited understanding is that we meditate on a bible passage. Is there a process to this or an app/website that offers guided meditations?

I understand that eastern meditation methods are frowned upon and I want to ensure I am not simply using my normal mediation methods but shifting focus the to god, if this is not acceptable.
Hello Milikido

Personally I see nothing about Buddhist samatha and vipassana meditation that is in conflict with Christian/Catholic faith. It is simply learning to be still and learning to observe thoughts that come and go. Metta meditation seems very close to prayer to me and focuses us on the needs of others. Tonglen meditation, and the way of the Bodhisattva generally, seems incredibly close to the way of Jesus.

Perhaps what is in the heart matters most?

If you want something more specifically Catholic then you might like to look into books by the Benedictine John Main and (now that John is dead) Laurance Freeman. John promoted a type of meditation that focused on the phrase ‘Maranatha’. He liked the stricter discipline of Eastern meditation whereas CP, as taught especially by Thomas Keating, is more relaxed in its approach.

Br. Laurance Freeman now runs the World Community for Christian Meditation: wccm.org/

I hope you find something that works for you. Personally I find the focus on stillness that is at the heart of Eastern meditation very beneficial.

God bless +

Michael
 
Actually this is misleading.

It is not aped from Eastern disciplines, but is merely similar.

Its a banned topic so I won’t go further with this.

You can PM me if you want more information

Jim
The opinion was from Fr. Dubay, a priest and respected writer on Chistian prayer. Why is this a forbidden subject?
 
The opinion was from Fr. Dubay, a priest and respected writer on Chistian prayer. Why is this a forbidden subject?
Fr Dubay never said that CP came out of Eastern Meditation.

But its a banned topic, but I’ll gladly discus in a PM if this is what you wish.

Jim
 
I would humbly discourage people from pursuing a blend of Catholic prayer with meditation methods from the East. Forgive me, but for reasons I won’t go into here, there’s far too many red flags that go up for me. Furthermore, I find arguments with regard to the “ancientness” of some forms of modern “Catholic” meditation to be rather spurious. I’m not an expect, but those are my opinions.

I would recommend this book: amazon.com/Mental-Prayer-Vitalis-Lehodey-O-C-R/dp/0895551780/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1462147803&sr=1-1&keywords=ways+of+mental+prayer.
 
Thank you to all have posted links. You have provided a wealth of information and I will take the time to read through the various links. I am sure I will find something that works for me.

God bless
 
The only one I’m familiar is the one where you keep repeating a phrase (I was taught to say Come Lord Jesus Come"
 
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