Catholic mom thinks leggings are the problem

[Anicette]

It’s normal that nobody veil themselves in an ordinary parish. It is something that is almost exclusive of traditional latin mass parishes. And even there, many women would not be veiled.

People in extraordinary parishes are much more concerned with clothes than in the average one. I think people would tend to dress up with more for mass than in ordinary parishes. From my experience (in a different cultiral area from you) more women would be careful to wear skirts for mass, and men tend to have similar haircuts. Also some children are in private traditional schools were mothers when they go to pick up their children are not allowed to do it in trousers. So they used to wear mostly skirts. One thing I quickly learnt is that I need to have a pair of sunday clothes if I want to integrate myself. I do this even if nobody made any comments.

Latin Mass Society is a militant association that promotes Latin Mass. People who are militant, if they want to have any real weight in decisions should be well educated, influencial people and have a strong personality.
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And I don’t agree with redbetta. Yes some young people feel an aestehical and spiritual attraction toward latin mass and people who are attracted to something “mysterious”, complex and in a foreign language are mostly people who are educated.
But the traditional catholic families have a very specific culture, different from the mainstream Catholic and they tend to be have a good socio economic status. And it’s a need if you want to go to mass far away on regular basis and put children in distant and very expensive schools. Yet in the traditional parishes you will also see some people of a simple background and converts who live in a close area.

 

[Anicette]

Hmm, it seems like the TLM scene in the UK is undeniably posh.

Possible, I don’t know if it is more than in France.

But the UK have a specific history with TLM (for eg with Agatha Christie Indult, the anglican presence etc) that is different from us. It’s in France that the rebellion gave birth to the traditionalists society. There is a cleavage between traditionalists and others for decades that is more peaceful now but still exists today.

Maybe it is more peaceful in UK?

 

[Xantippe]

But the UK have a specific history with TLM (for eg with Agatha Christie Indult , the anglican presence etc) that is different from us. It’s in France that the rebellion gave birth to the traditionalists society. There is a cleavage between traditionalists and others for decades that is more peaceful now but still exists today.

In my area of Texas, there’s a strong relationship between the local college and the Latin Mass community. There are quite a few professors and graduate students at the Latin Mass, and I believe there’s especially good representation from the classics and the philosophy department. The Latin Mass community has a noticeable retro “style,” especially among the men. TLM guys loooove their tweed.

Our local Latin Mass community has the virtue of being (while somewhat distinct) not cut off from the larger local Catholic community. In fact, the Latin Mass community tends to do a lot of leadership and hospitality stuff for the college Catholic community. The families mostly homeschool.

I have told my college-age daughter that if she ever starts going regularly to the Latin Mass, she’s going to instantly have 200 new friends.

 

[Anicette]

That’s also why I think of writting: classical education, which means litterature and latin.
But I didn’t because I think that many men know choose now education toward more lucrative careers but still are better educated in those fields than the average.

In France there is a relation between traditionalists movement and the military careers. It is because of patriotism, of their education (scoutism), their values (sacrifice etc) and also because economic reasons.

Some families certainely homeschooled but it’s marginal in France, so I think that fior those who can afford they go to private traditionalist boarder schools.

I also think there is less links with university and intellectual circles than your area.

I agree with the retro style of the traditionalist community. they hods values of the past, so a distinctive mid XXth century style.

I have told my college-age daughter that if she ever starts going regularly to the Latin Mass, she’s going to instantly have 200 new friends.

That’s would be a big community according to our european standard!

I agree, it’s my experience, once you are integrated everything followed and everyone will become your friend. You will be well treated!
But I also experience that’s once you are out, you are out.

 

[Peeps]

Yes some young people feel an aestehical and spiritual attraction toward latin mass and people who are attracted to something “mysterious”, complex and in a foreign language are mostly people who are educated.
But the traditional catholic families have a very specific culture, different from the mainstream Catholic and they tend to be have a good socio economic status. And it’s a need if you want to go to mass far away on regular basis and put children in distant and very expensive schools. Yet in the traditional parishes you will also see some people of a simple background and converts who live in a close area.

I think you have assessed this well, although there are always exceptions. I agree with much of your analysis of the economic status of Latin Mass lovers, although at the Latin Mass parish in my city, there are people who live very simply and I think they are probably not financially-secure. But they are not complaining about it but living it in faith.

 

[Peeps]

As for women wearing dresses, this is not strictly a traditional Catholic thing. Many women who have no love of God or religion wear dresses more often than slacks/leggings.

My older daughter, who IS a faithful Catholic, prefers to wear dresses, even in casual settings. She has a beautiful figure and legs that could win prizes (thanks to years of figure skating!), and she turns heads! Some of her dresses were given to her by actresses, and all of her dresses are interesting (she loves vintage clothiing, mid-century modern, and also ethnic-type dresses, especially Latina, even though she is very pale).

Her dresses are modest, but when someone looks so amazingly good in a dress/skirt and people are turning around to gape–the word “modesty” should perhaps be re-defined! Sometimes—a woman dressed up actually attracts more attention than a woman wearing slacks or leggings and a tunic or cardigan. Is it really modesty when people stare and admire?

 

[Anicette]

although at the Latin Mass parish in my city, there are people who live very simply and I think they are probably not financially-secure. But they are not complaining about it but living it in faith.

Thanks you Peeps for your contribution and valuable observation.

That’s more or less what I said in the same post.

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[Anicette]

I agree with you that some women who are beautiful and in a evening dress attract more attention than a woman in loose ordinary pants!

All the dresses are not the same and many discover a lot more of body than a trouser.

I wear only ankle-lenght dresses/skirts. Unless I make sports (half an hour a week. I gone and left in a skirt).

 

[Katie777]

I think footless tights or leggings are a blessing.
You can wear open toed or pumps with them under a dress.
Nothing is more ugly then thick stockings bunched up in a pump…or stockings with feet with open toe shoes