Catholic Music Publication - Cantica Nova Publications

[JimR-OCDS]

I didn’t mean for this to become a debate session - just to pass along info.

Its one of the problems with fundies in this forum. Anyone they perceive to be a liberal, will be attacked.

Fortunately, their attacks are easy to debunk.

Jim

 

[VociMike]

I never stated USCCB approval was required. However, when a publication has the approval, you don’t have to worry about it, even when fundamentalist in here condemn it.

Again, all I asked, did the OP’s hymnal have the approval?

Why you turned this into some sort of a war is beyond me.

Jim

OK, I’m going to retract my comment doubting your sincerity. You have now convinced me that whenever you are made aware of a music publisher, regardless of genre, your first question is always about their USCCB approval or lack thereof.

 

[VAC]

Sarabande,

The website was interesting, and I might consider submitting some songs I’ve written, but unfortunately the site states they will not accept anything with guitar or piano accompaniment which is the only instrumentation, of our music ministry (except for a rare appearance by a bongo player from the Spanish mass).
However, I was surprised to read that brass and strings, and woodwinds are allowed, plus the organ. Their prejudice against certain instruments does not strike me as very spiritual, so I would be unlikely to submit anything to them.

To Mike and Jim:

Here is the wording from the inside of an OCP publication. It is my interpretation that the psalms from the lectionary and order of the mass are what is ‘approved’ by the USSCB.

The English translation of some Psalm Responses from Lectionary for Mass (copyright symbol) 1969, 1981, 1997, International Committee on the English in the Liturgy, Inc (ICEL)
; excerpts from the English translation of the Roman Missal
excerpts from the English translation of the Liturgy of the Hours (copyright) 1974, ICEL. all rights reserved used with permission.

Some Psalm responses and Psalm verses from the Lectionary for mass for use in dioceses in the US of A, second typical edition (copyright) 1970,1986,1992, 2001, Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Incv. Washingtion DC. All rights reserved, used with permission.
Published with approval of the Committee on the Liturgy, National Conference of Cathlolic Bishops.

So the approval of the USCCB is about permission to use the copyrighted ICEL translations of material from the Roman Missal and Lectionalry for mass. NOT about approving or disapproving any specific songs as appropriate for mass.

I have read similar info in every one of my hymnal and accompaniment books. None of the contain any ‘official approval’
of songs for mass, including the Adoremus Hymnal, which I recently got my hands on.

If anyone out there gets their hands on an offically accepted music publication with songs approved for mass, I would love to see it.

 

[VociMike]

To Mike and Jim:

Here is the wording from the inside of an OCP publication. It is my interpretation that the psalms from the lectionary and order of the mass are what is ‘approved’ by the USSCB.

So the approval of the USCCB is about permission to use the copyrighted ICEL translations of material from the Roman Missal and Lectionalry for mass. NOT about approving or disapproving any specific songs as appropriate for mass.

I have read similar info in every one of my hymnal and accompaniment books. None of the contain any ‘official approval’
of songs for mass, including the Adoremus Hymnal, which I recently got my hands on.

If anyone out there gets their hands on an offically accepted music publication with songs approved for mass, I would love to see it.

I appreciate your posting that, it clears things up a bit. That’s a far cry from a question about whether a publisher itself has (or, by implication, needs) USCCB approval.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

I appreciate your posting that, it clears things up a bit. That’s a far cry from a question about whether a publisher itself has (or, by implication, needs) USCCB approval.

I did not mean to say that publisher needs approval. I can see how my statement made it look that way. My apology!

That being said, VAC is correct. In re-reading the inside cover of the “We Celebrate” Hymnal, Published by World Library Publications it says;

“The English and Spanish translations of the official liturgical texts in this hymnal have been approved by the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, confirmed by the Apostolic See.”

On this point, I stand corrected. It is the parts of the Mass which are approved, not the hymns outside of the Mass.

Again, my apologies!

Jim

 

[Sarabande]

Hi Vac,

Thank you for your comments and I’m so happy that everything is cleared up between everyone. I was up in NYC for a music rehearsal all afternoon and just got back, so I’m sorry I’m writing this later.

I’m sorry you don’t think you’ll be able to submit your works. As with many publishing houses, each one has certain standards or ideals of what they want to publish. I don’t think it has anything with being unspiritual or spiritual. Although I am a classically-trained musician and make now make my living doing this, I was also trained as a journalist and writer in college. (Please don’t measure how I write on these forums to my actual writing ability. I’ve actually had articles published and my writing has been used as samples in my professor’s books as “excellent” writing.) I also have a father-in-law who was in the publishing business with the big boys for years. So, I learned a lot about getting works published and what they look for in writing compositions. They all have standards. The better ones (literature or music) have very high standards no matter what genre.

Certain publishing houses only publish classical music. You won’t see Barenreiter publish contemporary folk music, for example. I think this house specializes in the standard classical western art music form. So, I’m wondering if you composed your music in that form, you could probably do it. What you could do is compose something that could be played both on piano and organ. Hymns originally done for organ are very easy to transcribe for piano if a church only has a piano and cannot afford an organ. Anyway, just a thought.