Catholic,Orthodox... at the same time

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Raised and baptized as Orthodox but i wanna be more than this.When you get baptized in Orthodox church they keep a record of your info and when you get baptized.If you wanna convert to another nomination all you have to do is ask for that paper and give it to the church you wanna convert to eg Catholic. I wanna ask if its possible to be officialy both Orthodox,Catholic,Protestant at the same time.I wanna give my baptize paper to the Catholic church but not deleted from the Orthodox church and reverse or even give it to a Protestant church too.
I wanna do this cause i believe multi Christian nominations only divide Christians.Christianity is under attack.Is it possible to do this?

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Well, Catholicism and Orthodoxy aren’t really denominations, as they trace themselves back to the Apostles. Have you ever heard of the Melkite Greek Catholic church? They consider themselves “Orthodox, in union with Rome”, I believe other Byzantine rite Catholic churches use the term. You could stay in the Orthodox Church, and you’ll have access to all the sacraments, but, if you do that, and you believe the authority of the Pope of Rome is needed, you can do one of two things, became a Byzantine rite Catholic, or explain why Holy Orthodoxy needs a final voice.
 
Orthodox and Catholic have the True Presence. Protestants don’t.

Also what seems problematic is Catholic Church is pro-life in terms of doctrine morality yet not all protestants are, as with other doctrinal issues. Fauken had a very good answer
 
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Is it possible to remove the denomination and just be a Christian?Theres gotta be a way.
 
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Athanasios39 said:
If you wanna convert to another nomination…you wanna convert to eg Catholic.
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Orthodoxy is not a denomination, nor is Catholicism. Only Protestants denominate.
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to be officialy both Orthodox,Catholic,Protestant
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No.
Athanasios39 said:
I wanna give my baptize paper to the Catholic church but not deleted from the Orthodox church and reverse or even give it to a Protestant church too.
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Why?
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Is it possible to do this?
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No.

If you want to work for unity, accept where you are, and shoulder the work of ecumenism.
 
Fauken said:
You cannot serve both God and mammon. You cannot claim Francis as Pope while simultaneously denying the Papacy.
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This isn;t really fair to the OP. He is not trying to serve ungodly things.
 
guanophore said:
This isn;t really fair to the OP. He is not trying to serve ungodly things.
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Depending on what kind of Protestants he attends service with, they may tell him the Papacy is ungodly, which is a rather un-godly doctrine. He may not be trying to serve un-godly things, but some of the doctrines those other groups espouse are not godly.
 
Athanasios39 said:
Is it possible to remove the denomination and just be a Christian?Theres gotta be a way.
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You are not denominated now!

No, there is no way to morally abandon the faith of Christ preserved infallibly in the Church by the Holy Spirit.
 
Fauken said:
Depending on what kind of Protestants he attends service with, they may tell him the Papacy is ungodly, which is a rather un-godly doctrine. He may not be trying to serve un-godly things, but some of the doctrines those other groups espouse are not godly.
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What he is saying is that he wants to “just be Christian” because he is provoked by the separations. Clearly he does not understand what that means, but it is not a problem of desiring worldly goods.
 
Was just an example my main concern is .Orthodox and Catholic.
 
Have you looked into the Byzantine Catholic Churches? Many of us, such as myself, use the phrase “Orthodox in Communion with Rome.” This is specific to the Melkite Church yet some of is easterners have adopted this.

Now, you would only want to look into the Eastern Catholic Churches if you feel communion with Rome is important.

ZP
 
IMO it’s a personal conviction…a lot of Latins will say that you can’t have both…my thinking on it is “meh…I dont’ care what they think anymore”; and I suspect that the Melkites think the same 😉

In all seriousness though, just stay Orthodox…you have the Eucharist, the bread of life. Jesus said that whomever eats of it will live forever…Protestants don’t have that nor do most of them teach that it is necessary.
 
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Protestants was just an example.I mostly care for Orthodox and Catholic.
 
well then the main issue comes with the role of the Bishop of Rome. What role do you think he has (or should have)? Therein lies your answer.
 
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Is it possible to remove the denomination and just be a Christian?Theres gotta be a way.
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Well non-denominational Christianity has tried. But they essentially will still have denominations, just not denominations with names. As you mentioned you’re concerned about Catholic-Orthodox, I’d recommend researching the Schism of 1054. The theological expression of Eastern Catholicism and Orthodoxy are pretty much the same so the question of Catholic or Orthodox is more a matter of politics so to speak than theology. (At least from my Catholic perspective. An Orthodox person may have a different view.)

As you mentioned you’re Orthodox right now, I will say that you’re more than welcome to come to a Catholic Mass/Divine Liturgy. And the Orthodox are allowed to our Eucharist. (Though your Orthodox bishop may guidelines that you should abstain from Catholic Eucharist.)

I do feel for you as I too wish there wasn’t separation between Catholic and Orthodox. That the hierarchies were able to make a decision and all be in union with each other again. I don’t think it’ll happen in my lifetime, but it is something to pray for as this divide in the Body of Christ is nothing to rejoice over. And while I haven’t yet, I know that for myself I will eventually need to do a deep study into the 1054 schism. Because while the divide is regrettable, it is important to know where one stands.
 
The quote is usually 33,000. However there are definitely issues with that study. (And in all fairness, I used to think that number was accurate myself.) However, a an article from the National Catholic Register does a decent job at debunking that number and one the most pertinent quick quotes in my opinion is the following:
And then the WCE somehow comes up with 242 Catholic denominations. That should be a big glaring red flag that it has been a bit—how shall we say?—free and loose with the word “denomination.”
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I agree with your sentiment that there are many more Protestant denominations and the associated issues. But it’s always good for us to have our facts accurate lest our separated brethren mock us for our lack of knowledge and subsequently ignore the call to our faith.
 
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How come Melkites can have both?
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The Melkites have managed to be simultaneously in communion with both Rome and Constantinope for hundred of years post-schism.

They are indeed are best hope . . .
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The quote is usually 33,000. However there are definitely issues with that study.
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Take the number of Baptist churches in a state, multiply by 1.26, and that will give you the number of Baptist denominations in that state 😜:roll_eyes:🤣

bam
 
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