Catholic parish and Protestant congregation differences

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The size difference was really shocking to me when I first went to a Catholic church. I was so used to having no more than 100 people in a church at one time that to see at least double that and hear that was a SMALL parish was shocking. That’s probably why some people in parishes don’t know each other; because there are so many people in them it’s difficult to know everyone.
 
It seems to me that the reason that Protestants are so agressively friendly to visitors is that, if they haven’t seen you there before, there’s a good chance that you’re “church shopping”, and they want you back. So they all introduce themselves and invite you to have socialize after their service, go to Bible study, wednesday night services, etc.

If you see a new face at Mass, I would say there’s a 99% chance that they’re already Catholic.
 
I have never been a protestant, but, living in the Bible Belt, I have been to a good number of protestant services for one reason or another. First thing to know is that there is a lot of variation among the various protestant churches. Some are almost totally social organizations, some are very faith-based. I have been to Mass with protestants as well, and observed and heard their reactions. Probably the most telling comment I ever heard from a mainline protestant after he attended a Catholic funeral was: (spoken to another protestant, within my hearing). “You know, those people actually BELIEVE.” The other nodded, rather solemnly and, I thought, glumly. One expressed to me, on more than one occasion how much he wished he could believe in the Eucharist; that life would make so much sense if he could. So far, unfortunately, he’s still out there in his unbelief. I’m not saying no protestants believe. Lots do. But watch a protestant at a Mass, particularly at a funeral Mass, and 9 times out of 10 you’ll see wide-eyed wonder. Say what you want about Catholic reserve, you go to a Catholic funeral, and you see a lot of belief and a lot of love and a lot of hope, and it registers.

I think a lot of the social thing has to do with the cultural reserve of many who are Catholic. But I know as well as I know my own name that there is a relationship among me and other parishioners I have known for years that the relationship is not social. It’s spiritual. I do have concern for the spiritual welfare of my fellow parishioners, and I know most do for me. And I know if I called any one of them and wanted to talk out a problem, I could do so. I have had a number of calls from people I almost never spoke to other than “hi. How are you?” about their lives; problems, concerns, and it’s like taking a call from a brother. When one of them dies, it’s almost impossible for me to stay dry-eyed, and I know in my heart I truly want them to be immediately with God. And I expect when it’s my turn to die, that’s how they’ll be.
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(finishing my post. Sorry it’s so long.)

I, for one, have no problem at all with children, including babies, in Church. I like seeing them; little souls just starting out on their journeys. I feel like thanking those parents for having them. There’s one thing about taking kids to Mass; they need to see what’s going on. When I had little kids, I took care to hold them up high so they could see what was going on. When they got a little bigger, I would lift them up so they could (with my help) stand on the back of the pew in front. They paid a lot of attention to the Mass that way. A little bigger, and I would put them in the aisle seat so they could peek out and look up the aisle. I encouraged them to do it, and if they stepped out into the aisle to see better, I didn’t stop them. After Mass, I took them to the front to light candles and say their little prayers. I remember a three year old whispering to me during the Consecration once “Why does Jesus get into that little ball?” (the host. I guess it looked like a ball to her. You really could have knocked me down with a feather. Don’t know how she came up with that.) Gave me a nice opportunity, after Mass, to explain to her about the Host and the Eucharist and Transubstantiation, and how someday she would receive Jesus too, and how special that would be. “But will He bleed?” she asked. That opened up a whole other topic. I realize a lot of young parents are tired and harried, and I bless them for their efforts. It’s not easy, I know. If they would appreciate child care, I wouldn’t resent their desire. But as for me, the more kids at Mass, the better. Now that I’m older, I like taking the grandkids to Mass, to stations. I don’t know. I just like seeing children there. My old Italian grandfather carried candy in his pocket at Mass so if a little kid wandered distractedly out in the aisle, or came down the pew toward him, he could give the child a piece of candy and send or take him/her back to his/her mother. Kept the kid well occupied for a little while, and did no harm. I liked that. When I was a little kid, I learned to recognize people of every age. Through the years, I watched them age, get old, and I usually knew when they died. I can’t exactly say why that has been important to me, and why I have often thought about all those years of their prayers, but it has been. As a child, I would watch, particularly, old people, and, since it was inconceivable to me that old people could sin, I thought of their breathed prayers being like incense, ascending straight to God. I don’t know why they fascinated me so, but they did. I could tell some kids had clothing on that was worn or too big or little for them, and I would look at their parents; the lines on their faces, the veins on their hands, and imagine how hard they worked for that too-long dress or bloused-out shirt, and everything else. And, of course, they were praying to the same God the rich parents were praying to. If you watch somebody standing still for awhile, you notice a lot. And I think maybe you can appreciate their lives more for that. I particularly remember an old lady named Kate Riordan. She was short and bent, and she always sat in the same place. So did we, and the vigil lights were always behind her from my perspective. I remember watching her say her prayers with the vigil lights flickering behind her like a halo. I knew she had to be young once, and maybe beautiful. She had even been a kid once, and I knew it, but I couldn’t picture it. I thought maybe she committed some sins when she was younger, but watching her, I couldn’t help thinking she had finally beaten the world and was truly holy now. There was some comfort in believing that. She got older and more frail, and I watched her do it. She always wore the same hat, year in and year out. I “knew” her before I was in school, but I was in the parish school when she died, and like all the parochial school children in the parish then, I sang at her funeral Mass. I can’t tell you why watching Kate Riordan pray, decline and die made my faith stronger, but it did. And I think it meant more to me than a childcare Bible reading would have. Children, I think, see and think about a lot more than we sometimes think they do, and I would not want to deprive any child of such experiences.
 
Hmm. I now go to an Episcopalian parish, used to be Catholic. The biggest difference I’ve found with the worship is that the songs are older in the Episcopalian Church and we kneel at the altar rail to receive.
 
Good topic, since I like many Catholics was wayward in their youth and “shopped around” for a good Church. I would say that at first the Protestant Churches seemed friendlier, but after time I realized they weren’t, people are people no matter where you for better or worse. I also thought they were “more spiritual”, but then again realized they aren’t, Catholic’s and Protestants show it in different ways. You have the folks in botht hat are just there to please someone and counting the seconds, and the fakers, and gossipers etc…

I guess Protestants sing more, but since I dislike singing that works fine for me. I just assume get rid of all the hymns or leave it to the choir.

In the end the people are no different at all. Some are hgihly devoted, some are thinking of taking the over in the Jets game later that day, and some are their just for appearances.

Overall I much prefer the Catholic Mass, it’s more reverent, humble, and manly if that makes sense to anyone.
 
Hi all,
Hmmm. This is a huge question.

I’ve had very little exposure to Protestant worship services except for Lutheran. I’ve been to all make and variety of Lutheran, from very liberal to very very conservative, traditional to very contemporary, and high church to low church style. Difficult to generalize given the wide array of possibilities just within Lutheranism. Anyway…

Lutheran:
Typically not as much reverence, especially in low church and contemporary services. However, Lord’s Supper belief is in Real Presence (but not Transubstantiation) so there’s certainly reverence for that. Extensive emphasis on music: in contemporary worship it’s well done modern Evangelical style Praise music; in traditional worship it’s some very well done 16-19th century Hymns. People typically very friendly, although some traditional churches can be pretty cold. Lots and lots of emphasis on explanatory preaching in sermons, some of which can last a long time. Liturgically, the high church style is based heavily on Catholic mass so it’s very structured (it even uses the “And With Your Spirit” response that will be part of the Catholic new translation to come out soon) and it incorporates the “Glory Be” prayer each week too, although most Lutherans don’t know it as such. People typically more active in weekday activities, such as Bible Studies and Vacation Bible School. But not always. Again, some congregations, especially dying ones, can be quite insular, cold and not interested in being much of a community.

Catholic:
Heavy emphasis on structured Liturgy. In general more reverence. Most people not singing. Music not particularly noteworthy or singable, although I’ve heard some Gregorian Chant and some Palestrina and it is absolutely glorious. Homilies typically less meaty than a good sermon, and usually not much exposition about the Bible verses themselves – although this is not true will all priests; some are very good at this. Not a lot of emphasis on Bible Study, although some parishes do seem to have an array of classes – probably has a lot to do with resources and people qualified to teach it in the congregation. Typically church more beautiful with traditional art, although honestly the most beautiful church I’ve ever been in was a Lutheran cathedral with more stained glass and symbolic sculpture than any Catholic one I’ve been in. People mostly friendly.

This is an enormous set of generalizations. I hope it sounds charitable because I certainly mean it to be. From my vantage point, I think I’ve been blessed to have been part of a few very good and perhaps unusually special Lutheran congregations, and my direct experience with Catholic parishes has been with less-than-noteworthy ones, so maybe if I saw the parish life of a thriving, wonderful Catholic parish with bible studies and beautiful music and lots of activity I’d have more positives in the Catholic category. It does seem to me that the loss of Catholic musical heritage has been a catastrophe for the faith.

Blessings to all!
MarkAA
P.S. I’m a cradle Catholic who converted to Lutheran faith in College, just so all the cards are on the table. 🙂
 
ridgerunner, I had one of those “old” prayers in my parish too. Her name was Grandma Cecilia, everyone called her grandma. The children at my catholic school also sang at her funeral. Thanks for the memory. I’ve only been to a protestant service one time in my life. I found it hollow, compared to the Mass. On Labor day weekend, my husband and I were visiting his brother and wife at their lake cabin. I have enjoyed attending Sunday mass at small catholic churches throughout the lake regions that the cabin is in. On this particular weekend we happened to see a small flyer at a local cafe that invited people to come to Mass at a small church(population of the town it was in was under 100) that had a Grotto. Well my sister in law is Lutheran, but had always wanted to go there and see it, so I invited her to come along. She was so happy that she had a “catholic” to go with so she’d know what to do!!What we happened upon that early sunny Sunday morning was a catholic church , that was overwhelmed with visitors each Sunday. In 1955 they built a Grotto in the grassy valley next to the church, it is an exact replica of the grotto of our Lady of Lourdes. although I could go on and on about this Grotto, I’ll save that for another thread! When we were finished with Mass and on the way back to the cabin my sister in law blurted out" You are so lucky to be Catholic" she couldn’t believe how mass was so centered on prayer, and worship of God. How quiet and powerful it was. She also proclaimed that maybe it was time for her family to find another church(I was beaming inside!!!) She told me of their Palm Sunday services at her local Lutheran church, and how her husband came home and said" the minister talked about the Davinci code on Palm Sunday" what in the world did that have to do with our Saviors entrance into Jerusalem. He hasn’t gone back since. So I guess that’s the difference I see in my limited experiences with other faiths, centered prayer to God, worship that is intended to please Him, and the true gift of the Eucharist. Quite a difference in my opinion.
 
anything will work.

for me, i notice the protestant congregations are much more friendly and usually have AWESOME programming. I love going to church on a wednesday night and having my choice of 3-4 well done bible studies.
My experiences have been quite similar, except that the parish I now attend is FAR friendlier and more compassionate than the evangelical church I recently left. Sure, the evangelical congregation seemed friendlier on the surface, as they practically love-bomb you when you first join, but after that, relationships were shallow at best, and judgmental at worst. Quite a few of the more long-term members were hard-core fundamentalists, and don’t accept anyone different from themselves. Others were guilty of judging my wife and I as bad parents, while refusing to accept our explanation that our children have disabilities that cause them to act less-than-perfect most of the time. When we suggested changes to the children’s program to make it more accepting and accomodating of children with disabilities, we were marginalized.

In terms of programming, the evangelical and Catholic churches I’ve attended have been quite similar. Our parish has a “Kids for Jesus” children’s program and CCD, while our old church had “AWANA” and Sunday school. Both offer adult and youth Bible studies, and both have exemplary records of public service opportunities (such as ministries for the poor, etc.). Both churches offer children’s sports teams (though our evangelical kids played against each other in a non-competitive manner, and our parish kids compete against teams from other churches). Both churches have vibrant and talented music programs (though our parish emphasized traditional Catholic hymns, and our old music ministry was based on more modern praise and worship songs).

One of our parishioners teaches an apologetics class, and surprisingly, I never saw such a thing at my old church.

Where our new parish has our old church beat into the ground is in the area of pro-life ministries. We hear about protecting the unborn from the pulpit, have updates about pro-life community activites in the bulletin, ahd have quite a few members (including at least one of our permanent deacons) who minister and pray near abortion mills.

Of course, the most important element present in my parish (and in all other Catholic parishes) and missing from my old evangelical church is the Eucharist. Even if all the Bible studies, public service opportunities, pro-life ministries and children’s programs ceased to exist, I would have absolutely no reason to go anywhere else.
 
IMy neighbor is Independent Baptist also and she has been taught to practice something called 'friendship witnessing." … What happens if the person doesn’t want to be a Christian? Do you drop them as a friend?
Sadly, I’ve seen it happen.
 
I grew up Lutheran, and Methodist, those churches were very liturgical, I am now Catholic. I’ve always got the creeps when I went to one of these Evangelical churches. The people were so friendly “kinda reminded of the movie Stepford Wives,” :whacky: I felt uncomfortable.
 
The only particular church I attended where I felt people were genuinely friendly was a Mennonite church. Everyone was really very pleasant, and they’re wonderful faith-filled people (although the Charismatic Episcopalians have always been really nice to me too). I have to say, I’ve never been to a church where I’ve found people I DIDN’T like.
 
I have a brother who married a Mennonite girl and now he is a Mennonite. I have never been to one of their Sunday Services though.
 
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