Catholic politics causing division?

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I second that.

Many of the people here who are very vocal about… Certain things… Seem to be either totally unaware of what the Church teaches, or they just don’t care what the Church teaches.

Whereas in person, I’ve never met a single person in the Church who expresses the views I see everyday on CAF…
 
Most important of all:. There is a danger of making ones religion a political party. The political leanings of Pope’s depends on the pope. I don’t know any pope as ‘left’ as this pope. JPII and Benedict we’re fairly ‘right’.
But anyway, this doesn’t really matter. If you want the churches stance on anything, read the catechism. Economists with Dr degrees get the economy wrong and we Catholics were not given Divine knowledge of what form of government is best.
 
miriam5 said:
Do most think we have an obligation to help the poor and needy?

Do any think we should stay out of politics?
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Never seen anyone from either side suggest we shouldn’t help the poor and needy. The disagreement is on the method and how much, both very appropriate things to disagree about and work to resolve.

No, you can’t care about your community and not engage in some political thinking.

There are surveys that will show you the Dem vs GOP breakdown for Catholics.
The below survey shows:
44% Dem
37% Republican
19% Independent
Incidentally, this is the average for all US Adults.

 
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There are Catholics on both sides of the political spectrum.

Some policies that are actually moral or religious questions are upheld as political, so for instance, you shouldn’t support abortion.
 
The op wanted y’all to know she wanted to reply to some comments but she can’t do it freely as you know since she’s new.

Meanwhile Parkland MSD survivor Emma Gonzalez reached 1 million followers on Twitter.

NRA: 595K

Pope Francis: 16.8 million

President Trump: 48.5 million

President Obama: 100.3 million
 
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Imo, the Democratic party does not help people as much as it is given credit for doing…

And over the decades the Republican party has not done enough to obliterate abortion.

AND, NEITHER party has expressed disgust with taxpayer dollars funding the lessons that inform and advise the young that they can receive birth control and abortions without their parents’ (the ones whose taxes are PAYING for these lessons that undermine their authority) permission.

Where’s the outrage? i remember these lessons when they were nothing more than information I needed to know to pass a stupid test. But as years past, I came to realize that the young are being groomed to be preyed upon - or they’ve become the preyers themselves.

PLEASE - PAY ATTENTION! Because WE learned these horrid lessons, but now it’s our children, grandchildren, etc. who are. And THEY deserve BETTER! And as Christians we should be a lot more vocal in our disgust with regard to these matters - which as we know CAN have EVERLASTING consequences!. Remember, EVERYONE’s tax dollars fund the indoctrination of these Godless lessons to ALL children. And NOW, they’ve added bonus lessons that apparently inform VERY young children that they can PICK THEIR PRONOUN…among other unnatural life-altering, unnecessary BAD advice!
 
miriam5 said:
Is the Catholic church mostly GOP or mostly politically progressive…
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Neither. The Catholic Church is catholic, and describing it in political terms is to totally misunderstand the terms of the discussion.
 
The Millienials annoyed you because they loved new and special rights more than life itself?
 
Spyridon said:
I should add:

In general, with moral issues and societal issues (abortion, euthanasia, LGBTQ issues, etc.) the Republican Party is better aligned with Catholic principles.

When it comes down to certain other issues, especially financial, welfare, and justice (things like foodstamps, immigration, welfare, Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, prison reform, opposition to capital punishment) the Democratic Party aligns better with Catholic principles.

Other issues, like the military, it really is a situation by situation basis to see which party aligns better with the Church.

I would tend to think of the Democratic Party as being, overall, closer to Catholic social teaching as a whole, and traditionally American Catholics were Democrats.

A LOT of Catholics left the Democratic Party for the GOP however in the 1970’s in the wake of Roe v Wade because the GOP opposed it, and for many Catholics, politically nothing is more important than the issue of abortion.
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I think that a lot of the reason that our country is messed up (in terms of families, single moms, poverty, welfare dependence) are due to the horrible policies of the welfare state espoused by democrats.
“That which the government subsidizes, it encourages”. Don’t you think that democrat-led policies are causing a permament underclass - - I think of it as the “poverty-industrial complex”.
So I don’t think you can say that Democrats are DE FACTO the party of Catholic social teaching. No. A lot of people would not agree with that.
How is it that these things (support of the welfare state) were not part of Catholic social teaching up until the 1960s? Is it the influence of liberation theology / communist teaching?
 
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They among others are being encouraged to divorce themselves from common sense…for what?

Who’s PROFITING off of preaching a twisted, false *reality" to humanity, ESPECIALLY the young? I mean besides the Dr. Frankenstein wannabe s…

On an earthly level, convincing humans not to procreate is BIG business. And of course on a spiritual level, ruining people’s lives and souls only makes hell happy.
 
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In plain English… It’s better to be a nut than to be a normal human being?
 
Salutations
Being Christian means you live as close to being Christ as possible. Would Jesus perform an abortion? Would Jesus pull the switch on a death judgement? NO & NEVER. Can we vote for pro choice or pro death penalty ppl= NO NO.
Yes, your political position is to be Christ. The Pope has said, not to give Communion to Congressppl who vote pro-choice. Some priests don’t. Some priests do. When Sen. Kennedy died there was talk about not giving him a requiem mass(?). ??They did.
Our Pope, is eco conscious. He is open borders and global embracing all. He’d tolerate illegal aliens. If he thought it out, he’d want Rule of Law,BUT, insanity reigns now. In any society there will be disagreement. If Pope speaks EX Cathdra, that is to be obeyed. Rest, we can argue. Read Bible and Catechism for guidance.
In Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
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