Catholic priest converts to Islam

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I saw a report concerning a Catholic priest who converted to Islam. However, I don’t know all the details of the background of the Catholic priest. He says that part of the motivation was from the good example of people in Egypt praying five times a day:
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Does anyone have further information on this?
 
This actually happened several years ago. He has a web site at idristawfiq.com/, where for his Bio page he has an interview he gave with an Irish journalist. One of the things in this article that struck me was this statement:

A De La Salle brother for 15 years, Idris later studied for the priesthood in Rome. Doubts about his vocation eventually led him to leave the priesthood, triggering a period of uncertainty about what direction his life would take.

So he was a brother, a member of a religious order, for 15 years before studying for the priesthood. What is not clear and what I cannot find out is if he ever actually was ordained a priest.

Although it doesn’t say so, I gather from the article that there was a period of at least two or three years from when he left his vocation until the time he became Muslim. So this isn’t a case where a priest got up one morning and decided to chuck it all and become Muslim, or decided that he could be both Catholic and Muslim, or anything like that. I wouldn’t put too much stock in it until we can find out if he ever was ordained as a priest, when he was ordained, and when he was laicized.
 
bobzills said:
I saw a report concerning a Catholic priest who converted to Islam. However, I don’t know all the details of the background of the Catholic priest. He says that part of the motivation was from the good example of people in Egypt praying five times a day:
youtube.com/watch?v=pn0iPlWQNlI
Does anyone have further information on this?
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I like the example of Mother Teresa, who prayed for upwards of 4 hours a day.

Does that mean that if wiccans prayed 6 hours a day, he would become wiccan?

Does that mean that if millions of people meditate on television, that he would become a worshipper of the television or the internet?

There are a lot of false gods, and misleading religions. To choose the one that has added only a sword, and nothing more than what christianity already gave us through Christs sacrifice, is rediculous.
 
justinthemartyr said:
I like the example of Mother Teresa, who prayed for upwards of 4 hours a day.

Does that mean that if wiccans prayed 6 hours a day, he would become wiccan?

Does that mean that if millions of people meditate on television, that he would become a worshipper of the television or the internet?

There are a lot of false gods, and misleading religions. To choose the one that has added only a sword, and nothing more than what christianity already gave us through Christs sacrifice, is rediculous.
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I think that the point that he was making in the video was that he saw that in Egypt every Muslim took out time, five times every day, to get down and pray fervently. It is true that there are Catholic Saints who do this and more, but what percentage of Catholics would do this publicly, five times a day? And this was only one reason he gave among many others:
See:
idristawfiq.com/On%20the%20road.html
 
bobzills said:
I think that the point that he was making in the video was that he saw that in Egypt every Muslim took out time, five times every day, to get down and pray fervently. It is true that there are Catholic Saints who do this and more, but what percentage of Catholics would do this publicly, five times a day? And this was only one reason he gave among many others:
See:
idristawfiq.com/On%20the%20road.html
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What’s that got to do with anything? Remember what Jesus told us about praying?

Matt. 6-5

"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward. 6 But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.

Vickie
 
Islam teaches that the best prayers are those in your own house, except for the mandatory prayers. 🙂
 
As a Muslim I will give my opinion on this:

1:00-1:23:- Muslims are terrorists and chop hands.
That is somehow true, (Quran 8:60) clearly states “strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies”, this is the main verse from Quran, and our Muslims Jihadist are referring to it when fighting.
For chopping hands, that is also true, this (Quran 5:38) verse from Quran clearly states that the hands of a thief should be chopped.

2:20-2:30:- We teach our kids to say that from their childhood, that is part of our culture.

2:40-2:50:- He has never seen people in England, France or America with deep faith in their vein, well I say to him wait till you see amateur people from Saudi Arabia (the heart of Islam) then you can judge.

3:25-3:32:- He knew nothing about Islam except what he has seen in Egypt, I say to him, come to Saudi Arabia to learn the true Islamic culture.

3:38:3:45:- The more he reads the more he likes about Islam, well, I say to him learn Arabic first then Judge, you have to read both Quran & Hadith in Arabic to take the full picture about Islam.

5:00-5:15- Working with Egyptian children taught him what Islam is like, well, I say to him, why you don’t work with Arabic amateur religious clerks instead of children!

6:15-6:20- He said he fasted with Egyptian boys in Ramadan, well, I will ask him, did you pray with them also the night prayers (Taraweeh & Qeyam Alyel) and heard their curses!

7:40-7:50:- He is asking Allah to make him better Muslim, well, the best ranked Muslims in our Islamic religion are those who fight and die in the battle, is he ready to do so!
 
bobzills said:
I think that the point that he was making in the video was that he saw that in Egypt every Muslim took out time, five times every day, to get down and pray fervently.
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You mean like how he, as a Catholic priest, was supposed to be praying the Liturgy of the Hours five times a day?
 
bobzills said:
He says that part of the motivation was from the good example of people in Egypt praying five times a day:
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He could have prayed 5 times a day as a Catholic Priest and been an example to others, lame excuse.

Whatever happened to praying to Our Father in secret ?
 
Perhaps it was the fact that lay people in Islam–absolutely everyone MUST pray five times a day, at a MINIMUM. It isn’t just a goal for the scholars or clerics, but a minimum for every single person in Islam.

The really religious people pray much much more than that, regularly.

It’s common in the month of Ramadan for average people to spend hours (here it’s at least 3) in prayer during the night–so when a person spends the entire day thirsty and hungry, instead of taking the chance to eat and sleep and be lazy at night they will stand late in prayer–and then get up early to pray again.
 
Sister_Amy said:
Perhaps it was the fact that lay people in Islam–absolutely everyone MUST pray five times a day, at a MINIMUM. It isn’t just a goal for the scholars or clerics, but a minimum for every single person in Islam.

The really religious people pray much much more than that, regularly.

It’s common in the month of Ramadan for average people to spend hours (here it’s at least 3) in prayer during the night–so when a person spends the entire day thirsty and hungry, instead of taking the chance to eat and sleep and be lazy at night they will stand late in prayer–and then get up early to pray again.
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This was only one reason of many given as to why he decided to convert.
 
Sister_Amy said:
Perhaps it was the fact that lay people in Islam–absolutely everyone MUST pray five times a day, at a MINIMUM. It isn’t just a goal for the scholars or clerics, but a minimum for every single person in Islam.

The really religious people pray much much more than that, regularly.

It’s common in the month of Ramadan for average people to spend hours (here it’s at least 3) in prayer during the night–so when a person spends the entire day thirsty and hungry, instead of taking the chance to eat and sleep and be lazy at night they will stand late in prayer–and then get up early to pray again.
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Many of us DO pray five times a day or more - reguarly - but it’s not because we have to but because we choose to. Between my daily Mass, daily Rosary, liturgy of the hours and Chaplet of Divine Mercy I would at least half the time.

If anyone asks, I’ll happily tell them that I do but I won’t make it a compulsory thing.
 
LilyM said:
Many of us DO pray five times a day or more - reguarly - …
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Many would be approximately what percentage of Catholics, say 25% or so? That would contrast with 99.7% of Muslims?
Anyway, this was only one of the reasons that the priest gave for converting to Islam.
 
bobzills said:
Many would be approximately what percentage of Catholics, say 25% or so? That would contrast with 99.7% of Muslims?
Anyway, this was only one of the reasons that the priest gave for converting to Islam.
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Morning prayer, evening prayer and grace before and after meals would do it - I think most of us manage at least that much or the equivalent.

And 99.7%? Puh-leeze, I know more than enough Muslims to know that, just like Catholics, the majority of them are fairly nominal. No way that many of them say ALL the daily prayers.
 
bobzills said:
Many would be approximately what percentage of Catholics, say 25% or so? That would contrast with 99.7% of Muslims?
Anyway, this was only one of the reasons that the priest gave for converting to Islam.
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Funny… if you live your life the right way, your whole day is a prayer. From personal experience, the Catholics I work with are constantly praying. I have emails from both my bosses referencing prayer and God… doesn’t everyone? On Holy days we even go to mass together and then go to lunch… and yes we pray before we eat.

And before you ask… no, I do not work for a church or religious organization.

Oh… one more point… Muslims are required… Catholics pray because they want to… which do you think is more commendable?
 
BlestOne said:
Funny… if you live your life the right way, your whole day is a prayer. From personal experience, the Catholics I work with are constantly praying. I have emails from both my bosses referencing prayer and God… doesn’t everyone? On Holy days we even go to mass together and then go to lunch… and yes we pray before we eat.

And before you ask… no, I do not work for a church or religious organization.

Oh… one more point… Muslims are required… Catholics pray because they want to… which do you think is more commendable?
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As you can see from the video, this was only one of the points that the priest mentioned as supporting his decision to convert to Islam.
 
bobzills said:
Many would be approximately what percentage of Catholics, say 25% or so? That would contrast with 99.7% of Muslims?
Anyway, this was only one of the reasons that the priest gave for converting to Islam.
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This statement deserves the following:

:rotfl:

come on sunny jim, i know quite a few muslims, and if they pray 5 times a day, im a monkey’s uncle!
 
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