Catholic/Protestant Worship Music

[hn160]

Hey hn, how do you think someone like Ricky Skaggs would do with, “Thy Strong Word”, or “Lord, Keep Us Steadfast”?

Jon

Maybe Ralph Stanley would do it better,too bad that he is Baptist.

 

[Larry1700]

I wouldn’t want it in meeting for worship either…it would disturb the profound Silence of Meeting and make it difficult to Hear.

Agreed. I love southern gospel, but I would not want it at Mass. I’m a convert, and I do admit I truly miss singing the hymns in church, but I love the traditional music (or silence–when you can get it) at Mass. There is just something ethereal about Gregorian Chant or the various “classical” music. You feel as if the angels are singing along.

 

[Publisher]

Maybe its our “always need to have noise around culture”. Silence forces people to look inwardly.
…you sure you’re not Catholic Pub?

Since I’ve never undergone a ritual washing…but received the One Baptism that truly changes and regenerates the Inner Man…I’m sure.

 

[4Squarebaby]

I just want to know what “anointed” music is? Who anoints the music, and how do you know its anointed?

How about Elvis Presley, “I believe” is it anointed?

Some of it is after concerts he was known to sing gospel. PBS even runs the Elvis Gospel special during their pledge breaks. You can add Johnny Cash, The Commodores, Blackstreet, Whitney Houston, Alison Krauss, Wynonna Judd, The Whispers, Sam Cooke… and many other mostly secular artist in multiple genres of music who continued to provide anointed music, singles and full albums, after they left the gospel and local church circuit in favor of the general audience as a career

 

[Mathias64]

I do not know how many of you have ever felt the presence of God in a room during worship, or devotion or adoration, or even during the mass, but I certainly have. The amazing feeling, that God is pleased and has taken over as the director is something that can never be forgotten. It is my belief that praise or worship that is offered up to him with sincereity of purpose is in a way just giving back to him what he has gifted to us - for His glory. A perfect example is the song Amazing Grace, My Chains are Gone. The Core song written so long ago is accepted by virtually every Christian denomination as a truly great song of thanks to God for his love. Chris Tomlin’s stroke of genius of adding a chorus made it an even stronger testimony to God’s love for us. IMHO. In Christ.

 

[davidn87]

^ What he said.

 

[jimmy]

Sam Cooke’s gospel music is great.

 

[Publisher]

Agreed. I love southern gospel, but I would not want it at Mass. I’m a convert, and I do admit I truly miss singing the hymns in church, but I love the traditional music (or silence–when you can get it) at Mass. There is just something ethereal about Gregorian Chant or the various “classical” music. You feel as if the angels are singing along.

LOL…why not Listen for the angels themselves Sing? In the Living Silence they can be Heard if one Listens.

 

[steido01]

Maybe Ralph Stanley would do it better,too bad that he is Baptist.

I’ll take the Soggy Bottom Boys.

 

[andrewstx]

To me a lot of the problem with non-Lutheran Protestant church music is the subjective and individualistic nature of most of it. The music is about ME, ME and Jesus and how good he makes ME feel.

Like the classic Evangelical ‘song’ In the Garden:

And he walks with ME
And he talks with ME
And he tells ME I am his own
And the joy WE share as WE tarry there, none other has ever known

Notice all the first person pronouns with the exception of WE. It is all about ME, ME, ME.

Even the language is different. Traditional Christians emphasise OUR Lord. While Evangelicals always say MY Lord, or the Lord, or he went to be with HIS Lord. Why must everything be individual and subjective?

 

[steido01]

To me a lot of the problem with non-Lutheran Protestant church music is the subjective and individualistic nature of most of it. The music is about ME, ME and Jesus and how good he makes ME feel.

Like the classic Evangelical ‘song’ In the Garden:

And he walks with ME
And he talks with ME
And he tells ME I am his own
And the joy WE share as WE tarry there, none other has ever known

Notice all the first person pronouns with the exception of WE. It is all about ME, ME, ME.

Even the language is different. Traditional Christians emphasise OUR Lord. While Evangelicals always say MY Lord, or the Lord, or he went to be with HIS Lord. Why must everything be individual and subjective?

Amen, amen, amen!

If a hymn must mention us sinful individuals at all, it should be clear as to what we are and how utterly dependent we are on Christ for our salvation:

Chief of sinners though I be,
Jesus shed His blood for me;
Died that I might live on high,
Lived that I might never die,
As the branch is to the vine,
I am His, and He is mine.

lutheran-hymnal.com/lyrics/tlh342.htm

The focus, still, is on Christ - not man.

 

[hn160]

This is the criteria for a Lutheran Hymn:

Criteria For Lutheran Hymns

1. A Lutheran hymn is congruent with Biblical doctrine.
2. A Lutheran hymn Sims Not to create the right atmosphere or mood for worship, but serves as a vehicle for the Spirit-filled Word of God.
3. A Lutheran hymn is Not entertainment but proclamation.
4. A Lutheran hymn is shaped by theology of the cross.
5. A Lutheran hymn is Not bound merely to paraphrase the Biblical Text; rather, it interprets the Scripture in reference to Christ.
6. A Lutheran hymn is bound to nö culture save the culture of the Church catholic.

 

[AbideWithMe]

To me a lot of the problem with non-Lutheran Protestant church music is the subjective and individualistic nature of most of it. The music is about ME, ME and Jesus and how good he makes ME feel.

Like the classic Evangelical ‘song’ In the Garden:

And he walks with ME
And he talks with ME
And he tells ME I am his own
And the joy WE share as WE tarry there, none other has ever known

Notice all the first person pronouns with the exception of WE. It is all about ME, ME, ME.

Even the language is different. Traditional Christians emphasise OUR Lord. While Evangelicals always say MY Lord, or the Lord, or he went to be with HIS Lord. Why must everything be individual and subjective?

Andrewstexas–“In the Garden” was written about Mary Magdelene’s encounter with the risen Christ, when she mistook Him for the gardener, until He spoke her name. The “me” in the hymn is Mary Magdalene. I’ll post more about it later, after dark.