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On one post I read that the CRS has accepted funding from the Bill Gates and Melinda Gates Foundation and also from the millionaire Jimmy Buffet. I would like to know where this information can be found. Both of these organizations fund abortion, so I would like to know the truth on this.

Yesterday, on EWTN’s show with Fr. Benedict Groeshel, a CEO Ken was on. I called in to ask this question but I wasn’t one of the people who got to ask this question.

I have also emailed them but have gotten no response. If anyone can answer me and tell me where they got this information, I’d appreciate it. I know they were in trouble a few years ago for giving condoms out, but as soon as this information surfaced they stopped. That
s why I’m a little hesitant to give to this organization although I do know they do very good work.
 
utah_rose said:
On one post I read that the CRS has accepted funding from the Bill Gates and Melinda Gates Foundation and also from the millionaire Jimmy Buffet. I would like to know where this information can be found. Both of these organizations fund abortion, so I would like to know the truth on this.
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I don’t know the answer to your question but why is this a problem?

As far as I know, neither contributor earned the money through any immoral means. The fact that they might also contribute to immoral causes doesn’t taint the money they contribute to moral causes such as CRS. In fact, the more money they give to the good guys means less money going to the other side. 🙂
 
Personally, I’d take their stinking money to be the one person or organization who would do God’s will with it.

I learned from the EWTN program, that the money CRS collects is spent through the request of the local bishops.

According to that program, CRS provides aid to people of all religions, based upon need.

gatesfoundation.org/press-releases/Pages/haiti-earthquake-statement-100114.aspx

“On January 14, the foundation provided a $1 million grant to Catholic Relief Services (CRS), which has experienced personnel and a stock of emergency supplies in Haiti. This grant will help cover CRS’s initial relief efforts, which include addressing the immediate shelter, food, water, sanitation, health and other needs of those affected by the quake. CRS will also continue on-the-ground assessment of the damage.”

"NAIROBI, Kenya – A $21.8 million grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is enabling Catholic Relief Services (CRS) and its partners to help small farmers in central and east Africa protect cassava—a critical source of food and income—from two spreading pandemics that are decimating as much as 70 percent of crop yields. "
 
Corki said:
I don’t know the answer to your question but why is this a problem?

As far as I know, neither contributor earned the money through any immoral means. The fact that they might also contribute to immoral causes doesn’t taint the money they contribute to moral causes such as CRS. In fact, the more money they give to the good guys means less money going to the other side. 🙂
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**Exactly!

If we only took donations from perfect people, we would have nothing to help those in need!

We must continue to witness to Jesus Christ & to try to convert those who would support Planned Parenthood by living a loving & passionate life that teaches them the Truth!

"But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him; for he that is not against you is for you.” (LK 9:50)**

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
Corki said:
I don’t know the answer to your question but why is this a problem?
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“Because if you take money and other goodies from demons, they always want something in return?”
On the (other) hand, the Gates Foundation gave CRS 2.9 million dollars in food grants in 2008 and a million for Haiti relief after the recent earthquake.
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What do they get for their money? Glowing articles on the CRS website:
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"Thanks to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, CRS will be able to ramp up our efforts to serve those suffering from the effects of the global food crisis in these three countries," said CRS President Ken Hackett. "Our partnership with the foundation will help us to meet the immediate needs of hungry families, while investing in greater agricultural production to provide more food in the future."
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You can find dozens of articles linked to the CRS website that glowingly refer to the projects and programs funded by the Gates and Buffett foundations. What you won’t find is any criticism of their efforts to kill off the children of the poor (or the middle class, or blacks, or Asians, etc.). In fact, I challenge you to do a search on the internet trying to find any criticism from the USCCB about the anti-life activities of these death peddlars. I couldn’t find anything. Not a single thing. Nada! Zero! Zilch! The silence speaks volumes.
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gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/2/19/4459848.html
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Sorry, but I happen to agree with the above. Their silence is a defacto consent to an anti-life agenda for which these organizations are widely-known.
 
Money given is nonrefundable and grants no person immunity from criticism. Gift horses, will into perpetuity, be given a dental exam by multiple practitioners 😃

We are members of a Church body and there’s no way to “silence” her.

The Church is not a private organization with a department of human resources where a supervisor will fire a believer for giving Gates and Buffet and piece of his/her mind.

If the Pro-Life side of the Church, wants to picket these organizations for their anti-life philanthropy, they are within their rights to do so.

Let the beatings begin. En masse!
 
Barbkw said:
If the Pro-Life side of the Church, wants to picket these organizations for their anti-life philanthropy, they are within their rights to do so.
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I can’t help but feel the Church is being hypocritical in accepting these donations. How in good conscience may our bishops do so when the very mission of the Church is to be the guiding light toward salvation and a clear moral voice? Makes no sense to me.
 
I feel like there is a difference between accepting money from someone who gained it immorally, which you should not do, and accepting money from someone who also donates to immoral things, which I think is acceptable. In the first case I think it would be immoral to take money that you know comes from a drug dealer for instance, or a hitman. In the second case I don’t think it is necessary for a charity to make sure that every single person who donates too it leads a moral life, so long as you do not allow them to influence you to do anything immoral. If Mr. Gates as a condition of the donation demands that CRS give out condoms, then they should refuse the money.
 
I feel the point has been totally obscured that the laudable words on the CRS website praising these promoters of death is lending an aura of moral acceptability for their agenda. Since no criticism has been mentioned and nothing qualified , that “work” is all inclusive, even that which is diametrically opposed to all the Catholic Church stands for. In the words of CRS themselves, they have formed a partnership. That alone should raise eyebrows as this constitutes an association of like-minded goals and objectives. What is wrong with this picture?

We will never give another dime to CRS, nor to the CCHD, but rather search out organizations which do not compromise their values in order to raise the level of contributions and we will further continue to prayerfully discern that which is good and true.
 
Well, this is curious. It is OK for the Bishops to support universal health care where the government takes money by force from everyone who has “too much” whether they are sinners or not, but it is NOT ok to take money from someone who willing to make a contribution for charity sake because someone has judged them to be a sinner.
I’m sorry, I just don’t understand.
 
Tigg said:
I feel the point has been totally obscured that the laudable words on the CRS website praising these promoters of death is lending an aura of moral acceptability for their agenda. Since no criticism has been mentioned and nothing qualified , that “work” is all inclusive, even that which is diametrically opposed to all the Catholic Church stands for. In the words of CRS themselves, they have formed a partnership. That alone should raise eyebrows as this constitutes an association of like-minded goals and objectives. What is wrong with this picture?

We will never give another dime to CRS, nor to the CCHD, but rather search out organizations which do not compromise their values in order to raise the level of contributions and we will further continue to prayerfully discern that which is good and true.
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I agree. Lets start with the federal government.
 
Saturday’s reading is from the Gospel according to Luke 16:9-15

Which 😃 may or may not add to or help this conversation.

"Jesus said to his disciples: "I tell you, make friends for yourselves with dishonest wealth, so that when it fails, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings. The person who is trustworthy in very small matters is also trustworthy in great ones; and the person who is dishonest in very small matters is also dishonest in great ones.

If, therefore, you are not trustworthy with dishonest wealth, who will trust you with true wealth? If you are not trustworthy with what belongs to another, who will give you what is yours?

No servant can serve two masters. He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other.

You cannot serve God and mammon."
 
Tigg said:
I feel the point has been totally obscured that the laudable words on the CRS website praising these promoters of death is lending an aura of moral acceptability for their agenda. Since no criticism has been mentioned and nothing qualified , that “work” is all inclusive, even that which is diametrically opposed to all the Catholic Church stands for. In the words of CRS themselves, they have formed a partnership. That alone should raise eyebrows as this constitutes an association of like-minded goals and objectives. What is wrong with this picture?

We will never give another dime to CRS, nor to the CCHD, but rather search out organizations which do not compromise their values in order to raise the level of contributions and we will further continue to prayerfully discern that which is good and true.
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I agree. I did get an email back in which they said that not all organizations that gave money to them “think” the same way Catholics do.

Granted, they do do a lot of good work overseas, I would rather give my money to a truly Catholic organization or mission that helps the poor that give it to an organization that accepted money from this source and others. If they truly want to be a “Catholic” organization, perhaps they should have said “no thanks” and went to the people instead asking them for money and explaining their mission should include no money from foundations unless they adhere to Catholic principles.
 
utah_rose said:
I agree. I did get an email back in which they said that not all organizations that gave money to them “think” the same way Catholics do.

Granted, they do do a lot of good work overseas, I would rather give my money to a truly Catholic organization or mission that helps the poor that give it to an organization that accepted money from this source and others. If they truly want to be a “Catholic” organization, perhaps they should have said “no thanks” and went to the people instead asking them for money and explaining their mission should include no money from foundations unless they adhere to Catholic principles.
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🙂 Well, you got a better explanation than I did. I too, e-mailed them a couple of years ago and when I asked them point blank - what’s up??? their spokesperson denied any connection to groups antithetical to church teaching… and there you have it!
 
markbrumbaugh said:
Jimmy or Warren Buffet?
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That would be Warren - the same Warren who gave contributions to Bill Gates via stock options in his company. You know - the same Bill Gates who has given so much money to Planned Parenthood I doubt it can any longer be accurately counted, and who has spoken openly of eugenics and a global reduction of the population.
 
utah_rose said:
On one post I read that the CRS has accepted funding from the Bill Gates and Melinda Gates Foundation and also from the millionaire Jimmy Buffet. I would like to know where this information can be found. Both of these organizations fund abortion, so I would like to know the truth on this.

Yesterday, on EWTN’s show with Fr. Benedict Groeshel, a CEO Ken was on. I called in to ask this question but I wasn’t one of the people who got to ask this question.

I have also emailed them but have gotten no response. If anyone can answer me and tell me where they got this information, I’d appreciate it. I know they were in trouble a few years ago for giving condoms out, but as soon as this information surfaced they stopped. That
s why I’m a little hesitant to give to this organization although I do know they do very good work.
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Another good organization is Cross International Catholic Outreach and their web address is www.crosscatholic.org.
 
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