Catholic-safe yoga practices?

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PRmerger said:
Ah. I see what’s going on now. You’re thinking that there’s some sort of connection with yoga/mindfulness/prayer.

There need not be.

One can certainly practice yoga, with mindfulness, without intending to pray.

Or, one can certainly practice yoga, with mindfulness, while praying…if one prays to Hindu deities, this is wrong. If one prays to God, then this is commendable.
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google.co.uk/search?client=opera&q=definition+of+Yoga&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

'yoga
ˈjəʊɡə/Submit
noun

a Hindu spiritual and ascetic discipline, a part of which, including breath control, simple meditation, and the adoption of specific bodily postures, is widely practised for health and relaxation.

“yoga classes”’
 
phil19034 said:
BESIDES, religious Hindus often feel that yoga classes at the local guy are a type of cultural approbation, which many people on the left feel is wrong today. So why do it?
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Because there’s nothing wrong with yoga.

Only superstitious people (which is contrary to Catholicism) are scared of it.

As far as cultural approbation and the left–do you mean cultural appropriation? If so, I don’t know what the left says about it, but I personally don’t see anything wrong with adopting some aspects of another culture. 🤷
 
friardchips said:
The context of Yoga stretches, yes. It is about taking away the context of the stretches so that one can stretch without conforming to any routine outside of the Christian context i.e:- a Christian can’t be a Hindu and a Christian but a Hindu can be a Hindu and a Christian.
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So then how about taking the yoga stretches out of the Hindu context as most Christian who practice yoga might do?
 
phil19034 said:
Here is just a small example of what Pope Francis said about Yoga: catholic.org/news/health/story.php?id=59107
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Oh, now, wait a minute.

If you think someone is arguing here that yoga is a path to God, then I’m certainly on your side (and Pope Francis’) and will firmly assert:

[SIGN1]NO ONE SHOULD BE DOING YOGA AS A PATH TOWARDS GOD[/SIGN1]

But yoga as a form of exercise and relaxation?

Nothing wrong with that.

It’s just plain superstition to think that holding one’s hand in a particular position can invite an evil spirit in…or is in some way worshipping inadvertently a deity.

Only fundamentalists think that someone can worship something without intending to worship. (See fundamentalist attacks on Catholics praying to saints. “You’re worshipping a creature even if you don’t know you’re worshipping it!”)
 
friardchips said:
Thank you Team A member!

One such exercise, coming under normal exercise, is most similar to the ‘Vertical Leg Crunch’.

As well as no doubt having all the holistic benefits which you have listed, it also works your stomach, which is good, if you ever want to do running, because a stronger stomach helps overall athletic movement.

skimble.com/exercises/814-vertical-leg-crunches-how-to-do-exercise

skimble.com/tracked_workouts/20384241

The second URL links to a position in which one can bend the legs further back and possibly lift higher depending on one’s flexibility.

What say thee?!
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I say you are doing yoga and just calling it something else.
 
PRmerger said:
Oh, now, wait a minute.

If you think someone is arguing here that yoga is a path to God, then I’m certainly on your side (and Pope Francis’) and will firmly assert:

[SIGN1]NO ONE SHOULD BE DOING YOGA AS A PATH TOWARDS GOD[/SIGN1]

But yoga as a form of exercise and relaxation?

Nothing wrong with that.
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The point is, Yoga cannot be stripped of its spiritual emphasis, unless, the exercises are completely separated from what is known as ‘Yoga’. And if people go to a Yoga website then this is purposefully heading in the direction of Yoga, not detaching from it.
It’s just plain superstition to think that holding one’s hand in a particular position can invite an evil spirit in…or is in some way worshipping inadvertently a deity.
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It is negligent to offer the opposite view when you are dealing with unknowns.
 
friardchips said:
Type something similar to this into your browser: ‘pope say that one cannot seek spiritual answers in yoga’.
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I think all of your objections stem from something most yoga-supporters here haven’t even been arguing.

No one should be seeking spiritual answers in yoga.

Everyone can be seeking physical strength and relaxation in yoga.

Stop thinking that people are supporting yoga because they think it’s making them closer to God.

If someone argues for that, then I’ll be right there with you arguing that they should stop doing yoga immediately.
 
friardchips said:
The point is, Yoga cannot be stripped of its spiritual emphasis, unless, the exercises are completely separated from what is known as ‘Yoga’.
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Sure it can.

And one can certainly use Christian spirituality, meditating on Christ, while doing yoga.
 
friardchips said:
It is negligent to offer the opposite view when you are dealing with unknowns.
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Then I suggest you be scared of everything, friar, because, you know, satan can be lurking in all sorts of things…you’re “dealing with unknowns” after all.

The Terrifying Dangers of Whatever should keep you fearful of all things, friar.
 
PRmerger said:
Then I suggest you be scared of everything, friar, because, you know, satan can be lurking in all sorts of things…you’re “dealing with unknowns” after all.

The Terrifying Dangers of Whatever should keep you fearful of all things, friar.
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friard.

So, walking in front of a moving car is worth checking out, then (by that reasoning)?
 
friardchips said:
It is negligent to offer the opposite view when you are dealing with unknowns.
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So let’s say someone told you that they had read somewhere that listening to the Beatles music is satanic, you respond with “That’s absurd!”…and they say, “You are dealing with unknowns here, so you’d best not be engaging in that activity”…what would your response be?
*NB: the “listening to Beatles music” is a cipher. There is no need to respond with your position on pop music. Fill in the blank with any normal activity that you engage in and see nothing wrong with…like putting on your left shoe before you put on your right shoe, or brushing your teeth in the shower, or putting your seatbelt on before you put the keys in the car…
 
friardchips said:
friard.

So, walking in front of a moving car is worth checking out, then (by that reasoning)?
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I’ve been told that using the internet is satanic. Using your reasoning, since we’re “dealing with unknowns”, you should run as far away from the web as you can.

Right?

Are you going to do this, since we’re dealing with unknowns here?
 
PRmerger said:
So let’s say someone told you that they had read somewhere that listening to the Beatles music is satanic, you respond with “That’s absurd!”…and they say, “You are dealing with unknowns here, so you’d best not be engaging in that activity”…what would your response be?
*NB: the “listening to Beatles music” is a cipher. There is no need to respond with your position on pop music. Fill in the blank with any normal activity that you engage in and see nothing wrong with…like putting on your left shoe before you put on your right shoe, or brushing your teeth in the shower, or putting your seatbelt on before you put the keys in the car…
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If one brushes their teeth in the shower, then they may have a problem of some kind, although I doubt it would be of spiritual origin.

There is indeed, for reasons of safety, an order for one to carry out obligatory tasks when in a vehicle, but not necessarily in that order.

Beatles music is not necessarily evil in itself although the music does contain references to some less-than-healthy parts of an abusive lifestyle.

Again, as as with everything, context is very important.
 
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