Catholic school supporting student's choice to become transgender

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How on earth did you manage to link transgenderism to same-sex marraige? Do you think homosexuals are transgender?
 
Salibi said:
How on earth did you manage to link transgenderism to same-sex marraige? Do you think homosexuals are transgender?
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This is a tricky question. Because what gender are they? How would you determine gender to know if its heterosexual or homosexual?
 
Dlee said:
our job is to be charitable and pray
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But this is exactly the question: What is the charitable action in this case? The poster to whom you responded was speaking to what is charitable and you answered that our job is to be charitable. Yes, the poster you replied to agrees.

But like others here, I don’t feel it’s ‘charitable’ to encourage and accommodate a child’s confusion or desire to follow a path that will almost certainly lead to unhappiness down the road. To compliment a boy’s nail polish and make up is to accommodate, encourage, and enable him on this path toward greater unhappiness. I believe it’s more charitable to say, “There’s a cliff ahead! Stop running toward it!” than to say, “If running that direction makes you happy, go!”

But we’re now living in a society where we are at the very least called a host of -isms and -obes if we speak the truth or try to actually help a person with gender dysphoria.
 
tafan2 said:
have a sister, who as a child was the ultimate tom boy. She had interests in everything her brothers did. She was much more happy driving tractor on the farm or playing sports with her brothers. Who knows how little it would have taken from society or others for her, at an immature age, to decide she was really a boy? Thankfully, that did not exist back then. She is happy married with several kids. I can help but wonder if this is the scenario with lots of “transgender” kids. I said it above, is there really a feeling of being a boy or a girl? I doubt it.
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What I find so funny about this is that in the 70s we were being told that boys can play with dolls and girls can love driving tractors (for example) and now we’re being told the exact opposite–what, Tom loves playing with dolls? He must be transgender–he’s really a girl! What, Ann loves driving tractors? She must really be a boy!

It’s nonsensical and at the very least, the complete change in attitude from whatever powers that be tell us this stuff ought to make people stop and think. Why are we suddenly being told that liking nail polish now DOES mean you’re a girl when before we were told it’s all just stereotypes and boys can like nail polish too???
 
So is this priest justified to require children to call a girl a boy? It’s a positive action and control enforcement. As a parent, I would have a sit down with my child and this priest.
 
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do_justly_love_mercy said:
Sorry, but what does the “F” in “FGBTQ” stand for? I am only familiar with LGBTQ. I assume it has something to do with the manufactured idea that there is a “homosexual agenda”.
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It’s a typo…

A Homosexual Agenda aka Sodomic Filth exists amongst some clergy
who dare to present themselves as Obedient to Catholicism Catholics -
They are Not! SHAME on Them!

To the pitiful chagrin of those involved in that Abomination,
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI - confirmed this Known-For-Decades Factoid…

LOOK UP - Full text of Pope Benedict XVI Essay: 'The Church and the scandal of sexual abuse’

ABRIDGED -

(1) The long-prepared and ongoing process of dissolution of the Christian concept of morality was, as I have tried to show, marked by an unprecedented radicalism in the 1960s. This dissolution of the moral teaching authority of the Church necessarily had to have an effect on the diverse areas of the Church. In the context of the meeting of the presidents of the episcopal conferences from all over the world with Pope Francis, the question of priestly life, as well as that of seminaries, is of particular interest. As regards the problem of preparation for priestly ministry in seminaries, there is in fact a far-reaching breakdown of the previous form of this preparation.

In various seminaries homosexual cliques were established, which acted more or less openly and significantly changed the climate in the seminaries. In one seminary in southern Germany, candidates for the priesthood and candidates for the lay ministry of the pastoral specialist [ Pastoralreferent ] lived together. At the common meals, seminarians and pastoral specialists ate together, the married among the laymen sometimes accompanied by their wives and children, and on occasion by their girlfriends. The climate in this seminary could not provide support for preparation to the priestly vocation. The Holy See knew of such problems, without being informed precisely. As a first step, an Apostolic Visitation was arranged of seminaries in the United States.

There were — not only in the United States of America — individual bishops who rejected the Catholic tradition as a whole and sought to bring about a kind of new, modern “Catholicity” in their dioceses. Perhaps it is worth mentioning that in not a few seminaries, students caught reading my books were considered unsuitable for the priesthood. My books were hidden away, like bad literature, and only read under the desk.

The Visitation that now took place brought no new insights, apparently because various powers had joined forces to conceal the true situation. A second Visitation was ordered and brought considerably more insights, but on the whole failed to achieve any outcomes. Nonetheless, since the 1970s the situation in seminaries has generally improved. And yet, only isolated cases of a new strengthening of priestly vocations came about as the overall situation had taken a different turn.
 
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My child and I would meet this priest, and I would need him to express to my child that he was not justified to require my child to assign a person a different biological gender in that manner.

If he didnt, I would tell him we are leaving the School until he does.
 
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I’ve been reading about a lot of these schools. Turns out they’re Catholic in name only and usually have a handful of liberal school administrators pitching the nonsense.

I bet you a steak dinner that the parents of the child don’t even attend Mass and if confronted they will claim that you can just ignore Christ’s teachings to fit their lifestyle.
 
I’d rather offer a steak dinner to the transgender student and her family for a friendly fellowship and the opportunity to express my friendship with them, and what I was compelled to do in good faith.
 
And when you do, I highly doubt a pre-meal blessing would be given. If you think God’s ways can be trumped on the whims of man; then mate you’ve got issues.
 
To be very honest, I do not care to slough through 300 + posts to count the number of “transitioning is a sin” comments.

Edit to add. The Catechism says:

It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained.

If the psychological genesis remains largely unexplained for homosexuality, how much more unexplained is the mystery of gender dysphoria.

One possible genesis is people simply decide they want attention. I’d imagine that some of the contributors here hold that view.

It is also possible that this is a sort of medical condition from embryonic development. That makes gender dysphoria a medical condition, the symptoms of which abate when the person is permitted to change their name and make cosmetic changes, clothes, etc.

Should the scientific community discover this stems from embryonic development, that it is a medical condition, and the treatment is name change and cosmetic changes, will it still be of the devil and sinful or will we see the revulsion in the way we have now for the experts in the 1940s who gave lobotomies to treat autism.

Until we know the genesis, let’s come down on the side of compassion.

And yes, when my husband had dementia in order to help him recover I went along with the idea of kittens all over the ICU floor. I also will feed my niece’s stuffed bear part of my pizza, because I don’t consider it a virtue to make kids cry.
 
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I highly doubt the Church is uncertain about the morality of reassigning genders to people.
 
If hes saying you must acknowledge this as truth, or else be punished, and is forcing boys into a situation where they must get naked in front of a girl or else be penalized, I don’t see how you can look at that and say “yeah that’s totally fine.” It’s messed up on multiple levels, even if it wasn’t happening at a nominally Catholic school, which parents pay extra to make sure their kids get a specific type of education.
 
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They already asserted a requirement. The threat is implied since they are the authorities
 
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That kind of thing should be seen as objectively evil even from a totally secular position.

People will object to the Bible being taught in schools, even as the most influential piece of literature ever created, and then they see no problem forcing their unscientific, irrational beliefs down everyone’s throat. It’s really disgraceful stuff like this is allowed to happen.
 
For people like yourself, I would require a written statement of his recourse to justice.
 
“People like yourself” would be those who say it’s just my opinion.

If I didnt get the letter of recourse, my child would be removed from the school.
 
Of course.

So would be notifying the Bishop of why I removed my child.
 
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