Yes but more women caught in this situation are likely to compound the problem with abortion if they are ostrisized! As Christians we should strive to rehabilitate sinners back into the community, you can’t do that if you kick them out.But why stop there? For those of you who think expulsion or forced home schooling is an appropriate response, should a pregnant girl also be kicked out of mass and any bible study she is in so as not to scandalise her peers in thoses places as well?
Like you, I am speaking to forcing them out systematically. I think others, such as Kay Cee, are simply stating that this option is not necessarily a bad thing.
I’m not concerned about scandalizing her peers. I’m concerned about protecting the girl in question.
Why not let her and her parents make the decision of wether she is home schooled. At the least this will take away a bit of the stigma, she will be leaving of her own will if she chooses, not forced out like some discarded leper.
Another major issue with having it mandatory and systematic that they be expelled, is it thwarts the whole concept of reconciliation in addition to teaching the child that when they get into trouble, they are on their own.
I think it’s a good idea in some cases as well, especially if she has a problem with sickness or with getting around.
I say “in some cases” because not all families have the resources (financial and capability-wise) to do it well. One project I’m planning to resume next week, however may change that.Self-serving ad: I plan to provide education in at least math, for free, on the web, in such a way as to directly compete with what is done for gazillions of tax dollars now. I have already conducted several thousand trial runs of some simple math software in All Saints School on grades 2-5, and my own children have benefitted, so if I give up right now it has been productive. My ultimate goal is to go from counting to Algebra, and the best case is to undermine the economics of math education in the country to force “real” reform. I figure if I can give them for free a product at least as effective for average students than what they get in school, maybe the schools will start figuring out how to embrace technology rather than use it as an excuse to raise spending. (note: if others are interested and able, I can work with them to expand this to other topics.) Part of what I’m doing is trying to empower home-schoolers and supplement kids in school who need extra help.
We home-schooled three of our children a couple years ago, and it was really nice – for several reasons we ended up putting them back though.
For individual children, I agree home schooling could be a good solution. I still don’t think the school’s policy is one that promote pro-life behavior. I doubt such public shows of discipline against pregnant girls does anything to promote chastity – if so, only in a very small way compared to its promoting birth control and abortion.
Alan
Good points all around but I think that we here are also forgetting about a particular sin that is not being addressed and I think is why a catholic school would not allow a pregnat girl to continue at the institution. I think that apart from any emotional issue it school could be trying to avoid the sin of scandel which unfortunatelly an un-wed pregnant mother is an occasion of scandel. I am not saying that it is necessarily correct (see my previous posts) however I don’t think that we are considering all of the moral factors that must be weighed.
It depends on what is meant by scandel. Scandel is only wrong I believe if it is done in such a way as to be welcoming of sin. Some cases like having a teacher at a Catholic School who volunteers as an abortion escort would fall under this type of scandel because it sends a message of toleration for and acceptance of evil. However when a sinner is repentant and they are welcomed back into the community there is no sinful scandel. We should not “conform to the world” and its definitions of scandel. Jesus ate with tax collectors and sinners even though it caused a huge scandel amongst the Jews. Based on His example I think that demonstrating compassion and acceptance for repentant sinners is not sinful and instead sets a good example for the world. To do opposite is Pharisaic and I would argue sinful. Jesus does not have a one strike and your out policy, even the most overly literal among us would agree you get at least 7x70 chances
Exactly what PP wants us to think, and exactly opposite the truth! You’ve been duped! :yup:
Good ol’ scandal. I knew this was coming.
Well, I do not know why we do not have an elevator except to say that my school probably has not yet had a handicapped student who has requested one (for example, a student in a wheel chair). We do have at least one girl who has a walking impediment of some kind (she can walk, but slowly and with some difficulty)… but she is able to take stairs. My school has less than 400 students, so it is not necessarily the microcosm of society at large (so much % is handicapped, etc.). The school where I teach is not rich, and building additions are made when they are deemed necessary and not before (do you know how much an elevator costs?). (I was at a seminary once where they had to install a lift for a wheel chair for a seminarian who became handicapped… obviously, they would not install such a thing until it was deemed necessary).
No?
Shoot!
