Catholic Stereotypes

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Petergee said:
Yes SOME Catholics take one or more of these views. But ALL of these views are definitely far MORE common among NON Catholics than among Catholics. They are also more common among non-Christians than among Christians.
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That’s no excuse to keep the likes of them representing what the rest of us believe. They need to be set straight. Here. Now.

I’m with Grace. These stereotypes wouldn’t exist had we gone on to take them out at the source.
SGTTOM said:
Some guy I was talking too made an example by saying the bible says Jesus changed water into wine and that is physically impossible. That has got to be the silliest example, I mean really are people that closed minded? I mean I thought it was obvious that if you choose to believe in God you must believe in more then the science that men can study.
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Actually, if you compare. God incarnate turning water into wine sounds pretty consistent. On the other hand, you never see Jesus going Ten Plagues on Pagan Rome.
 
Here’s one that I keep hearing from some of my fellow countrymen:
Filipino Catholics are not loyal Filipinos.
 
Crescentinus said:
Here’s one that I keep hearing from some of my fellow countrymen:
Filipino Catholics are not loyal Filipinos.
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I never heard this before. Care to explain? I live in the States so I’m ignorant about this type of foolery.
 
Midwest88 said:
I never heard this before. Care to explain? I live in the States so I’m ignorant about this type of foolery.
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I think the same type of anti-Catholic prejudice regarding nationalism was also the case in the United States, especially with the Ku Klux Klan.
According to the anti-Catholic excuses for Filipino nationalists, they view Catholicism as Spanish rather than Catholic since Spanish missionaries had brought Catholicism to the Filipino people.
 
Crescentinus said:
According to the anti-Catholic excuses for Filipino nationalists, they view Catholicism as Spanish rather than Catholic since Spanish missionaries had brought Catholicism to the Filipino people.
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I blame the Spanish more though. They were the worst witnesses to the faith during their rule here. Rizal and Bonifacio would’ve seen the Church in a better light if it weren’t for those imperialistic racists in friar’s clothing.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
I blame the Spanish more though. They were the worst witnesses to the faith during their rule here. Rizal and Bonifacio would’ve seen the Church in a better light if it weren’t for those imperialistic racists in friar’s clothing.
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Exactly. There were Spanish clergy who tried to stop the excesses of the colonial administrators.
The problem with the anti-Catholic school of Filipino nationalism is that it uses guilt by association without even trying to appeal to reason. But, it can be easily defeated by showing them the contributions of Catholicism to the country’s history, culture, medicine, sciences, education, legal system among many others. 🙂
I am a Catholic and a loyal son of the Republic of the Philippines at the same time.
 
Crescentinus said:
Exactly. There were Spanish clergy who tried to stop the excesses of the colonial administrators.
The problem with the anti-Catholic school of Filipino nationalism is that it uses guilt by association without even trying to appeal to reason. But, it can be easily defeated by showing them the contributions of Catholicism to the country’s history, culture, medicine, sciences, education, legal system among many others. 🙂
I am a Catholic and a loyal son of the Republic of the Philippines at the same time.
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So am I. But alas, I’m of the belief that most of the ruling Spanish were indeed so corrupt and Euro-centric that it’s not surprising that guilt by association is almost a natural reaction.

Heck, they’re the reason why we are still struggling to uncover what our culture was like before they came and made a mess of things. I said this once and I’ll say it again.

Spain, I thank you for bringing the Faith to my country.

I curse you for everything else.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
So am I. But alas, I’m of the belief that most of the ruling Spanish were indeed so corrupt and Euro-centric that it’s not surprising that guilt by association is almost a natural reaction.

Heck, they’re the reason why we are still struggling to uncover what our culture was like before they came and made a mess of things. I said this once and I’ll say it again.

Spain, I thank you for bringing the Faith to my country.

I curse you for everything else.
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I look at things more objectively, hence guilt by association has no effect on me nor do I use that.
 
lareinatortura said:
That’s an interesting one, Norseman82.

If you feel this is a stupid question, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to trouble you with basics, but I am still learning.

Isn’t an annulment basically something that says the marriage never existed?
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No. that is not correct!!! Check out the catechism!
 
MercyMia said:
That we are oppressed and hate science
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Which I find quite funny given the Papal endorsement of the theory of evolution and other scientific theories, along with the encouragement of using technology including the internet, Twitter and social networking for both evangelism and faith support.

If I remember rightly, the Catholic church was the first major religious body to publicly endorse the theory of evolution, alongside Orthodoxy.
 
May I say some of the most offensive and idiotic stuff said about us by fundamentalists, Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses for this thread? O:
 
DeSanto said:
No. that is not correct!!! Check out the catechism!
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I can’t readily find what is quoted from Norseman, but a decree of nullity is indeed a statement that the marriage was null from the very beginning. It is saying that the bond never existed, rather than saying that the Church could break something that was there.

There are dozens of threads you can read with lots of details. Just search for annulment 🙂
 
Kouyate42 said:
Which I find quite funny given the Papal endorsement of the theory of evolution and other scientific theories, along with the encouragement of using technology including the internet, Twitter and social networking for both evangelism and faith support.

If I remember rightly, the Catholic church was the first major religious body to publicly endorse the theory of evolution, alongside Orthodoxy.
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Yes people seem to ignore that the Church doesn’t take a position on evolution being right or wrong.

None the less just because one doesn’t believe in evolution doesn’t mean they ignore science. Many people like to treat evolution as a scientific fact.
EvelynEVF said:
I can’t readily find what is quoted from Norseman, but a decree of nullity is indeed a statement that the marriage was null from the very beginning. It is saying that the bond never existed, rather than saying that the Church could break something that was there.

There are dozens of threads you can read with lots of details. Just search for annulment 🙂
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Yes I agree. A marriage cannot be broken. An annulment is just the realization that the couple was never really married in the first place.
 
Catholic stereotypes?

I’m going to shut up.

I already have two infractions. 😃
 
The statement that “Pope Pius XII was anti-Semitic” drives me “up the wall.” More recent schollarly sources suggest that Pope Pius, as well as many of his priests, monks and nuns, helped to save at least 800,000 Jewish lives by hiding Jewish refugees in the papal appartments as well as in various convents and monasteries.

Ask yourself this: if Pius XII did so little to help the Jewish people, then why was he declared “righteous among the nations” by Juruselum’s Chief Rabbi following the war? Whenever I hear someone “running their mouth”:mad: about Pius XII, I direct them to a book entitled “the Myth of Hitler’s Pope.” Incidentally, I noticed just a little while ago that another book has come out entittled “The Pope’s Jews” which, I think, deals with the same topic, and which is on my reading list. Happy new year everyone! :blessyou:
 
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