Catholic students at public school called out

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Racist against white people???
Aren’t there also Catholics who are not just white or Latino?? Believe it or not, white citizens of the USA certainly are not discriminated against.
For the sake of being white, most likely not (although one could argue reverse discrimination). However, there are people who are discriminated against who are white, although that is not the basis of the discrimination (i.e. religion, finances, education).
 
In the first place, wearing a rosary like cheap costume jewelry is highly disrespectful. (Thanks Madonna…:mad:)

All schools should ban the wearing of rosaries…and that applies to Catholics and non-catholics.

Catholic students should be encouraged by their parish to carry their rosary and PRAY it during lunch or break. Muslim students are allowed their prayer time…why not Catholics?

Actually this sounds more like a gang problem than a religious one. Hispanic gang members wearing rosaries…why are gang members even allowed to be at the school?
 
Couple small notes.
(1) The gang that caused the most problems at my high school was white - a group called The Hammers, neo-nazi thugs who liked to pick on blacks. One got jumped by a group of SHARPS (skinheads against racial prejudice) and took a pretty good beating. My school banned Doc Martins (favored by both gangs) and bomber jackets until one of the girls (not a skinhead) objected and her parents threatened to sue.

(2) For some reason, a number of evangelicals around here wear Rosaries - either as a necklace, or a pocket Rosary (single decade of beads) around the wrist like a bracelet. But this is the workforce, I don’t know if they wear them in school.
 
I disagree. Most schools ban hats, beanies, or other items on one’s head, but religious exemptions are made, such as for yarmulkes. If the student demonstrated that the item was used for expressly religious purposes, I believe an exemption would apply.
I don’t think that they could outright ban rosaries. Obviously, a rosary in your pocket is not a gang symbol. But I do believe that they could ban them as visible jewelry if and only if.they could demonstrate that they have had a real problem with kids wearing rosaries and committing gang violence. However, the argument either way is nuanced and hypothetical.
 
I know the disposition of those who wear a rosary **like cheap costume jewelry
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So because you claim to know their disposition, you would ban the wearing of all rosaries in all schools.

Guess nuns that teach in Catholic schools should take theirs off too. :rolleyes:

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Any word on the validity of the story??
 
Yet another blanket answer to a problem, rather than addressing those who are the real problem. If any group is using any article to identify themselves as a “gang member” I can see the school wanting to ban that article, but that is the wrong approach. And when you have to “punish or restrict” everyone you are really failing to address the real issue which is the need to restrict those who are guilty of the offense or violence.

Then to require anyone to identify themselves as Catholic to accomplish this violates the constitutional freedom of religion we are to have in this country, which does mean that students can receive Communion without fear of prosecution or punishment. Policies like this simply demonstrate how ignorant a lot of our educational leaders and boards really are.

In my day those who were violent and causing trouble got kicked out of school. They were not allowed to return until the next year, if ever. It was up to their parents to secure their further education. This is what we need to do again. I am tired of seeing whole schools disciplines and restricted for a handful of trouble makers and (yes I am going to say it) bullies and idiots.
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So because you claim to know their disposition, you would ban the wearing of all rosaries in all schools.

Guess nuns that teach in Catholic schools should take theirs off too. :rolleyes:
I didn’t say that.

I said that I KNOW THE DISPOSITION off those who wear a rosary like cheap costume jewelry

I don’t consider Sister Mary Francis to be wearing CHEAP COSTUME JEWELRY. Nor would I compare her to the likes of Madonna.

By the way are there any nuns who teach in Catholic schools still in habits???
 
I thought we as catholics were to bring peace on earth to others. Why all the fuss?

It isn’t that important. If we need to say the rosary then we can use our fingers as beads.

And as far as wine, the body of Christ is sufficient to receive him wholly.

As far as I can tell, they aren’t asking us for our money…now that is important. :bigyikes:
 
I have not been able to independently confirm this, but this past weekend our priest told us about this in his homily…]
Ironically, this took place at “Freedom Middle School.” :rolleyes:
I don’t think this really happened. There doesn’t seem to be any information on it. Perhaps it’s a variation of what happened in a Texas school in which rosaries were prohibited because of some alleged association with gangs.

See Brownsville Independent School District’s policy against displaying rosaries and crosses.
It seems that at a recent student assembly at one of the local public schools, the school’s security officer asked all the Catholic students to raise their hand; most of them did. :confused:
Asking a student to publicly identify his/her religious affiliation may be a violation. But the accounts I can find of this school’s policy don’t have any assembly mentioned. So I think we can ignore this for now.
In front of the rest of the student body, the Catholic students were told that if any student is caught with a rosary in their possession, it would be confiscated and the student would face disciplinary action.
The ACLU looked into the incident that I referenced above feeling that it was a potential violation of religious rights. While they felt the school had a right to change policy to protect the students there was no evidence presented that showed that prohibiting the rosary would prevent gang activity or protect the students. See this.
Further, this did not just apply to Hispanic students displaying a rosary, but also applied to non-Hispanic students who might carry a rosary in their pocket or purse. So in theory, a white, honor student could be busted for belonging to a gang. :mad:
Applying restrictions on the basis of ethnicity/race could constitute a violation of the civil rights act of 1964. It’s one of the protected classes. There’s a legal professional on this site (I think her name may be Mary1975 or something like it) that could probably illuminate protected classes more.
Further, and this is the real shocker, the Catholic students were told that if they received the Eucharist in the form of the blood of Christ (i.e., wine) they would be in violation of the school’s zero-tolerance policy against alcohol. :eek:
Also doesn’t seem to be part of any reported incident that I can find.

Question: why would students be carrying Communion wine around at a public school?
 
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Question: why would students be carrying Communion wine around at a public school?
I’m guessing the rule was referring to drinking communion wine, not to having it. In other words, one wouldn’t be allowed to go to morning mass and drink the communion wine before coming to school, or they’d consider you inebriated.

I’m gonna say that I find the very idea of banning a type of jewelry or something perfectly legal because it happens to be used as a gang sign is ludicrous and should not be tolerated in a free society. We may as well ban wearing red or blue because of the bloods and crips.
 
I have not been able to independently confirm this, but this past weekend our priest told us about this in his homily.

It seems that at a recent student assembly at one of the local public schools, the school’s security officer asked all the Catholic students to raise their hand; most of them did. :confused:

In front of the rest of the student body, the Catholic students were told that if any student is caught with a rosary in their possession, it would be confiscated and the student would face disciplinary action. Why? Because some of the Hispanic students often wore rosaries around their necks like a necklace and apparently this is considered a gang symbol which is banned by school policy. Further, this did not just apply to Hispanic students displaying a rosary, but also applied to non-Hispanic students who might carry a rosary in their pocket or purse. So in theory, a white, honor student could be busted for belonging to a gang. :mad:

Further, and this is the real shocker, the Catholic students were told that if they received the Eucharist in the form of the blood of Christ (i.e., wine) they would be in violation of the school’s zero-tolerance policy against alcohol. :eek:

Ironically, this took place at “Freedom Middle School.” :rolleyes:

Thoughts?
My first reaction is that this could be an overly sensationalized story and ask the priest for the source of this in order to confirm it. Banning of wearing rosaries is very common in schools because of the gang problems and yes it is saddly true that the wonderfu rosary has been abused to becoming a gang symbol or rock star neckless. Now maybe, the school did tell students that wearing rosaries are banned but some of it seams like it was stretched out of proportion in having Catholic students raise their hands in some assembly and telling them no more rosaries, not even in a pocket. Some of this also sounds a little racist and pits hispanics against wasps. I would make every effort to confirm this.
 
That is unconstitutional, if someone sues that school they will (hopefully) win.
 
That is unconstitutional, if someone sues that school they will (hopefully) win.
Hey max, you may not have read the later messages. But it seems that this incident is unverified and it is questioned whether or not it even happened as described.
 
An update.

I spoke to our parochial vicar (the one who mentioned the call-out) after mass last Sunday and asked him for the source of his information. He said it was told to him first-hand by the mother of one of the students who was called out. He also said this was corroborated by some other parents and their children.

Our pastor has been in contact with the county sheriff and a low-key investigation is going on to see if any laws were broken. The school board is also involved.

The pastor said all they want is an apology; there are no plans to file a lawsuit.

Stay tuned.
 
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