Catholic teaching not found in the Bible

[Lilyflower]

Catholics often hear critics arguing that ‘the Catholic Church teaches things not found in the bible’, whereas Bible-alone groups reject these doctrines.

Actually as all Catholics know, most Catholic doctrine does in fact come from the Bible or are implied there-in.

There is however one particular doctrine the Church teaches that is not mentioned in the bible, not even loosely. But I am interested to hear if there are any ‘bible-alone folk’ here who do not agree with the Catholic teaching.

The teaching is that of the Blessed Trinity: Father Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone here who do not agree with this great Catholic doctrine?

 

[J_C]

There are some protestants who don’t find the Trinity in the Bible. One example would be United Pentecostal Church, a Oneness sect.

 

[SIA]

Catholics often hear critics arguing that ‘the Catholic Church teaches things not found in the bible’, whereas Bible-alone groups reject these doctrines.

Actually as all Catholics know, most Catholic doctrine does in fact come from the Bible or are implied there-in.

There is however one particular doctrine the Church teaches that is not mentioned in the bible, not even loosely. But I am interested to hear if there are any ‘bible-alone folk’ here who do not agree with the Catholic teaching.

The teaching is that of the Blessed Trinity: Father Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone here who do not agree with this great Catholic doctrine?

The Trinity is Biblical. It is proven in several verses. The Trinity is also Anglican doctrine.

 

[Harpazo]

The Trinity is Biblical. It is proven in several verses. The Trinity is also Anglican doctrine.

Where did the Anglicans get it from? If the Catholic Church is wrong in one or more areas, which the Anglicans undoubtedly believe, why would you accept the Trinity? Not baiting at all, looking for an honest answer to an honest question.

Al-Masih Qam!
Andrew

 

[jmcrae]

The Trinity is Biblical. It is proven in several verses. The Trinity is also Anglican doctrine.

The Trinity is loosely alluded to in Scripture, but it is not defined explicitly - if you didn’t know ahead of time that Jesus is God, you wouldn’t be able to prove it from the Bible alone. Nor would you be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that the Holy Spirit is a separate Person of God, distinct from the Father.

 

[Eden]

Great thread, Lilyflower!

 

[SIA]

Where did the Anglicans get it from? If the Catholic Church is wrong in one or more areas, which the Anglicans undoubtedly believe, why would you accept the Trinity? Not baiting at all, looking for an honest answer to an honest question.

Al-Masih Qam!
Andrew

Again, your question isn’t presented in good faith. The Trinity is Biblical, not exclusively Catholic. I know where you are trying to go with this. If the Anglican church doctrine mirrors something within Catholic doctrine, it is because that one thing is Biblical and was taught and practiced in the early Christian church.

 

[jmcrae]

Again, your question isn’t presented in good faith. The Trinity is Biblical, not exclusively Catholic. I know where you are trying to go with this. If the Anglican church doctrine mirrors something within Catholic doctrine, it is because that one thing is Biblical and was taught and practiced in the early Christian church.

Which is to say, the Catholic Church. There were no Anglicans prior to 1534. The Early Church and the Catholic Church are one and the same thing.

 

[SIA]

Which is to say, the Catholic Church. There were no Anglicans prior to 1534. The Early Church and the Catholic Church are one and the same thing.

then why doesn’t the Acts of the Apostles alude to the church in those times as the Catholic church? Pretty fair question.

 

[jmcrae]

then why doesn’t the Acts of the Apostles alude to the church in those times as the Catholic church? Pretty fair question.

It does; “Katolikos” means “Catholic.”

 

[graceandglory]

The Trinity is loosely alluded to in Scripture, but it is not defined explicitly

Right. Look it up, you will not find the word “Trinity” in there. That’s where the Church comes in. It helps us to define the doctrines and dogmas that we are all supposed to believe in order to call ourselves Catholic.

• if you didn’t know ahead of time that Jesus is God, you wouldn’t be able to prove it from the Bible alone.

Well, I think Scripture is pretty clear on Jesus being God,
***“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.” *** John 1:1-3

 

[estesbob]

Again, your question isn’t presented in good faith. The Trinity is Biblical, not exclusively Catholic. I know where you are trying to go with this. If the Anglican church doctrine mirrors something within Catholic doctrine, it is because that one thing is Biblical and was taught and practiced in the early Christian church.

It was exclusively Catholic for 1,500 years.

 

[Harpazo]

then why doesn’t the Acts of the Apostles alude to the church in those times as the Catholic church? Pretty fair question.

Why doesn’t it allude to Anglican Church? An even fairer question.

Al-Masih Qam!
Andrew

 

[xixxvmcm85]

Catholics often hear critics arguing that ‘the Catholic Church teaches things not found in the bible’, whereas Bible-alone groups reject these doctrines.

Actually as all Catholics know, most Catholic doctrine does in fact come from the Bible or are implied there-in.

There is however one particular doctrine the Church teaches that is not mentioned in the bible, not even loosely. But I am interested to hear if there are any ‘bible-alone folk’ here who do not agree with the Catholic teaching.

The teaching is that of the Blessed Trinity: Father Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone here who do not agree with this great Catholic doctrine?

I would argue that it is implied even “loosely”, otherwise the only alternative is that the Bible contradicts itself.

True there are no verses that explicitly say “The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three persons united in one substance, one God”, however there ARE verses that explicitly say that Jesus is God, that the Holy Spirit is God, and there are also verses that claim there is but one God.

The Trinity is the obvious, logical interpolation of the cumulative effect of all these verses.

 

[jmcrae]

I would argue that it is implied even “loosely”, otherwise the only alternative is that the Bible contradicts itself.

True there are no verses that explicitly say “The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three persons united in one substance, one God”, however there ARE verses that explicitly say that Jesus is God, that the Holy Spirit is God, and there are also verses that claim there is but one God.

The Trinity is the obvious, logical interpolation of the cumulative effect of all these verses.

You can also arrive at the Papacy and the Immaculate Conception in a similar way, but first you have to know which verses to look at - this, we get from the Oral Tradition.

 

[Eden]

then why doesn’t the Acts of the Apostles alude to the church in those times as the Catholic church? Pretty fair question.

Catholic (Katholikos) just means universal. We are the Church in Acts, which is universal (Catholic).

 

[paarsurrey]

The teaching is that of the Blessed Trinity: Father Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone here who do not agree with this great Catholic doctrine?

Hi

Anybody who sincerely is a follower of Jesus; should do acts that Jesus did himself and have concepts unequivocally held by Jesus and Mary as they only received Word of Revelation directly from GodAllahYHWH . Jesus was a MessengerProphet of GodAllahYHWH and as such was commanded to mention things expressly; if one cannot quote from him, words from his own mouth loud and clear then that maybe misleading.

This is my opinion; others could differ with me with reasons.

Thanks

 

[jmcrae]

Catholic (Katholikos) just means universal. We are the Church in Acts, which is universal (Catholic).

Yes. The whole Church was always Catholic until in 1517 the Protestants started making divisions in it.

 

[paarsurrey]

There are some protestants who don’t find the Trinity in the Bible. One example would be United Pentecostal Church, a Oneness sect.

Hi

I also don’t find Trinity mentioned in the Bible from Word of revelation from GodAllahYHWH or Word from the mouth of JesusYeshuaIssa or from Mary. People try to derive these concepts from very far fetched interpretition; without any clarity for such basic issues.

Others are welcome to differ with me with sound reasons.

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

The Trinity is loosely alluded to in Scripture, but it is not defined explicitly - if you didn’t know ahead of time that Jesus is God, you wouldn’t be able to prove it from the Bible alone. Nor would you be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that the Holy Spirit is a separate Person of God, distinct from the Father.

Hi

You are very right. Since Trinity is a concept that neither Jesus held nor Mary; so it is definitely not mentioned explicitly. Its origin rather rests with Paul and his tempering with the concepts of Jesus and Mary.

I love Jesus and Mary and hence won’t follow Paul; though I would love to follow Paul and Mary.

I howeve respect your faith.

Thanks