Catholic Values at Work

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Hi,

Can anyone assist me with finding in canon law the paragraph that would support my belief that I as a Catholic should not support intrinsic evils like abortion? My company participates in an annual fund raiser and requires employees (two per year) to assist in the leadership team that promotes the event. Employees are able to either directly or indirectly through the general fund to support abortion mills. I would feel that working on such a project would be contributing to a moral evil. I thought either canon law or another document of the Magisterium would support my position.

God bless, StanS
 
I was in a similar position last year. I was the leader of my employer’s fund drive, and I found out later that Planned Parenthood was indirectly benefiting from the money we collected. It was a real blow to what I thought was a pretty good program. Anyway, I would simply use the Catechism as a starting point. Research abortion and other related areas of concern. If abortion is as evil as we believe, then it only stands to reason we should avoid encouraging it in any way.

Another poster may have a better suggestion for you, but those are my two cents.
 
From the Catechism:

1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
  • by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
  • by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
  • by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
  • by protecting evil-doers.
 
From the Catechism:

1868 Sin is a personal act. Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them:
  • by participating directly and voluntarily in them;
  • by ordering, advising, praising, or approving them;
  • by not disclosing or not hindering them when we have an obligation to do so;
  • by protecting evil-doers.
All true, but what about some practical advice?

It seems to me that the participation is hardly voluntary, and that alone makes me wonder. Our company has volunteer opportunities and we occasionally sponsor events, but nobody is forced to participate. For example, we have $5 Jeans day for the Komen foundation, those who have concerns about that foundation simply don’t pay the $5 and come to work dressed like they do any other day.
 
Hi,

Can anyone assist me with finding in canon law the paragraph that would support my belief that I as a Catholic should not support intrinsic evils like abortion? My company participates in an annual fund raiser and requires employees (two per year) to assist in the leadership team that promotes the event. Employees are able to either directly or indirectly through the general fund to support abortion mills. I would feel that working on such a project would be contributing to a moral evil. I thought either canon law or another document of the Magisterium would support my position.

God bless, StanS
Are you speaking of United Way, Stan? There is a way to designate your contribution for specific causes in that case. You’d have to be more specific…is this a general fund or specifically for “abortion mills”. Sorry to say so, but I think you need to understand this better.
 
Hi,

Can anyone assist me with finding in canon law the paragraph that would support my belief that I as a Catholic should not support intrinsic evils like abortion? My company participates in an annual fund raiser and requires employees (two per year) to assist in the leadership team that promotes the event. Employees are able to either directly or indirectly through the general fund to support abortion mills. I would feel that working on such a project would be contributing to a moral evil. I thought either canon law or another document of the Magisterium would support my position.

God bless, StanS
Hi Stan–your company ‘requires’ this of you? Not only is this against what you believe in from a faith perspective, I don’t imagine that it’s ethical from a HR perspective, either. I mean, if something goes against your religion, and/or faith beliefs, then you should not be required to participate. Or threatened to participate at the risk of losing your job, let’s say. I agree, that I would feel like I was ‘working for’ a moral evil. What do you think you’ll do?

I’m sorry you are even faced with this decision!😦
 
Hi,

Can anyone assist me with finding in canon law the paragraph that would support my belief that I as a Catholic should not support intrinsic evils like abortion? My company participates in an annual fund raiser and requires employees (two per year) to assist in the leadership team that promotes the event. Employees are able to either directly or indirectly through the general fund to support abortion mills. I would feel that working on such a project would be contributing to a moral evil. I thought either canon law or another document of the Magisterium would support my position.

God bless, StanS
**Stan -
You don’t have to look at a canon law on this; look at your own government.

Title VII requires employers to accommodate employees who refuse to do specific tasks because of a conflict with religious beliefs. For instance, an employer has been required to accommodate a religious worker’s objections to abortion. In that case, an Internal Revenue Service employee refused to handle applications for tax exempt status submitted by any organization which supported abortion. The court ruled that accommodating the employee would not result in undue hardship to the employer because the number of applications the employee might refuse to handle would be relatively insignificant as compared to his total workload.

So employees who have a religious objection to abortion can request that their employer not require them to work on projects involving abortion. The employer will be required to grant this request if it can assign these projects to other employees without undue hardship.**
 
First, thanks to everyone for taking the time to write and support my argument. Much appreciated.

Second, I did not know if the forum allows specific companies to be mentioned. I understand from an individuals viewpoint that you can elect to either contribute to the general fund or specific fund. I am sorry that I was unclear in my question. My company “asks” a small group of employees to be the champions for the annual fund drive. It is their requirement to meet (better exceed) this years target. Since I would be prevented from removing the abortion mills options or not allowing any of the general funds to contribute to the murder of innocent life I would like to remove myself from the process.

Lastly, I think many of you have given me both religious and secular points that I can use to professionally and courteously respond negatively to joining the annual fund drive leadership team. I just was not certain what measures a secular firm would understand. I know this sounds like a unique request but many firms not only require staff to lead the annual drive but the companies entire staff are “forced” to contribute a certain amount of their annual pay to the fund. Since many people are driven by the almighty dollar they freely consent so that they 1) get a bigger paycheck 2) are deemed a team player and 3) do what the boss says. I am not talking about minimum wage earners. Many of our executives came from firms where it is well known that you either contribute or are off the “A” list. Since the dollar is their god they freely contribute. Regarding abortion, most that I deal with in work believe in the “its their right” argument or that it is law of the land. Morals or religious values are looked down upon and can actually hold you back from promotions. But try to prove it. I am going for an advanced degree in Theology and have been told 1) Why? 2) Guess you are not commited to the firm.

Long story and I am sorry that I have taken too much of your time. Again, thanks for all the suggestions.

God bless, StanS 👍

PS Yes, if asked I will say no. Better to be unemployed for a period of time than be responsible beyond what I already am (US Federal taxes support PP) for killing innocent life.
 
First, thanks to everyone for taking the time to write and support my argument. Much appreciated.

Second, I did not know if the forum allows specific companies to be mentioned. I understand from an individuals viewpoint that you can elect to either contribute to the general fund or specific fund. I am sorry that I was unclear in my question. My company “asks” a small group of employees to be the champions for the annual fund drive. It is their requirement to meet (better exceed) this years target. Since I would be prevented from removing the abortion mills options or not allowing any of the general funds to contribute to the murder of innocent life I would like to remove myself from the process.

Lastly, I think many of you have given me both religious and secular points that I can use to professionally and courteously respond negatively to joining the annual fund drive leadership team. I just was not certain what measures a secular firm would understand. I know this sounds like a unique request but many firms not only require staff to lead the annual drive but the companies entire staff are “forced” to contribute a certain amount of their annual pay to the fund. Since many people are driven by the almighty dollar they freely consent so that they 1) get a bigger paycheck 2) are deemed a team player and 3) do what the boss says. I am not talking about minimum wage earners. Many of our executives came from firms where it is well known that you either contribute or are off the “A” list. Since the dollar is their god they freely contribute. Regarding abortion, most that I deal with in work believe in the “its their right” argument or that it is law of the land. Morals or religious values are looked down upon and can actually hold you back from promotions. But try to prove it. I am going for an advanced degree in Theology and have been told 1) Why? 2) Guess you are not commited to the firm.

Long story and I am sorry that I have taken too much of your time. Again, thanks for all the suggestions.

God bless, StanS 👍

PS Yes, if asked I will say no. Better to be unemployed for a period of time than be responsible beyond what I already am (US Federal taxes support PP) for killing innocent life.
Stan,
I wish to repeat that if this is indeed a United Way campaign, you are free to designate your contribution. 🙂
 
Stan,
I wish to repeat that if this is indeed a United Way campaign, you are free to designate your contribution. 🙂
Yes, I understand from an individual’s perspective you can choice other charitable organizations. I do not contribute at all to the fund. I prefer to give directly to most Catholic organizations that do not waste 15+ percent of my funds on overhead.

My question is about me being tasked with creating the 2009 campaign for my institution. Since this fund drive contributes to the killing of babies I do not want to be part of the team that supports the fund. Since I would not be allowed to remove PP listings from the drive or general fund, I feel that I would be contributing indirectly to the killing of innocent life.

I am asking for assistance (which I have received) to remove myself from being part of the campaign team due to reasons of religious objections.

God bless, Stan
 
Originally posted by StanS
PS Yes, if asked I will say no. Better to be unemployed for a period of time than be responsible beyond what I already am (US Federal taxes support PP) for killing innocent life.

Stan - did you read my posting on Title VII? They can’t ‘fire’ you for not participating. IT’S AGAINST THE LAW!
 
Yes, I understand from an individual’s perspective you can choice other charitable organizations. I do not contribute at all to the fund. I prefer to give directly to most Catholic organizations that do not waste 15+ percent of my funds on overhead.
Not to pick on poor Stan, but I think that this is one of the problems of trying to merge modern US conservatism, which is an odd mix of laise faire capitolism and extreme Evangelical Protestantism with Catholicism. Trying to live such a mish-mash of fundementally incompatible ideas leaves us impotent.

Instead of doing our best to carry Christ’s light into a dark world, we end up wringing our hands and complaining about contamination from the infidels, essentially the world view of the Pharisees.

It is very natural to think of oneself as ‘good’ and be judgemental of the ‘bad’, but what did Jesus teach about the dutiful son? Sure, the prodigal son was far astray, but read the parable. Read what our Pope has to say about it.

Every week at Mass we remind ourselves multiple times that not one of us is worthy. We are all sinners who are not worthy. We all fail God, every week of our lives. The message I hear again and again in the Gospels is that we are to live the word, not wring our hands at those who we believe live it less completely than ourselves.

Let’s look at the situation. In a culture which is currently suffering terribly from the consequences of unchecked greed and a failure to honor Chritian obligation to the truth, Stan is trying not to participate in a company event which is attempting to do good and promote social responsibility. Compare that to, say, Enron, which used lies and deception to build a fortune, largely at the expense of others, only to squander it away on still more lies and deception - leaving its retiring workers essentially pensionless in the wake of its bankruptcy.

At all my companies I have always had a charitable contribution matching policy. I have never policed the choices people make. The idea is to promote a fundemental Christian concept of our responsbility to our fellow man. So to me it seems simple, take something which is a good step in the right direction and help build on it. Catholics are a community of Christ with an obligation to be the living word. Did Jesus minister primarily to the Pharisees? Religious ultra conservatives and war heroes to their nation? No, the sinners, the outcasts, the weak, the poor.

If we declare everything not precisely to our own spiritual awareness beneath us and seperate ourselves, how can we fulfill our Catholic Evangelical responsiblities?

Peace
 
Thank you, thank you!
This is precisely what we need to hear! 👍
As Andrew Cohen has written:
This is the age of the individual. And we’re not doing too well as a result of the fact that we have all grown up in a cultural climate of narcissism and materialism that has taught us to think far too much about number one. So this teaching is very much about the leap from the* I *to the WE.

Stan, my apologies for not understand your issue.
 
Second, I did not know if the forum allows specific companies to be mentioned. I understand from an individuals viewpoint that you can elect to either contribute to the general fund or specific fund. I am sorry that I was unclear in my question. My company “asks” a small group of employees to be the champions for the annual fund drive. It is their requirement to meet (better exceed) this years target. Since I would be prevented from removing the abortion mills options or not allowing any of the general funds to contribute to the murder of innocent life I would like to remove myself from the process.
Stan,

If it’s United Way, just say “NO”. I did. As a manager, I was expected to be a UW “campaign” leader and I told them I do not support UW and will not be a campaign leader. No one ever said “boo” about it.

And, as for that designation stuff, it’s smoke and mirrors. UW pledges a total dollar amount to member agencies. So, if they’ve pledged $100K to PP and you designate your $100 to go to the center for the blind or whatever, then someone else’s money goes to PP because center for the blind was already designated to get $50K and your $100 just got slotted there. It doesn’t mean PP doesn’t still get it’s $100K.
Lastly, I think many of you have given me both religious and secular points that I can use to professionally and courteously respond negatively to joining the annual fund drive leadership team. I just was not certain what measures a secular firm would understand. I know this sounds like a unique request but many firms not only require staff to lead the annual drive but the companies entire staff are “forced” to contribute a certain amount of their annual pay to the fund.
No one can be forced to give a percentage of their pay to a corporate sponsored charity or event. It just isn’t true that companies “force” employees to contribute. It’s illegal.

They certainly incentify doing things like raffling off casual days, money, etc, to get people to contribute, but if you turn in your card with $0 written on it-- it “counts” as participation.
Guess you are not commited to the firm…
If they start down that path, then it’s time to find another “firm”.
 
Stan,
I wish to repeat that if this is indeed a United Way campaign, you are free to designate your contribution. 🙂
Stan you can designate the funds. But in my experience and opinion that just leaves more of other peoples money going to PP and its evil.

Also IMHO if you become the person that is “talking others into contributing” then it could place you in the category of “promoting” intrinsic evil. I will pray for your situation.

PAX
 
Originally posted by StanS
PS Yes, if asked I will say no. Better to be unemployed for a period of time than be responsible beyond what I already am (US Federal taxes support PP) for killing innocent life.

Stan - did you read my posting on Title VII? They can’t ‘fire’ you for not participating. IT’S AGAINST THE LAW!
peary,

Yes, thanks for finding this for me. Section VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Hopefully, I will not have to use.

God bless, Stan 👍
 
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