Catholic view of Muslims

[mhmtas]

THERE İS UNİQUE GOD WHO CREATES EVERY THİNG!
God is unique and there is no God except God. İf there were more than one God they would not agree and accord because each one would like do as he he like. Catholics say Father can force other Gods(Son, Holy Spirit). Than is there any sense and mean that we say Son and Holy Spirit divide the same divinity with God? İf they have same divinity why do they can not do as they like?

Muslims know that Christian believe in same God with them but Christian are in mistake with God’s attributes. Because Christian say Jesus is son of God with same divinity. Muslims say İsa(Jesus) is prophet of God. Than there is one God everyone claim that god is ours. God is all God and creator.

But İslam and prophet Muhammed did not take from Jews and Christ. Originality and accurate of İslam prove that. Gabriel brought revelation of God to Muhammed. İf you a bit ascertain you will understand.

 

[jesus4ever]

Saint Padra Pio said that the devil can look like an angel in light or appear to look like the virgin Mary our the lord Jesus. I think this is what happen to Mohummed. If i was to say this to a Muslim they would get very angry.

 

[mhmtas]

Saint Padra Pio said that the devil can look like an angel in light or appear to look like the virgin Mary our the lord Jesus. I think this is what happen to Mohummed. If i was to say this to a Muslim they would get very angry.

When a Muslim say Jesus is not son of God but prophet of God there is no aspersion and rejection because we say the fact. Muslims love Jesus because he is a prophet. But when a Muslim say that Christian understnad this as if it is an assault. İndeed it is saying the fact that is no harmfull for Christians. Because if they consider Jesus only as a prophet there is salvation for them. Muslims do not reject Christianity but claim that there are some unacceptable ideas that occured by time.

But to defend Christians doctorine and so assault and reject İslam and a prophet is not a kind, fair way. That is a very big blame and mistake.

 

[FabiusMaximus]

Hello all,

I came across a facebook post by a Muslim friend of mine that got me thinking - she was asking why Christians claim they and Muslims believe in different Gods. I don’t usually post things on facebook about other religions because I haven’t done any research, but the question interested me so I googled it and responded back to her, basically saying the following:

Christians believe in a Trinitarian God, while Muslims do not, since they believe Jesus was just simply a messenger of God, not the Son of God/God himself. In this sense, they are different Gods, since they have different characteristics.

Is this accurate, or is this the best way to answer? Do you think it would be accurate to say that in some sense we believe in the same God - for example, their God would be the equivalent of our God the Father, first person of the Trinity? I mean, it doesn’t seem to me that we believe in totally different Gods - just that they have a very simplified version of the Christian God - almost like (no offense to any Muslims, but for lack of a better term) an unenlightened version of the Christian God?

Either way, the question of whether we believe in the same God or not to me seems to revolve around the Christian belief in the Trinity. What do you all think?

I suppose it’s technically the same God, but it’s an extremely distorted and corrupted view of him, so he might as well be an altogether different God. In the grand scheme of things I’m not even sure that matters.

 

[Sam_777]

**bobballen_18,
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Satan is deceiving many people, he is pretending to be God per (Isaiah 14:14):
"I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”

BUT, THE MOST HIGH is so merciful, that is why He inspired the Catholic Church to include those who really deceived by Satan and think they were worshiping GOD, CCC 841:
"The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

 

[Allegra]

We all believe that there is one God who created the universe, so in that sense, one can say we believe in the same God.
However, our understanding of the nature of that God is so different from the Muslim understanding that they are almost not recognizable as the same Being. That’s why people say we don’t believe in the same God. I think our understanding of the nature of God the Father is much more in line with the understanding of the Jewish people, but I think a reasonable argument could be made that even those understandings are so different that we can’t say they are the “same” God.

 

[Ontheway]

When a Muslim say Jesus is not son of God but prophet of God there is no aspersion and rejection because we say the fact. Muslims love Jesus because he is a prophet. But when a Muslim say that Christian understnad this as if it is an assault. İndeed it is saying the fact that is no harmfull for Christians. Because if they consider Jesus only as a prophet there is salvation for them. Muslims do not reject Christianity but claim that there are some unacceptable ideas that occured by time.

But to defend Christians doctorine and so assault and reject İslam and a prophet is not a kind, fair way. That is a very big blame and mistake.

My friend. First, read the Holy Bible. All of it. From the Book of Genesis all the way through. Then, we can start debating issues pertaining to God.

But before you start that, a small question about the Koran. Muslims maintain that Mohamed is the final and the greatest frophet and that his word supersedes all the others. Your book also tells us that God took Jesus up to heaven, while Mohamed is buried in the desert. Why would this be if Mohamed is the greatest?

Salaam

 

[Ontheway]

THERE İS UNİQUE GOD WHO CREATES EVERY THİNG!
God is unique and there is no God except God. İf there were more than one God they would not agree and accord because each one would like do as he he like. Catholics say Father can force other Gods(Son, Holy Spirit). Than is there any sense and mean that we say Son and Holy Spirit divide the same divinity with God? İf they have same divinity why do they can not do as they like?

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All Christians believe that there is one God. Only the Muslims seem to think that there are three gods. You are simply in error.

 

[Ontheway]

Yes, I have always believed this, but when I bring it up with Muslim friends they deny it that we are created by the same God who hears all our prayers; whereas Jewish friends acknowledge that. I am wondering why.

I think because your Jewish friends have no interest in converting you, while the Muslim’s mission is to make you a Muslim.

 

[Ontheway]

Well, this can be disproved but I find it easier to grant the claim first. Then one can point out that such a thing is still not reason to think Muhammed as authoritative of the supernatural.

Given the claim is true,

1. One can think of Muhammed as a great writer beyond anyone we ever knew. Because if not for Muhammed, there will be an alternate text we call as the greatest work of humanity anyway.
2. One can also think of Muhammed as a great scientist or visionary ahead of his time. Arthur C. Clarke, H.G. Wells made scientific predictions in their sci-fi work. No one considers them as worthy of belief regarding the supernatural. Albert Einstein, great intellectual who made a lot of predictions and theories. We do not consider him authoritative regarding the supernatural truths.

So both of the above do not lead us to think he has access to proclaim unverifiable truths i.e. supernatural truths about God, heaven etc. Therefore, Muhammed would still be unworthy of belief.

P.S. Usually it is the Sunni branches of Islam that tend to make claims that the Quran is scientifically accurate. I find that Shia tend to shy away from it. But then again, since Shia is a minority, it doesn’t have much bearing.

A small correction to the above. Muhammed did not write the Koran. He maintained that he was illiterate. He simply repeated his stories to people, who in turn repeated them to other people and so on. Some time after Mohamed’s death someone wrote them down. Initially, there were many versions, but eventually only one emerged.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Muslims are fine, Sharia Law as practiced in many areas is unacceptable and inconsistent with Freedom and Peace and Harmony among mankind. Its really that simple imho.