Catholic view on modesty

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I have found Modestly Yours to be a good reminder that there are actually modest young women like myself (because I don’t come across many).

It is important even for those who are striving to lead chaste lives to remember, that modesty and purity do come hand in hand as section 2521 in the Catechism states. It is still a shock to my brain to see how teenage girls, famous (Miley Cyrus) and not, have had such poor parenting that they are allowed to leave the house dressed as street walkers.Prayers are in order for these girls.

I believe that not only does purity go hand in hand with modesty, but also high self-esteem.
 
I have found Modestly Yours to be a good reminder that there are actually modest young women like myself (because I don’t come across many).

It is important even for those who are striving to lead chaste lives to remember, that modesty and purity do come hand in hand as section 2521 in the Catechism states. It is still a shock to my brain to see how teenage girls, famous (Miley Cyrus) and not, have had such poor parenting that they are allowed to leave the house dressed as street walkers.Prayers are in order for these girls.

I believe that not only does purity go hand in hand with modesty, but also high self-esteem.
Dear Musicadmirer,

Cordial greetings and thanks for your excellent comments above.

It is a sad reflection of the times in which we are now living that it is necessary to try to convince Catholics, who ought to know better, that immodest attire is unacceptable. This would not have been a hotly debated issue among the faithful prior to the 1960’s.

Since the moral revolution of sixties, our Western culture has become increasingly decadent and brash. The things which would once have made tender Catholic consciences recoil in disgust sadly no longer do so. We are now in awful danger of becoming deadened to the prevailing decadence, so that we are no longer offended by that which is unseemly or improper.

If I have understood are Catechism correctly, then our Church has spoken quite unambiguously on this whole matter of modesty in our clothing (CCC, paras. 2521-2523). Moreover, St. Paul in one of his Pastoral letters says to young Timothy, “women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly aparrel” (I Tim. 2: 9). Now if the Church and Sacred Scripture have spoken as plainly as that, then Catholics should submit themselves to this teaching without demur. BTW, the word translated “modesty” in the Timothy text denotes a sense of shame and a shrinking back from trespassing the boundaries of propriety. Thus any attire that is decidedly indecent, for example mini-skirts, bikin’s and low-cut garmments revealing cleavage, does not fit the bill and should be avoided by all Catholic woman. They should rather seek to wear clothing that is expressive of an inner modesty and of a sober outlook on life, that is to say a Christian outlook.

Finally, it is one thing for a woman to make herself attractive, but quite another thing to make herself seductive, or to look like, to use your term, a street walker; woman do know the difference and so do men.

It is uncommon but, nevertheless, encouraging to hear from a young woman like yourself who is seeking to be modest and pure; you are an inspiration to all of us in these decadent times.

God bless you Musicadmirer.

Warmest good wishes,

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I think the virtue of modesty is best summed up in the words of John Paul II, who wrote the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in his work Love and Responsibility:

“Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person, when its aim is to arouse concupiscence, as a result of which the person is put in the position of an object for enjoyment.”

-John Paul II, Love and Responsibility, page 190

It can be found at:

books.google.com/books?id=TNRY9HkssDQC&pg=PA190&lpg=PA190&dq=immodesty+is+present+only+when+nakedness+plays+a+negative+role&source=bl&ots=sx1n0BAWAX&sig=0CyJAFZeCJdLD70_YKD62-7I0JE&hl=en&ei=x1EiTKbyB8T8nAfz-_jADw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=immodesty%20is%20present%20only%20when%20nakedness%20plays%20a%20negative%20role&f=false
 
Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2521 Purity requires modesty, an integral part of temperance. Modesty protects the intimate center of the person. It means refusing to unveil what should remain hidden. It is ordered to chastity to whose sensitivity it bears witness. It guides how one looks at others and behaves toward them in conformity with the dignity of persons and their solidarity.

2522 Modesty protects the mystery of persons and their love. It encourages patience and moderation in loving relationships; it requires that the conditions for the definitive giving and commitment of man and woman to one another be fulfilled. Modesty is decency. It inspires one’s choice of clothing. It keeps silence or reserve where there is evident risk of unhealthy curiosity. It is discreet.

2523 There is a modesty of the feelings as well as of the body. It protests, for example, against the voyeuristic explorations of the human body in certain advertisements, or against the solicitations of certain media that go too far in the exhibition of intimate things. Modesty inspires a way of life which makes it possible to resist the allurements of fashion and the pressures of prevailing ideologies.

2524 The forms taken by modesty vary from one culture to another. Everywhere, however, modesty exists as an intuition of the spiritual dignity proper to man. It is born with the awakening consciousness of being a subject. Teaching modesty to children and adolescents means awakening in them respect for the human person.

2525 Christian purity requires a purification of the social climate. It requires of the communications media that their presentations show concern for respect and restraint. Purity of heart brings freedom from widespread eroticism and avoids entertainment inclined to voyeurism and illusion.
 
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But what exactly is your point in posting these quotes from the CCC? Most of us surely possess a copy of the document, or can obtain it easily online. This is a discussion forum - so what do you wish to DISCUSS about what you have posted? As opposed to just quoting the words of others.

~Liza
 
But many Catholics who has posted on women’s dress have seemed completely unaware of Catholic teaching in the matter. While this teaching is in the Catechism the simple fact that it is in the Catechism hasn’t meant that Catholics are aware of it. Bringing it out can be helpful.
But what exactly is your point in posting these quotes from the CCC? Most of us surely possess a copy of the document, or can obtain it easily online. This is a discussion forum - so what do you wish to DISCUSS about what you have posted? As opposed to just quoting the words of others.

~Liza
 
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