Catholic vs Protestant Spirituality: Lets compare faith walks

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And now this: You’re here, fighting against “ false doctrines and practices “; and preaching to faithful Catholics on our website?
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I think when you invite others to share their faith journeys, you open up the conversation to something that looks like preaching.
 
I’m not offended by Hodos saying the RCC has false doctrines. Because that’s what he believes.

I think he’s wrong, of course. 🙂
 
The problem with most “ecumenical” discussions on here is that they end up with a non-Catholic either stating that Catholic doctrine is wrong/ in error, or a non-Catholic getting offended because a Catholic emphatically states Catholic doctrine is correct.

As somebody pointed out earlier, this isn’t a neutral forum. It’s called Catholic Answers and favors the Catholic viewpoint.

While I am not bothered by non-Catholics believing what they choose to believe, there’s an issue with forum rules violation when they act the way I stated above, because either action is essentially disrespectful to the Catholic Church.
 
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But how can a discerning person come to religiously follow a man with the scatalogical vitriol that spewed from the mouth and writing of Luther? How can anyone, even momentarily, see anything remotely like holiness or religiosity in such a man?
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Evidently you have never read Paul’s letter to the Galatians or Ezekiel.
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Hodos, why have you drawn this rather condescending conclusion about me?

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The misunderstandings that Luther was addressing were the result of sketchy doctrine and even sketchier practice, the practices flowed from the muddy doctrine, and the muddy doctrine was reinforced by practice.
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Hodos, “sketchy doctrine” and “muddy doctrine” seem a bit sketchy and muddy. Specifically, what doctrine was sketchy and how?

And, what doctrine was muddy and how?
 
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Good evening, all my Protestant brothers and sisters.

In apologetics with you, we get all caught up in theology and doctrine; an endless go around that gets us nowhere.

In my Lutheran days, I struggled mightily with my sins. Deeply ingrained habits that Protestant theology couldn’t touch at all. Wasn’t one iota of help for me. I would read Sacred Scripture and more and more, the Catholic position made more sense.

Because of it, I began to pray the Rosary and that was such a good help, making me a better Christian; that Our Lady led me into the Church. I’ve found my rest and I haven’t looked back.

It was Catholic spirituality that solved a great many problems for me and led me to the truth of Jesus Christ and His Faith.

When I was Lutheran, I saw no spirituality. No interior life. Everything felt dry to me; things just felt off and weird. My basic point being: I feel in Protestantism that there’s too much emphasis on the mind; not the heart.

Don’t get me wrong. I saw people in Protestant communities with good fruits. But, it felt like people followed doctrine without a living feel of the spiritual.

Now, in my combat with you, I feel there’s too much intellectual argument over theology and doctrine. No comparison of faith walks.

I feel the real truth of any understanding lies in how the heart of the believer is transformed.
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I’m curious how you’d feel if you read the reverse! 😆

Good evening, all my Catholic brothers and sisters.

In apologetics with you, we get all caught up in theology and doctrine; an endless go around that gets us nowhere.

In my Catholic days, I struggled mightily with my sins. Deeply ingrained habits that Catholic theology couldn’t touch at all. Wasn’t one iota of help for me. I would read Sacred Scripture and more and more, the Protestant position made more sense.

Because of it, I prayed the Sinner’s Prayer and that was such a good help, making me a better Christian; that it led me to a personal relationship with Jesus. I’ve found my rest and I haven’t looked back.

It was accepting Jesus as my Personal Savior that solved a great many problems for me and led me to the truth of Jesus Christ and His Faith.

When I was Catholic, I saw no spirituality. No interior life. Everything felt dry to me; things just felt off and weird. My basic point being: I feel in Catholicism that there’s too much emphasis on the rules; not on the heart.

Don’t get me wrong. I saw people in Catholic communities with good fruits. But it felt like people followed doctrine without a living feel of the spiritual.

Please, my separated brothers and sisters, let’s compare faith walks, shall we?
 
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All one. Needs to do is read the questions and answers here. 3 step rule
If your Catholic go to mass or its a sin … And check out the insecurity of all the sins you comit 2. go to confession. Go to mass and 3…receive the Eucharist
All the protestant denominations . AOG. Pentecostal. Baptist. Teach you how to apply the teachings of Scripture. In your daily life.
They relate to the Holy spirit to get wisdom.
 
You misunderstand the Catholic life to a great degree, my friend. Ask me some questions and I’ll answer you.
 
After some contemplation, Hodos:

What specific doctrines to you find “ false “ in either medieval or current day teaching?

I’ll endeavor to help you understand past the misconceptions you may have.
 
Hodos, I’ve been praying and contemplating. Here’s the fruits of that prayer and contemplation.

You’re a brilliant mind, Hodos. Well versed in what you believe and how to defend it. I respect that.

But, have you considered in all of your doctrinal thinking and work; the value of love over faith? As Saint Paul says: “ I may have faith to move mountains… Without love, I am nothing. “

Have you considered the hurt you could do people in calling their beliefs and practices “ false “ and that you must fight them? Does that show love of neighbor or ideological blindness and arrogance? I ask because what you had said hurt me. I thought we were friends and we could discuss our differences in a scholarly fashion rather than defend myself from a crusading demagogue.

What about Love? Love is the core of Our Lord’s Message. Not faith alone; not works alone. Love, my friend. Love of God and love of neighbor. As Our Lord said: “ Upon these hang all of the Law and Prophets “.

Nicodemus has asked Our Lord how can he inherit eternal life. Our Lord answered him: “ Keep the Commandments. “ That’s works, my friend. Straight from Our Savior’s lips. He also said: “ Love each other as I have loved you. “ Love! Not faith alone!

So, Our Lord Himself taught faith and works in His Ministry. Doesn’t even matter how you guys interpret Saint Paul in his letters. Our Lord Himself said it and makes Pauline exegesis meaningless and moot in comparison.

Please, Hodos: Bear Our Lord’s Gospel of Love in mind. Please don’t hurt others in your zeal for the misinterpretations that you honestly believe in.

God bless you and I love you.
 
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What you have to bear in mind, Special is that the Church, however perfect herself; is served by imperfect men and women. Don’t confuse the perfect Church with fallible human beings.

The problem that Luther and the other Protestants was that however much the Church in fact needed reform; they threw out much good along with the bad they believed they were addressing. The Church and her doctrine itself were fine. The problem was the corruption and laxity in not following that doctrine in practice. Please keep these important distinctions in mind.

Please don’t use terms like papist or papistry. That’s hurtful to some people. We are Catholics; not papists.

Special: If you have any questions concerning the Faith; please ask me and I’ll answer. Please stop posting judgmental comments and seek understanding instead.
 
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To be honest, I’ve seen this be a two way street.

I will agree that I’ve seen what lay out, but I have also seen Catholics get offended at something said and more than just emphatically…but sometimes just rudely and snarkily reply. Even to the point where other Catholics on the board call them out for it.

I’ve had people get mad at me for just answering a “why” question.

I’m not pointing fingers, just that I’ve seen it go both ways.
 
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and answers here. 3 step rule
If your Catholic go to mass or its a sin … And check out the insecurity of all the sins you comit 2. go to confession. Go to mass and 3…receive the Eucharist
All the protestant denominations . AOG. Pentecostal. Baptist. Teach you how to apply the teachings of Scripture. In your daily life.
They relate to the Holy spirit to get wisdom
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Yes its easy if you get wisdom from the holy spirit
 
You have no idea what a proper Catholic life is. A Catholic is to work hard at not committing a mortal sin in the first place. To work on on the interior conversion of heart that makes sin less and less likely.

Most devout Catholics aren’t committing mortal sins on a weekly basis that requires the Sacrament of Confession. Devout Catholics often go to Confession to have their venial sins forgiven.

Now that’s dealt with: I don’t need to go to a Baptist or Pentacostal church in order to receive the Holy Spirit.

Every Catholic receives the Holy Spirit at Baptism and Confirmation. As good Catholics; we can pray to the Holy Spirit and receive Him; learning to discern His movements in our hearts and souls and receive divine inspiration and wisdom.

Next comment, please.
 
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