Catholic vs Roman Catholic

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Whenever I go on a trip that will keep me away from my home parish the first thing I look for is a Roman Catholic church and their mass schedule so I can plan my trip around mass times. I find that there are listings for Roman Catholic and Catholic churches. Sometimes the same church is listed in both classification but more often there are different churches in each classification.

Is there a difference? I always go to the Roman Catholic church but just found this to be odd that there are two different listings.
 
Whenever I go on a trip that will keep me away from my home parish the first thing I look for is a Roman Catholic church and their mass schedule so I can plan my trip around mass times. I find that there are listings for Roman Catholic and Catholic churches. Sometimes the same church is listed in both classification but more often there are different churches in each classification.

Is there a difference? I always go to the Roman Catholic church but just found this to be odd that there are two different listings.
Some people have temper tantrums that Catholic and Roman Catholic are equivalent, normally Catholic and Roman Catholic mean the exact same thing, but you may encounter an old catholic or liberal catholic church every now and again and they are most definitely not Catholic.
 
Is there a difference? I always go to the Roman Catholic church but just found this to be odd that there are two different listings.
There are Eastern Catholic Churches who are not Roman, but still Catholic.
 
Well, normally it DOES mean the same thing BUT there are different rites (not denominations) of the Catholic Church (as in Churches that are in communion with Rome and hold Catholic doctrine):

Western/Latin Rite
  • Roman Catholic Church (Charismatic Catholics, I think fit into this category, correct me if I’m wrong)
Eastern Rite
Some times Eastern Rite Catholics identify as “Roman Catholic” while others do not…
  • Armenian Catholic Church
  • Belarusian Greek Catholic Church
  • Bulgarian Catholic Church
  • Chaldean Catholic Church
  • Coptic Catholic Church
  • Croatian Greek Catholic Church
  • Ethiopian Catholic Church
  • Georgian Catholic Church
  • Greek Catholic Church
  • Hungarian Greek Catholic Church
  • Italo-Albanian Catholic Church
  • Macedonian Catholic Church
  • Maronite Catholic Church
  • Melkite Catholic Church
  • Romanian Catholic Church
  • Russian Catholic Church
  • Ruthenian Catholic Church (usually called the “Byzantine Catholic Church” in the United States)
  • Slovak Greek Catholic Church
  • Syrian Catholic Church
  • Syro-Malabar Church
  • Syro-Malankara Catholic Church
  • Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church
**And then there are “the breakaways”… **
These are those who, unlike Protestants, hold Catholic doctrine but, like Protestants, broke off and found their own Church, watch out for these…
  • Apostolic Catholic Church
  • American Catholic Church in the United States
  • Bosnian Church (no longer in existence)
  • Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church
  • Catholic Charismatic Church of Canada (which isn’t the “Charismatics” I talked about earlier)
  • Celtic Catholic Church
  • Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association
  • Communion of Christ the Redeemer
  • Free Catholic Church
  • Liberal Catholic Church
  • Mariavite Church
  • Old Catholic Church
  • Old Catholic Church of America
  • Old Catholic Church in Europe
  • Palmarian Catholic Church
  • Philippine Independent Church
  • Polish National Catholic Church
  • Sedevacantists
  • Spiritus Christi
  • True Catholic Church
 
Catholic is often used by Roman Catholics who don’t know that the Latin Rite isn’t the only rite, right? 😉
 
I’ve always heard that Roman Catholic is a pejorative used by Protestants.
 
Catholic is often used by Roman Catholics who don’t know that the Latin Rite isn’t the only rite, right? 😉
Just to point out, there is no such thing as the Latin Rite, the ‘Latin Church’ uses four different rites and in the past had many more 😉
 
Whenever I go on a trip that will keep me away from my home parish the first thing I look for is a Roman Catholic church and their mass schedule so I can plan my trip around mass times. I find that there are listings for Roman Catholic and Catholic churches. Sometimes the same church is listed in both classification but more often there are different churches in each classification.

Is there a difference? I always go to the Roman Catholic church but just found this to be odd that there are two different listings.
Depends on the source you are using. If you are using some secular source from the local area, they might not know that there can be a distinction when compiling a list of Churches by category. A Roman Catholic Church is a Catholic Church – so the term is the same. A Catholic Church may or may not be Roman. The distinction might not be obvious to the source you are looking at for Churches in the area, which is why they can list Roman Catholic Churches under either “Roman Catholic” or “Catholic” category – or the Church/parish themselves may have asked to be listed under both “Roman” and “Catholic” listings.
 
Well, normally it DOES mean the same thing BUT there are different rites (not denominations) of the Catholic Church (as in Churches that are in communion with Rome and hold Catholic doctrine):

Western/Latin Rite
  • Roman Catholic Church (Charismatic Catholics, I think fit into this category, correct me if I’m wrong)
Eastern Rite
Some times Eastern Rite Catholics identify as “Roman Catholic” while others do not…
  • Armenian Catholic Church
  • Belarusian Greek Catholic Church
  • Bulgarian Catholic Church
  • Chaldean Catholic Church
  • Coptic Catholic Church
  • Croatian Greek Catholic Church
  • Ethiopian Catholic Church
  • Georgian Catholic Church
  • Greek Catholic Church
  • Hungarian Greek Catholic Church
  • Italo-Albanian Catholic Church
  • Macedonian Catholic Church
  • Maronite Catholic Church
  • Melkite Catholic Church
  • Romanian Catholic Church
  • Russian Catholic Church
  • Ruthenian Catholic Church (usually called the “Byzantine Catholic Church” in the United States)
  • Slovak Greek Catholic Church
  • Syrian Catholic Church
  • Syro-Malabar Church
  • Syro-Malankara Catholic Church
  • Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church
**And then there are “the breakaways”… **
These are those who, unlike Protestants, hold Catholic doctrine but, like Protestants, broke off and found their own Church, watch out for these…
  • Apostolic Catholic Church
  • American Catholic Church in the United States
  • Bosnian Church (no longer in existence)
  • Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church
  • Catholic Charismatic Church of Canada (which isn’t the “Charismatics” I talked about earlier)
  • Celtic Catholic Church
  • Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association
  • Communion of Christ the Redeemer
  • Free Catholic Church
  • Liberal Catholic Church
  • Mariavite Church
  • Old Catholic Church
  • Old Catholic Church of America
  • Old Catholic Church in Europe
  • Palmarian Catholic Church
  • Philippine Independent Church
  • Polish National Catholic Church
  • Sedevacantists
  • Spiritus Christi
  • True Catholic Church
Quick question, where would the SSPX be under?
 
I’ve always heard that Roman Catholic is a pejorative used by Protestants.
Thats mostly a myth peddled by some, Yes it was used as a perjorative in some countries but the church had referred to herself as ‘Roman and Catholic’ or ‘Roman Catholic’ since long before this.
 
Just to point out, there is no such thing as the Latin Rite, the ‘Latin Church’ uses four different rites and in the past had many more 😉
So when my Baptismal certificate says I was baptized according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church, does that make me a Catholic or a Roman Catholic according to the Church even if it does not on a forum?
 
So when my Baptismal certificate says I was baptized according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church, does that make me a Catholic or a Roman Catholic according to the Church even if it does not on a forum?
Depends who you ask. I would say it makes you part of The Catholic Church AND the particular ‘Latin’ Church. I can’t think that those baptised in the Ambrosian, Dominican or Mozarabic rite’s become part of the Ambrosian, Dominican or Mozarabaic church, primarily because there is no such thing.
 
Depends who you ask. I would say it makes you part of The Catholic Church AND the particular ‘Latin’ Church. I can’t think that those baptised in the Ambrosian, Dominican or Mozarabic rite’s become part of the Ambrosian, Dominican or Mozarabaic church, primarily because there is no such thing.
Well I have found the “depends on who you ask” part to be true. Maybe I could make that my religion.
 
Quick question, where would the SSPX be under?
The SSPX is a Society, not a Rite or Church. They are Latin-Rite priests who do not have full privileges in the Latin Church. A very complicated subject, you can Google it for more info.
 
Thats mostly a myth peddled by some, Yes it was used as a perjorative in some countries but the church had referred to herself as ‘Roman and Catholic’ or ‘Roman Catholic’ since long before this.
Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?
 
So when my Baptismal certificate says I was baptized according to the rite of the Roman Catholic Church, does that make me a Catholic or a Roman Catholic according to the Church even if it does not on a forum?
If you wished to return at some point to the faith into which you were baptized, you would automatically be considered a Roman Catholic. If you choose to return to the Catholic Church under a different rite, you would been permission from both your bishops to change rites.

You have been asked not to put yourself forth as a Catholic here on CAF because you no longer espouse Catholic faith, and it causes a scandal when non-Catholic answers are offered by a person who calls themselves a Catholic, but is non- or anti Catholic in faith.
 
Prescript: I must apologise for the stream of consciousness. I shall not edit it. It was mostly a thought directed at myself. I have just returned from the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite and I have a gut plenty with Mystic Monk Coffee sweetened with agave honey. Agave as we know is the noble and many-pointed plant associated with Our Lady of Tepeyac, known as the Guadelupe of the Americas. You see, I have been delighted by some literature clarifying the following subject particularly in regards to the poor souls of the Gehenna of Purgatory, many of whom have not the least inkling as to their spiritual state, thinking themselves damned to hell, so far are they from repaying their debts. We must pray for them. It is November.

All Catholics are Roman. This is plain and simple. Pope Benedict XVI wrote about this very topic. He went on to describe filial devotion to the object of worship known as the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, Who is Christ and of Whom Mary is mother, Mother of the Eucharist, Mother of God.

In his fallible words as it was not a declaration but his understanding. The phrase Roman indicates that we are all Mary’s children, grafted onto Her, the Tree of Life.

Some may protest these words but we should consider that every Baptism conferred in a non-Eucharistic, non-Marian community (Read: non-Catholic and/or non-Orthodox) is still participating in the Roman Catholic Church. These persons being Baptised are being Baptised into the Roman Catholic Church, through Whom the many are saved, and without Whom none are saved.

Most Christians fail to understand these demarcations. Let us say, if a Christian habitates in North America, he is quite likely to participating in the Roman Rite (Latin Rite) although there are many who belong to other Liturgical rites. All participate in the Roman Rite to one degree or another. Even the Methodist, or the Presbyterian, or the ana-Baptist, et cetra all participate in the Roman Rite. They perhaps are no cognisciant of this but it is the reality insomuch as we have demonstrated with the Rite of Baptism. The practices of non-Roman, non-Catholic rites might be somewhat distorted what but we should recognise that they are brethren. Lesser brethren they are to be sure. The affinity of Andrew the younger brother, and Peter the elder brother is such that though appearances might differ and particular understanding might differ these two elder sons of Mary are sufficient one that they are together substantial Roman.
 
Quick question, where would the SSPX be under?
I’m still trying to figure out what they’re all about myself…:o teehee
The SSPX is a Society, not a Rite or Church. They are Latin-Rite priests who do not have full privileges in the Latin Church. A very complicated subject, you can Google it for more info.
But wait are they breakaways or are they in communion with the Pope? Are they Sedevacantists?
I have just returned from the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite and I have a gut plenty with Mystic Monk Coffee sweetened with agave honey.
Oddly, that sounds good right about now O_o
 
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