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Haircrew
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Can a preist go to ,say a mansion / reception hall and perform a wedding? I thought he couldn’t, but that’s whats happening at my husbands cousins wedding:shrug:
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Br.Rich_SFO
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No, the Church requires that the Sacrament of Marriage take place in a church building (Catholic or protestant).
Can. 1118~1 A marriage between catholics, or between a catholic party and a baptised non-catholic, is to be celebrated in the parish church. By permission of the local Ordinary or of the parish priest, it may be celebrated in another church or oratory.
~2 The local Ordinary can allow a marriage to be celebrated in another suitable place.
~3 A marriage between a catholic party and an unbaptised party may be celebrated in a church or in another suitable place.
I understand that most bishops do not allow the Sacrament to take place outdoors. There may be other very limited exceptions that would require a Bishops permission. For instance a person already planning to Marry and completed all necessary pre-marriage requirements is injured seriously the days before the wedding. Persission could be granted, possibly even by the pastor, that the Marriage take place in the hospital before major surgery is to take place. Just an off the wall example.
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Haircrew
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I am pretty sure they had a preist marrying them at this mansion/reception hall.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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In my modified post “another suitable place” would have to be interpreted by the local Bishop. My experience says that it is highly unlikely that permission was granted. It is not uncommon for people to hire “rent-a-priests” for such occasions. Which brings the validity of the Marriage into question.
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JimR-OCDS
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I don’t believe that a Mass has to be celebrated at a Catholic marriage. I believe that a Mass is optional, but I’m not exactly sure on this.
If its is so, perhaps this is how a marriage can be performed at a Mansion/reception hall?
Jim
If its is so, perhaps this is how a marriage can be performed at a Mansion/reception hall?
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Haircrew
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I think it was just a marraige ceremony , diffinitely not a mass , it was held at a mansion/reception hall and it was a preist that married them there,
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PatienceAndLove
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If your cousin, or the cousin’s significant other were un-baptized, than it is possible that they were able to get married at the mansion/reception hall.
If they are catholic, or catholic and baptized non-Catholic: then there is a question regarding the validity of the marriage.
If they are catholic, or catholic and baptized non-Catholic: then there is a question regarding the validity of the marriage.
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stbruno
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Unfortunately, we have some priests who have left the active priesthood…or where forcibly removed and yet they still continue to ask as ministers of the church, devoid of permission or faculties to perform a wedding. They now hire themselves out on cruises, wedding chapels, mansions as their mean of employment as rent-a-priests. You can even check, some of them advertise on personal websites. Sad but very true.
Most couples do not recognize the difference…and their marriage is not registered in the Catholic church in any place…i.e. parish records. My suggestion is to drop a gentle hint…because truly this is not a sacramental marriage. catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=21117
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Haircrew
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I know he is catholic, that is why I was surprised to hear that he was getting married at a reception hall and not the chuch, that’s when they said that he was getting married by a preist, there.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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No, the Rite of Marriage does not need to be celebrated within a Mass. I read it as requiring the Sacrament of Marriage to be celebrated in a church, if the Rite is within a Mass or not dosn’t matter. As noted by someone else between a Catholic and an non-baptized person may be celebrated at another place with the Bishops permissions and proper dispensations.
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drafdog
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The sacrament is ministered by the two parties to the contract; the priest is there only as the official witness on behalf of the church. The priest does nothing during the ceremony except verify that the pledges of the couple as spoken meet the requirements for the sacramentality of the union. As to the physical location of the ceremony, as a previous poster pointed out, it is optional provided that pastoral permission is obtained. What the ordinary will look for is a setting which reflects the solemnity of the sacrament. He won’t likely approve a dance club or a tavern, but a conference hall or reception hall may be okay. Always give benefit of the doubt in favor of the parties involved and don’t go second guessing people who are acting in good faith.
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puzzleannie
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it is possible, with permission of the bishop, but highly unlikely unless there is a very good reason, compelling, overriding all other considerations. A priest may not do this on his own initiative, and no, the location of the wedding is not optional. The bishop is the one person who interprets canon law on sacraments.
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chicago
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I don’t think the validity of the marriage would necessarily be called into question because of this. Only the licidness o fthe ceremony.If they are catholic, or catholic and baptized non-Catholic: then there is a question regarding the validity of the marriage.
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chicago
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Is he a practicing Catholic, or just a baptized one?
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Br.Rich_SFO
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That make no difference.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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There is not enough specific information to determine either.
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