Catholic word game: Old vs New

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cccw2009 said:
I must be the only one that finds the term “girl alter boys” offensive. maybe I’m just too sensitive but why can’t they be referred to as alter girls or just girl alter servers?
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“Girl alter[sic] boys” is understandably offensive. (alter = change)

Now “girl altar boys” is funny. 🙂
 
Onegin said:
How is it in any way offensive? It may not be the common usage of the word but how on earth can you derive an offensive meaning from it? :confused:
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Easily. By saying “Girl Altar Boys” the assumption is that “Altar Boys” is the only and correct thing and “Girl Altar Boys” are simply girls who are trying to be something they are not or can never be. Compare that to “Girl Altar Servers”, which is offensive to no one.

It might be the same way some here would feel if the list included:
“Traditional Catholics”
“Real Catholics”
 
TheDoctor said:
Easily. By saying “Girl Altar Boys” the assumption is that “Altar Boys” is the only and correct thing and “Girl Altar Boys” are simply girls who are trying to be something they are not or can never be. Compare that to “Girl Altar Servers”, which is offensive to no one.

It might be the same way some here would feel if the list included:
“Traditional Catholics”
“Real Catholics”
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^^Exactly my point.^^

And “girl alter boy” just makes no sense. Just say alter girl rather you agree with girl servers or not.
 
I believe that the Doctor hit the nail right on the head when he said that Altar Boys are the only way to go, and that girls who “serve at the Altar” are out of place. They can never be ordained, and Traditionally serving at the Altar is the seed-bed of Vocations to the Priesthood.
 
maurin said:
The only thing I have to complain about, Lily, is your second paragraph, and its unlikeness to anything I"ve said. In his encyclical Pascendi St Pius X points out than when a modernist is confronted with certain truths with which he doesn’t agree his emotions run the gamut between feigned horror, hurt, anf then they go into attack.

He was spot on. Maybe why he was Canonized.
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In that case, my dear maurin, you are certainly a closet modernist, for he’s described you to a tee. As he has certain people in every part of the spectrum of belief - for the attitude is fully as common among all of them.

Indeed he was wise - I pray you will profit by recognising that the attitude he describes is every bit as unproductive when exhibited in traditionalists such as yourself (who exhibits it constantly), as it is in anyone else.
 
maurin said:
I believe that the Doctor hit the nail right on the head when he said that Altar Boys are the only way to go, and that girls who “serve at the Altar” are out of place. They can never be ordained, and Traditionally serving at the Altar is the seed-bed of Vocations to the Priesthood.
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This I agree on. Back in the old days, one of the names for the servers at the Mozarabic Rite in Spain was clericuli (‘little clerics’): boys or young men who wished to pursue an ecclesiastical career and were thus tonsured at a young age.
 
LilyM said:
In that case, my dear maurin, you are certainly a closet modernist, for he’s described you to a tee. As he has certain people in every part of the spectrum of belief - for the attitude is fully as common among all of them.

Indeed he was wise - I pray you will profit by recognising that the attitude he describes is every bit as unproductive when exhibited in traditionalists such as yourself (who exhibits it constantly), as it is in anyone else.
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You’ve missed your mark, Lilly. Nice effort, though.
 
patrick457 said:
Oops, I’m sorry. 😦
But then again, I do feel that in some areas - not all, mind - the idea of the sanctity of the altar area, that it’s not just some location inside the church to which anyone can casually approach that happened to have a ‘table’ in it, is disappearing along with the general distinction between the ‘sacred’ and ‘profane’.

And nope, I meant the priest. I know that all terms are technically correct, but which usage is older: a priest ‘celebrating’ the Mass, ‘offering’ the Mass, or ‘praying’ the Mass?
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When I grew up in the 1950’s the term commonly used was “saying Mass”. Father: “I am saying the 10 AM Mass.” Parishoner: “A missionary priest is saying the 9 AM Mass.” “So and so is saying his first Mass today.”
 
cccw2009 said:
I must be the only one that finds the term “girl alter boys” offensive. maybe I’m just too sensitive but why can’t they be referred to as alter girls or just girl alter servers?
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There is no such thing as a GIRL being an Altar BOY. Biologically not possible. Maybe not offensive, just not sensible.
 
maurin said:
I believe that the Doctor hit the nail right on the head when he said that Altar Boys are the only way to go, and that girls who “serve at the Altar” are out of place. They can never be ordained, and Traditionally serving at the Altar is the seed-bed of Vocations to the Priesthood.
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That’s not what I said. Please go back and reread my post. I was pointing out why it is easy for some to find the term “Girl Altar Boys” offensive as it is a back-of-the-hand put down of women.

Now as to me, I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves at the altar, boy or girl, man or woman, old or young as long as they serve in conformance to the rubrics and rules.
 
Thank you for your correction, Doctor. Amend my statent to read that the Doctor inadvertently made a good point…
 
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