Catholicism and Fundamentalism, 30 years later

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While it may not be as big of a deal as it used to be, the Fundamentalists that Keating described do still exist. I’m in my mid 30s now, and grew up with that mindset. Keating’s book was very useful to me when I read it about ten years ago. And while I am no longer a Fundamental Baptist, my mom still is. She’s even sent me Chick Tracts in the mail! I’ve thought about revisiting the book myself.
 
I suppose it depends on what you’re looking at. All I’d take my experience to mean is that there are certainly such anti-Catholic groups out there, and the teaching in them can be what’s described.

I certainly wouldn’t take it as representative of mainline protestantism - I had some very good supports in my conversion to Catholicism in protestants of various stripes.
What you say is very true. If my child wants to become Catholic for sincere reasons and feel he is closer to God this way I would support that. If he goes on a rethoric about “I am right and you are wrong” well that would be something totally different. Same can be said for the other way around in this case.

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What you say is very true. If my child wants to become Catholic for sincere reasons and feel he is closer to God this way I would support that. If he goes on a rethoric about “I am right and you are wrong” well that would be something totally different. Same can be said for the other way around in this case.

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What you say is very true. If my child wants to become Catholic for sincere reasons and feel he is closer to God this way I would support that. If he goes on a rethoric about “I am right and you are wrong” well that would be something totally different. Same can be said for the other way around in this case.

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I agree with this, also. I am seriously considering Catholicism for myself because I envision it as possibly deepening and enhancing my faith in Christ.

However, my wife and kids don’t share my attitude about Catholicism and prefer their evangelical Protestant faith experience, and so I would never try to force them to follow me unless they are led by the Holy Spirit to do so.

I don’t consider my faith superior to theirs and they don’t consider theirs superior to mine. I think it’s more of a case where the Lord meets us where we are and knows what’s best for us. I believe He will lead us to where He wants us to be where we can achieve our maximum potential as a Christian, and it isn’t always the same place for everyone, although I know there are those on both sides of the Catholic/Protestant demarcation line who would disagree with that.

I will only say that I’ve seen former Protestants who appear to have blossomed in their Christian faith since becoming Catholic and I’ve seen the opposite occur, as well, and I’ve also seen Catholics and Protestants who never switched who are doing fine, too.
 
The Catholic Faith is a series of beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church is a specific institution to which people belong. Some people who accept most, or all, Catholic beliefs, and even may identify themselves as Catholic, are in other churches; for instance, the Continuum or LCMS. Some Eastern Orthodox identify themselves as Catholics.

G. K. Chesterton probably believed most or all Catholic belief for many years before he became Catholic, probably because his wife was Anglican, and not ready to swim the Tiber. (Both eventually did). I had a few friends who left the Catholic Church. About once a year. 🙂 But when I would talk to them, they still hold most of the assumptions of Catholicism, perhaps without realizing it.

Many would go to Pentecostal church services half the time, and RC services half the time.

I have known others who have - mostly - left the Catholic Faith, but not the Church. They may hold employment in Catholic institutions. Or even if they are volunteers in some ministry, they may regard themselves as kind of missionaries - sort of using their position to get the Church to change its position, from the inside; often to support women’s ordination, Peace and Justice, etc.

This was a much bigger issue a few decades ago than now, as many of that generation have passed away. Young people who have radical or even very liberal mindset don’t even enter the convent or religious life today.

Again, it makes a difference whether Catholics leave the Catholic Faith (or Catholic Church) to go Protestant, or to go secular. Sometimes it is gradual, sometimes it can be some of both Protestant and secular. I knew a few who feel the “need” to worship somewhere on Sunday, even if they don’t particularly identify with the Protestant or Catholic church they happen to visit. There’s the music, the religious setting, some connection here with other people. Nothing to do with theology.

They may even bring their kids to Christmas at church, or even a little Sunday School as long as it is liberal and non specific, because “kids need something like religion growing up”. In his autobiography C. S. Lewis described his tutor who had left behind all vestiges of his Christian, Presbyterian upbringing, except that he always dressed a little formally on Sunday.
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Thank you for explaining that. I can see what you mean.
 
I agree with this, also. I am seriously considering Catholicism for myself because I envision it as possibly deepening and enhancing my faith in Christ.

However, my wife and kids don’t share my attitude about Catholicism and prefer their evangelical Protestant faith experience, and so I would never try to force them to follow me unless they are led by the Holy Spirit to do so.

I don’t consider my faith superior to theirs and they don’t consider theirs superior to mine. I think it’s more of a case where the Lord meets us where we are and knows what’s best for us. I believe He will lead us to where He wants us to be where we can achieve our maximum potential as a Christian, and it isn’t always the same place for everyone, although I know there are those on both sides of the Catholic/Protestant demarcation line who would disagree with that.

I will only say that I’ve seen former Protestants who appear to have blossomed in their Christian faith since becoming Catholic and I’ve seen the opposite occur, as well, and I’ve also seen Catholics and Protestants who never switched who are doing fine, too.
I remember a minister once saying that he wished people would have been as interested in being involved in their old church as they seem to be when they join a new group. People are very interesting. Like a widower who never held his first wife’s hand in public etc but sure falls all over the one he is courting to be his second wife.
 
In terms of denomination switching, the thing we often forget is to *love *people: those who switch from Protestant to Catholic, Catholic to Protestant, or Protestant to Protestant. I realize “love” is sometimes misused to justify heresy, but the fact that it is sometimes misused, does not eliminate the proper importance of it.

Christ came out of love for each individual person. While I do not think each denomination has an equal measure and reliability of teaching the fullness of truth, yet *my *first responsibility is to offer the fullness of love to each person regardless of where they sit on Sunday mornings. It is hard for me to remember that.
 
In terms of denomination switching, the thing we often forget is to *love *people: those who switch from Protestant to Catholic, Catholic to Protestant, or Protestant to Protestant. I realize “love” is sometimes misused to justify heresy, but the fact that it is sometimes misused, does not eliminate the proper importance of it.

Christ came out of love for each individual person. While I do not think each denomination has an equal measure and reliability of teaching the fullness of truth, yet *my *first responsibility is to offer the fullness of love to each person regardless of where they sit on Sunday mornings. It is hard for me to remember that.
Very good point. I have my baggage. Everyone has their baggage and they take it with them wherever they go. Sometimes it is hard to remenber we are called to love which is different than just being nice or tolerating.
 
If we all understood that we will be neighbors in Purgatory, we’d make more effort to be reconciled now.

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Very good point. I have my baggage. Everyone has their baggage and they take it with them wherever they go. Sometimes it is hard to remenber we are called to love which is different than just being nice or tolerating.
The hardest time it is to love people is when they switch from your denomination, to another. Down deep we really want to say “You’ll be sooorrrry”.
 
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