Catholicism is unorthodox?

[Angelic_Rose]

I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

"U***northodox teachings or discussing specific doctrines of ANY of these religions ******will be moved to ***the “World Religions” Forum"

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.

 

[Wesley7]

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[Garyjohn2]

This is very strange, and sad.

 

[Mumbles140]

Not that I agree at all with their decision, perhaps the Catholic inclusion on the list dealt more with the discussion of ‘specific doctrines’ then the declaration of Catholicism as unorthodox. Either way, if they aren’t willing to engage in spiritual discussions with Catholics, what does that tell you about how they view their own faith?

 

[manualman]

The only generalization you can make about protestant doctrine is that you can’t generalize. That said there are an AWFUL lot of protestant communities that rank catholicism alongside Mormonism as distortions of christianity rather than actual expressions of christianity.

After you get over the initial unpleasant emotional reaction to that, it isn’t really all that hard to understand WHY they take that position. Indeed, if they believed in free will, Grace being transmitted through the Sacraments, the genuine physical presence of Christ in the Eucharist, Apostolic succession and authority, the value of liturgy, the relationship between faith and behavior, and the communion of saints they’d be nearly ready to become catholic!

The fact is that we have some significantly different beliefs.

 

[mark_a]

I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.

I’m always curious about how they react to Orthodox.

 

[IntegraCatholic]

It’s surprising when one knows the truth, but it isn’t surprising when one looks at it from the perspective of their heresy. The most ostentatious example of the differences must be their denial of the sacrificial nature of the Mass and the divine authority of the clergy through apostolic succession. These sorts of things (including all the Sacraments) are in direct contradiction to their heresy.

What is surprising to me (and I’m not being antagonistic to anyone who has said anything here) is that “Catholics” are so oblivious to the obvious impossible compatibility of the heresies of Protestantism with the true faith. Most Protestants (with the marked exceptions of most “interdenominational” groups, but they have already denied the principle of non-contradiction in practice) still recognize this impossibility. This is why the Church has always forbidden any sort of mixed worship with those who do not have faith (and, traditionally, even any contact with them outside of necessity). They have another cult. It is impossible to reconcile it to the faith and to the truth. While it is true that someone needs to reach out to them in order to help them convert, which was traditionally done by the clergy and with good reason, as we see in the indifferentism of lay Catholics since they have been associating with non-Catholics on a regular basis.

 

[choy]

I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.

i’m Christian. you’re not Christian, you’re Catholic

how many times do we hear that? sigh…

 

[Wesley7]

When I say ‘Christian’ I mean it in terms that is within the fullness of Christianity.

You can also be Roman Catholic and be orthodox.

 

[Marc_Anthony]

I’ve been an avid Christian forum participant since 2001— the forums that I have come across have helped me immensely to grow as a Christian, since while my Mother tried her best, my parents did not bring me up in a Christian home.

Since becoming Catholic in 2005, I’m noticing that I’m not allowed at most Christian discussion forums. As soon as people find out I’m Catholic, I feel as if they turn against what I have to say or at least don’t see anything positive in what I have to say. Today, for example, I came across a site saying the following…

And “Roman Catholicism” was listed under as one of THOSE religions.

I’m shocked that so many Christians don’t realize where their faith comes from. One of the reasons why I was drawn to Catholicism was because of the Church’s roots. Since when are Protestant beliefs the “orthodox” beliefs?

I’m having happy to have a home like Catholic Answers, but I do feel sad for not feeling welcomed where I once was.

I would like to invite you to Theologica.

since Ryan, who also posts on Catholic Answers, has recruited people, there are a pretty good amount of atholics at Theologica. However, it’s mostly a reformist website. That said, while most of the people there don’t LIKE Catholicism, they do tolerate us pretty well.

I invite you to join our Catholicism group on the site.

theologica.ning.com/

I hope to see you there.

 

[RyanBlack]

It’s surprising when one knows the truth, but it isn’t surprising when one looks at it from the perspective of their heresy. The most ostentatious example of the differences must be their denial of the sacrificial nature of the Mass and the divine authority of the clergy through apostolic succession. These sorts of things (including all the Sacraments) are in direct contradiction to their heresy.

What is surprising to me (and I’m not being antagonistic to anyone who has said anything here) is that “Catholics” are so oblivious to the obvious impossible compatibility of the heresies of Protestantism with the true faith. Most Protestants (with the marked exceptions of most “interdenominational” groups, but they have already denied the principle of non-contradiction in practice) still recognize this impossibility. This is why the Church has always forbidden any sort of mixed worship with those who do not have faith (and, traditionally, even any contact with them outside of necessity). They have another cult. It is impossible to reconcile it to the faith and to the truth. While it is true that someone needs to reach out to them in order to help them convert, which was traditionally done by the clergy and with good reason, as we see in the indifferentism of lay Catholics since they have been associating with non-Catholics on a regular basis.

I for one am thankful for all those indifferent lay Catholic who are willing to associate with non-Catholics. Otherwise, I’m quite sure that I would still be Protestant. No Catholic priest or deacon ever took any initiative to reach out to me to help me convert.

 

[IntegraCatholic]

I for one am thankful for all those indifferent lay Catholic who are willing to associate with non-Catholics. Otherwise, I’m quite sure that I would still be Protestant. No Catholic priest or deacon ever took any initiative to reach out to me to help me convert.

Because the people who are doing what the clergy ought to be doing are getting married instead of going into clerical or religious life. If the proper context were maintained for this, those who have an urge to evangelize would end up following a vocation, which would greatly aid in the vocations crisis. The same can be said of the permanent married diaconate. Were this not permitted, many of these men would be priests.

 

[wisdomseeker]

I am not surprised by this, since even many Catholics have left the Church to be protestants and preaches against the Church also.

i just had an encounter with an ex Catholic and she now is a baptist. she begin to tell me how now she found the Truth. when i asked her what made her leave the Church; she told me that it was the Bible. she told the scales fell off her eyes. i am not going to argue with about the Faith, but i can see her trying to show me the way, she even gave me tapes of the Joe Olsteen. i had to take since she is being very nice, but i am not going to even bother with it. when i give her the tapes back, i will have make up some story.

it is amazing to me how many Catholics claim that the Church does not know anything about the Bible. of course they are told by protestants and they just buy into it.

she is 48 yrs old. years in which Catholics were not tought the Faith and protestants took great advantage of this time and turned many Catholics against the Church.

 

[Angelic_Rose]

i’m Christian. you’re not Christian, you’re Catholic

how many times do we hear that? sigh…

When I told a very close Christian (Protestant) friend this (who I’ve known for 5+ years) that I was becoming Catholic, she asked me “So… you’re not Christian anymore?” I was just shocked! I wanted to tell her “Where do you think Christianity started?” but I think I was too surprised.

It took me going to a small Christian cafe concert for her to realize that I was still Christian. I always feel like I have to prove my faith to my close Protestant friends.

 

[RyanBlack]

This is why the Church has always forbidden any sort of mixed worship with those who do not have faith (and, traditionally, even any contact with them outside of necessity).

So now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant?

 

[mark_a]

So now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant?

It’s usually not the new Catholic’s choice if he is leaving PCA, most types of Baptists, AOG, Islam, LDS, and others. That decision will be made by others.

 

[RyanBlack]

It’s usually not the new Catholic’s choice if he is leaving PCA, most types of Baptists, AOG, Islam, LDS, and others. That decision will be made by others.

Well, that has not been the case for me. My Protestant relatives and friends have not abandoned me. Furthermore, they are very fond of my Catholic wife. So, again, I ask, now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant? BTW, the Protestant relatives and friends to whom I refer are mainly Southern Baptists.

 

[mark_a]

So, again, I ask, now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant? BTW, the Protestant relatives and friends to whom I refer are mainly Southern Baptists.

Absolutely not. That would seem very un-Christian to me.

 

[IntegraCatholic]

So now that I’m Catholic, I’m supposed to abandon my relationships with my parents, my sister and her children, my aunts, uncles, cousins, and life-long friends who are Protestant?

Traditionally, outside of case of necessity, yes. They will only be a bad influence on you and your future family. Consider making good Catholic friends that will aid you in living the spiritual life. Heck, I try to avoid my nominally Catholic extended family as much as possible. It is terrible for children to see that sort of indifference in the practice of the faith or in the choice of following the true faith or not. That being said, not all heretics are excommunicatus vitandus, in fact, very few are.

 

[Advocatus_Fidei]

The protestants only came into existence to oppose the Catholic Church, as such it should be no surprise that they hate Catholics and reject you for your Faith, it is one of the few things that they all hold in common.