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Ted_in_Charlott
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I would like to post links to articles on another forum for a Catholic considering con(re)verting to Islam. If there are sites that are not civil please do not post. Thanks and Peace to you all.
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katy_kt
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There are many differences between Catholicism and Islam: belief in the divinity of Jesus, the crucifixion and resurrection etc. There are many differences.
Why is this person thinking of converting to Islam? Is it because he/she is having difficulties in certain catholic beliefs, or something just doesn’t make sense. What does he/she find appealing in Islam? Its beliefs or something else.
Why is this person thinking of converting to Islam? Is it because he/she is having difficulties in certain catholic beliefs, or something just doesn’t make sense. What does he/she find appealing in Islam? Its beliefs or something else.
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Ted_in_Charlott
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Thanks for the response.
I was hoping their were links to other websites that had done all the work. The divinity of Jesus is what makes a Christian a Christian. I was looking for other differences and similarities.
Peace
I was hoping their were links to other websites that had done all the work. The divinity of Jesus is what makes a Christian a Christian. I was looking for other differences and similarities.
Peace
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Rayaan
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It would be better to help the person revert to Islam and find peace for his/her soul…
I will post some excellant islamic sites with lots of info fr him/her which you can pass on…
All you will get here is a list of anti-islam propaganda sites
I will post some excellant islamic sites with lots of info fr him/her which you can pass on…
All you will get here is a list of anti-islam propaganda sites
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AmbroseSJ
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Are we to understand that this person was Muslim to begin with, then converted to Catholicism, and now is wanting to return to Islam? If so, it would help to know what his difficulties are. Otherwise, we can not understand what sort of website links you are looking for. 
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Mjae
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I believe the term ‘revert’ is used because Islam considers everyone is actually created (?) as a muslim. Belonging to another faith is simply an accident of birth or circumstance, hence if someone converts to Islam, they are in actuality, reverting to their original faith. Please correct me if I have this wrong.
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rien
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I agree. The dis-unity of Chritianity is maybe one of the reasons this convert wants to go back ti islam. A failry common story.
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Ignatius
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Actually, Protestantism is almost a clone of Islam. Muslums are Sola Scriptura, believing the koran is the sole rule of faith. They believe each individual can make personal interpretation and the leader of every congregation is the final authority. And, finally, there is no official authority on the correct interpretation of Scripture.
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mark_a
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The disunity among Christians?!?!?!?!?
Quarrelling about confession or Mary is not the same as detonating a belt full of explosives in a crowded market.
These problems with radical Islam will force Christians together. Protestantism will realize that inquisitions and Crusades are not as one-sided as Protestantism has led us to believe.
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SedesDomi
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Not so long ago, in Europe, Christian-vs-Christian violence was quite common.
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umerazad
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Ted - Following talk by a muslim scholar give a fairly comprehensive view of similarities between Islam and Christianity:
[Part 1] youtube.com/watch?v=0X06jlhJbQk
[Part 2] youtube.com/watch?v=g7WfwVF-YQY
There is a question answer session at the end of part 2 that might help as well.
Cheers,
Umer
[Part 1] youtube.com/watch?v=0X06jlhJbQk
[Part 2] youtube.com/watch?v=g7WfwVF-YQY
There is a question answer session at the end of part 2 that might help as well.
Cheers,
Umer
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R_not
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One difference that I notice is that we don’t segregate. the youtube videos that I see above allow segregation. Never mind that segregation is against the law in the USA - we still don’t segregate as a Church.
Another difference is that mohammed was not a Christian nor a Jew, but a pagan of his time. allah was one of a pantheon of gods that he, and his fellow pagans of his religion, worshiped.
Most of the problems we have in even asking this question is that most have not read the koran, or hadiths. if they did they would read the Bible stories in the koran and see how kludgy they are. mohammed did not know the Bible stories except for what he heard - he was illiterate.
There is no tie between islam, Christianity or Judaism. It was mohammed’s wish to convert those peoples to his new religion.
One thing that is notable that stands out among the differences is that we are taught to love our neighbor. Muslims are not taught that.
It is why in muslim lands, under sharia law, that there is so much violence against non-muslims. In fact, if a person does not convert (and didn’t die - yet) then they are considered a subjugated people (dhimmi).
I am not writing this to start arguments. I am writing this because people are not reading the koran and hadiths to find this out for themselves. The koran is not an easy book to read, not only because of the lack of order in the book, but also because some of the surahs have been abrogated (replaced) by the newer surahs. (The Meccan, peaceful surahs, have been replaced by the Medina, more violent, surahs).
islam is a religion that controls a person’s total being. Catholicism does not. We are able to separate church and state. In countries where there is a majority of Christians/Catholics you will see a more tolerant society towards people of other faiths. In muslim based/sharia law countries you do not see that same tolerance.
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R_not
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the difference is that the laws of the land are different between Judeo-Christian laws and sharia law. We made a lot of mistakes in our history, but we have learned and changed. Our laws take perpetrators of violence and metes out punishment AFTER a trial by a jury. If a muslim, in a muslim land with sharia law, commits violence against non-muslims - there is no punishment meted out against the perpetrator. Infidels have less rights than even muslim women and muslim women have 1/2 the rights of a muslim male.
Here is an article about sharia laws and some of them are printed out in the article:
frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=8AD3D2F1-FD2C-4E78-B233-2F97FCF97B94
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umerazad
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Yes, this is a correct observation. Islam believes in segregation of sexes.
Sir, I’ll differ with your opinion here. The family of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the follower of the religion of Abraham (PBUH). Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (the elder son of Abraham (PBUH)) and the family of Abd-Muttalib (grand-father of prophet Muhammad (PBUH)) was still following the basics of Abraham’s religion.
Secondly, Allah is the arabic equivalent of Hebrew word ‘Eli’ which means ‘Almighty God’. According to Christian tradition when Jesus (PBUH) was being crucified he said ‘Eli Eli la-ma sabakhtani’ meaning ‘Lord, Lord, why have you deserted me?’ If translated it in Arabic it would be ‘Allah Allah lama taraqtanee’.
Its true that prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was an unlettered man. He didn’t not know how to read or write. Koran is the literal word of Almighty God as revealed on prophet Muhammad (PBUH) over a period of 23 years. Well Koran is very unequivocal about certain things (like non-divinity of Christ) so I am not sure on what basis you can claim that its a copy of Bible.
Sir, you didn’t watch the talk
. Below is a small list of commonalities between Islam and Christianity:Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him). No muslim is a muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (PBUH).
We believe that Jesus (PBUH) was one of the mightiest messengers of Almighty God.
We believe that he was born miraculously without any male intervention.
We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.
We believe that he healed born blinds and lepers with God’s permission.
We muslims greet each other by saying ‘Assalam-o-Alaikum’ meaning ‘Peace be on you’. It is the arabic equivalent of hebrew phrase ‘Shalom aleichem’ which also means ‘Peace be upon you’. Its the same greeting that Jesus (PBUH) used to greet poeple. (Luke 24:36).
Male muslim children are circumcised in a very young age just like Jesus (PBUH) was circumcised on the 8th day.
And there are quite a few more. It would be unjust to say that there is nothing common between Islam and Christianity. Infact, off all the religions, Islam and Christianity are closest to each other. The only real parting of ways is on the topic of ‘divinity of Christ’. But this is a topic that has been beaten to death in other forums and people are just not willing to verify Islamic point of view.
Absolutely WRONG. Could you please provide me references where Muslims are asked to be hostile against their neighbors? Koran very explicitly commands muslims to love their neighbors. It reads:
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Chapter 4 verse 36: Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.
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Islam does not permit violence or use of force against non-muslims. It is very explicit when it says in Chapter 2:256 “There is no compulsion in religion…” and in Chapter 109:6 “To you is your religion and to me is mine”. I know that my Christian friends love to quote Chapter 9:5 out of context to spread this misconception that Islam promotes violence against non-muslims. Please read that verse along with verse 6 and also keep the context in mind that it was revealed when a peace treaty was violated by the non-muslim tribes. Please do read the verse 6 as well because that commanded the muslims what to do if someone from enemy seek refuge.
Yes, this is true that in a country under Shariya law, non-muslims are subjected to an additional tax but then goverment also guarantees the protection of the individual, including the individual’s life, property, and freedom of religion and worship. Trust me, in an Islamic society, a non-muslim would enjoy more freedom than ‘muslims’ in a non-muslim society. But overall their rights would be less than those of muslims. And that is the case everywhere. For example, in USA muslims are a minority and the US law supercedes Islamic law. An example would be ‘Inheritence’ laws if a muslim dies without writing a will.
Koran was revealed over a period of 23 years and the laws were enforced slowly as Islamic society evolved. It is not true that peaceful surahs have been replaced with violent surahs. In the initial period (i.e. Mecca) muslims were not even allowed to defend themselves but later in Madina when they became a sizable majority they had a right to defend themselves against external threats.
Its true that Islam is a complete system of life and it dictates how life must be spent. That’s why separation of religious and state authority isn’t possible in Islam. Islam preaches tolerance. If you want to judge a religion, then judge it based on what it teaches … not based on its followers. Unfortunately, as of today, Islam and muslims are a world apart. And this is same with Christianity or any other religion. There are many non-Christian things that are practiced by Christians these days. Just like it would be in-correct to judge Christianity based on modern day Christians … same is the case with Islam. If you want to learn about Islam read the scripture (i.e. Koran).
Cheers,
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R_not
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I do base it on what it teaches and its jihadists use it to justify their murder of many infidels, and their subjugation of them also.
The surahs you quote were abrogated by the Medina surahs. Please do not use those surahs.
Here is a good article on what the koran is all about:
thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
Some have picked out 164 verses of violence - the above article only has 109 verses.
There are so many verses that have abrogated the verse that you wrote:
73 020 Shakir: ‘fight in allah’s way’
76 008 Shakir: Muslims feed captives
25 052 Palmer: 'fight strenuously with ’ unbelievers ‘in many a strenuous fight’
16 110 Yusuf Ali: ‘who thereafter strive (jahadoo) and fight for the faith’
29 006 ‘whoever strives (Arabic: jahada), he strives (Arabic: yujahidu)’
42 039 ‘…who, when an injury is done to them, avenge themselves…’
2 178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244
64 014
8 001, 005, 007, 009-010, 015-017, 039-048, 057-060, 065-075
47 004, 020, 035
3 121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167, 169, 172-173, 195
61 004, 011, 013
4 071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095, 100-104, 144
59 002, 005-008, 014
33 015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050
63 004
24 053,055
22 039, 058, 078
48 015-024
66 009
60 009
49 015
9 005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029, 036, 038-039,
041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 081, 083, 086, 088, 092, 111, 120,
122-123
5 033, 035, 082
The examples of violence in muslim lands is even more extensive than the above surahs that sanction violence - and then the surahs that sanction deception to us infidels.
jihadwatch.org is a good place to visit for violence against the Copts in Egypt, the violence against the Hinudus in India/Kashmir, the violence against the Buddhists in Southeast Asia, the violence against Christians in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and elsewhere they live and used to live - and either had to flee or be subjugated (pay the jizya tax to the equavalent of what we call gangs so they are not killed, tortured, etc).
There are other websites, but that is a good place to start.
As for islam being Abrahamic - no, it is not. allah was based on the Arabic moon god which was warlike and of which mohammed was of the religion for the first 40 years of his life. The places that mohammed chose, the rites that he had you guys do are all based on the rites of his pagan religion. None of the others use a moon and a star as their symbol, or have a hajj with a stone, that a statue of allah used to reside and mohammed tore down, and run around it, spit, snort, throw stones, run to another rock, etc.
Read the post I posted about sharia law - that shows the treatment of not only infidels but of your own women (1/2 that of a man). History is not bearing out your premise that when muslims become a majority that there is peace within the land.
The surahs you quote were abrogated by the Medina surahs. Please do not use those surahs.
Here is a good article on what the koran is all about:
thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
Some have picked out 164 verses of violence - the above article only has 109 verses.
There are so many verses that have abrogated the verse that you wrote:
73 020 Shakir: ‘fight in allah’s way’
76 008 Shakir: Muslims feed captives
25 052 Palmer: 'fight strenuously with ’ unbelievers ‘in many a strenuous fight’
16 110 Yusuf Ali: ‘who thereafter strive (jahadoo) and fight for the faith’
29 006 ‘whoever strives (Arabic: jahada), he strives (Arabic: yujahidu)’
42 039 ‘…who, when an injury is done to them, avenge themselves…’
2 178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244
64 014
8 001, 005, 007, 009-010, 015-017, 039-048, 057-060, 065-075
47 004, 020, 035
3 121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167, 169, 172-173, 195
61 004, 011, 013
4 071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095, 100-104, 144
59 002, 005-008, 014
33 015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050
63 004
24 053,055
22 039, 058, 078
48 015-024
66 009
60 009
49 015
9 005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029, 036, 038-039,
041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 081, 083, 086, 088, 092, 111, 120,
122-123
5 033, 035, 082
The examples of violence in muslim lands is even more extensive than the above surahs that sanction violence - and then the surahs that sanction deception to us infidels.
jihadwatch.org is a good place to visit for violence against the Copts in Egypt, the violence against the Hinudus in India/Kashmir, the violence against the Buddhists in Southeast Asia, the violence against Christians in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and elsewhere they live and used to live - and either had to flee or be subjugated (pay the jizya tax to the equavalent of what we call gangs so they are not killed, tortured, etc).
There are other websites, but that is a good place to start.
As for islam being Abrahamic - no, it is not. allah was based on the Arabic moon god which was warlike and of which mohammed was of the religion for the first 40 years of his life. The places that mohammed chose, the rites that he had you guys do are all based on the rites of his pagan religion. None of the others use a moon and a star as their symbol, or have a hajj with a stone, that a statue of allah used to reside and mohammed tore down, and run around it, spit, snort, throw stones, run to another rock, etc.
Read the post I posted about sharia law - that shows the treatment of not only infidels but of your own women (1/2 that of a man). History is not bearing out your premise that when muslims become a majority that there is peace within the land.
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R_not
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‘Yes, this is true that in a country under Shariya law, non-muslims are subjected to an additional tax but then goverment also guarantees the protection of the individual, including the individual’s life, property, and freedom of religion and worship. Trust me, in an Islamic society, a non-muslim would enjoy more freedom than ‘muslims’ in a non-muslim society. But overall their rights would be less than those of muslims. And that is the case everywhere. For example, in USA muslims are a minority and the US law supercedes Islamic law. An example would be ‘Inheritence’ laws if a muslim dies without writing a will.’ by umerazad
This statement is not only false but if we were to discuss the koran, mohammed and allah in a muslim land - I would be ‘discontinued’.
Yes, US law supersedes sharia law because we have a separation of church and state. If you want to practice your religion - then do so - at your home, at your mosque. Not everyone wants to do so here - and we ask that you respect that in our country. What we are seeing though is something called ‘creeping shaira’.
Segregation is being brought back and it is because muslims see us as dirty, and even their own women as dirty. Segregation is totally against the law - if we did that against black people - we would be hearing more protests. But, because the muslims are demanding it - everyone is tip toeing around this issue. Not for long though. Enough people are having enough of that stuff. But, that is a different subject.
We are seeing hate literature in madrassas and mosques - and there is a huge outcry from us about that. Thank goodness these institutions are now being scrutinized more heavily.
All you have to do is follow the law and you can practice your religion, but what is happening it is being forced on us.
Why are you on these boards? I can tell you because you won’t tell us - da’wa. Here is the definition of da’wa:
**Definition: In Islam, da’wa means a “call” or “invitation,” and has been used to refer to a person being “called” to follow Islam. However, it has developed into the idea of a “mission” or “propaganda,” either in a political or religious sense. **
This statement is not only false but if we were to discuss the koran, mohammed and allah in a muslim land - I would be ‘discontinued’.
Yes, US law supersedes sharia law because we have a separation of church and state. If you want to practice your religion - then do so - at your home, at your mosque. Not everyone wants to do so here - and we ask that you respect that in our country. What we are seeing though is something called ‘creeping shaira’.
Segregation is being brought back and it is because muslims see us as dirty, and even their own women as dirty. Segregation is totally against the law - if we did that against black people - we would be hearing more protests. But, because the muslims are demanding it - everyone is tip toeing around this issue. Not for long though. Enough people are having enough of that stuff. But, that is a different subject.
We are seeing hate literature in madrassas and mosques - and there is a huge outcry from us about that. Thank goodness these institutions are now being scrutinized more heavily.
All you have to do is follow the law and you can practice your religion, but what is happening it is being forced on us.
Why are you on these boards? I can tell you because you won’t tell us - da’wa. Here is the definition of da’wa:
**Definition: In Islam, da’wa means a “call” or “invitation,” and has been used to refer to a person being “called” to follow Islam. However, it has developed into the idea of a “mission” or “propaganda,” either in a political or religious sense. **
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R_not
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A common surah that muslims like to use when doing da’wa is surah 5:32. Well, we need to read 5:33 and 5:34 - that outlines the violence against non-muslims very specifically. It is not me who states this - it is the koran.
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YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
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YUSUFALI: Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
And then this surah is very interesting: surah 59. The whole chapter is full of violence against the non-muslims. Oh well, like I posted above - the koran is full of violence. It isn’t me saying these things - it is only me showing everyone what the koran says. If we listen to the muslims doing da’wa we will never know what is in the koran against non-muslims.
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YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
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YUSUFALI: Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case, know that Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
And then this surah is very interesting: surah 59. The whole chapter is full of violence against the non-muslims. Oh well, like I posted above - the koran is full of violence. It isn’t me saying these things - it is only me showing everyone what the koran says. If we listen to the muslims doing da’wa we will never know what is in the koran against non-muslims.
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Sam_777
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That is the problem, how do you know that it was revealed through Almighty God?, read this hadith and tell me why such angel would use that force & violence against Muhammed?
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
“…The Prophet added, “The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, ‘I do not know how to read.’ Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, ‘I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?’ Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.” (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah’s Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, “Cover me! Cover me!” They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, “I fear that something may happen to me.” Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones…”
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Why we would assume that the angel was Gabriel!, why not Satan himself to fulfill the prophecy in (Isaiah 14:12-14):
“How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.”
Not at all, its the other side around, Muhammed made Jesus the least messenger, I’m posting a new detailed thread on that soon.
No, there are many contradictions, here are some:
Bible:
01- Affirms Trinity (Matthew 28:18-20).
02- Jesus was crucified.
03- God calling Jesus his Son (Mark 1:11).
04- Polygamy is adultery (Matthew 19:3-12).
05- No marriage in Paradise, humans will be like angels (Matthew 22:30).
06- No killing of any sort (NT), Jesus was healing people.
07- Lots of miracles for Jesus.
08- God does not change his mind, and Jesus words never pass away (Numbers 23:19) & (Mark 13:31).
09- Jesus teaching us not to swear (James 5:12).
10- No eye for eye, (Matthew 5:38-39).
11- Jesus was born in a manger (Luke 2:11-12).
12- Christians are children of God (Matthew 5:9) & (Galatians 3:26).
13- No Jinns creatures.
14- Noah’s wife was not a sinner, (Genesis 6:18).
15- Noah had no sinner son, (Genesis 7:1).
16- Noah total years before the flood 600 years & after the flood 350 years (950 years in total) (Genesis 9:28-29).
17- Aaron, Moses and their sister Miriam (NOT Jesus’ mother) are the children of Amram whom born around 1500 years before Jesus (Numbers 26:59).
18- If someone leaves Christianity, no death punishment (Matthew 10:14).
19- Pray alone in your room, (Matthew 6:5-7).
20- God three love stories (Luke 15:3-32), (Matthew 5:45).
Quran:
01- Rejects trinity, (Quran 05:73).
02- Jesus was not crucified, (Quran 04:157).
03- Jesus is no more than a normal messenger, (Quran 04:171).
04- Unlimited polygamy & divorce are allowed (up to 4 wives at a time), plus unlimited right-hand-posses (concubine or bought), (Quran 04:03).
05- Marriage (sex) & lots of virgins in paradise, (Quran 44:54), (Quran 55:56).
06- Smite heads, slay, fight, and terror, (Quran 47:4), (Quran 09:5), (Quran 09:29), (Quran 03:151).
07- No miracles for Muhammad, (Quran 17:90-93).
08- Allah can substitute his words or cause to be forgotten, (Quran 02:106), (Quran 13:39), (Quran 16:101).
09- Swear as you like, (Quran 05:89), (Quran 02:225).
10- Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth, (Quran 05:45).
11- Jesus was born under a palm tree, (Quran 19:22-24).
12- Muslims are slaves of Allah, (Quran 44:18).
13- There are creatures called Jinns (Jinns can be Muslims), (Quran 51:56), (Quran 72:14).
14- Noah’s wife was a sinner, (Quran 66:10).
15- One of Noah’s sons was a sinner and punished by the flood (Quran 11:42-46).
16- Noah total years before the flood were 950 years, (Quran 29:14).
17- Miriam (Jesus’ mother) is a sister of Aaron & a daughter of Amram whom born around 1500 years before Jesus, (Quran 19:28), (Quran 66:12).
18- Death is the punishment if someone leaves Islam, (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260).
19- Pray standing with groups in the street, (Quran 02:43), (Quran 04:102).
20- Allah is Makkar (deceptive/guile), (“plan” is a wrong English translation), (Quran: 07:99), (Quran: 08:30).
Who told you so!, do you know the Arabic term “Nasekh & Mansukh” its coming from (Quran 16:101), please ask any Arabic Muslim cleric, he would explain that to you.
Sorry brother, but that is nor true, that not only contradicts the war verses in Quran, but also contradicts how Islam reached Spain in early Islamic wars.
That is another contradiction with Christianity, Jesus teaches this in (Matthew 7:15-20):
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”
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Sam 777, you are awesome! I look forward to more of your posts.
In the scheme of things I am new to islam, the koran and islam’s history. I only started after 9/11 - even though I was in the USMC when our guys got killed in Beirut, and paid attention to many of the attacks against our citizens here and abroad. 9/11 was the motivating factor to find out ‘why do they hate us’. And once I found out I haven’t stopped trying to let people know the facade that we see and the reality of islam!
When I talk facade, I mean that front that the muslims put up to make us think how peaceful and benign islam is. What we did is let the wolf in the hen’s coop! And they are multiplying and their demands have sped up since 9/11.
Oh well, thanks again for your posts. I look forward to them.
In the scheme of things I am new to islam, the koran and islam’s history. I only started after 9/11 - even though I was in the USMC when our guys got killed in Beirut, and paid attention to many of the attacks against our citizens here and abroad. 9/11 was the motivating factor to find out ‘why do they hate us’. And once I found out I haven’t stopped trying to let people know the facade that we see and the reality of islam!
When I talk facade, I mean that front that the muslims put up to make us think how peaceful and benign islam is. What we did is let the wolf in the hen’s coop! And they are multiplying and their demands have sped up since 9/11.
Oh well, thanks again for your posts. I look forward to them.
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