My point was simply that the fact that one may call themselves something does not necessarily make it so, as in changing the doctrines of a certain Church and then calling yourself by that Church’s name. What I am beginning to understand is that we are as close to the Anglican Church as I thought we were. You just happen to be the odd man out within your own faith tradition which had me confused for a bit.I’m not quite sure the point of your condescension. So what? I am only defending my religion in a way which would once have been normal, before this country was hoodwinked out of its empire, bankrupted by war and swamped by foreign immigration. I would not be surprised if it soon became illegal for me to publicly profess the faith and doctrine of the established church at some point.
Good news though - many local RC parishes are now having Masses celebrated in Polish!
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t be able to say what the relative numbers were, but Anglo-Catholics such as myself are not the predominant face of Anglicanism. Our hey-day was probably 50 years ago.My point was simply that the fact that one may call themselves something does not necessarily make it so, as in changing the doctrines of a certain Church and then calling yourself by that Church’s name. What I am beginning to understand is that we are as close to the Anglican Church as I thought we were. You just happen to be the odd man out within your own faith tradition which had me confused for a bit.
Ha ha ha ha, now that’s what I’m talking about.The Church of England is the same church which has existed on this island for almost 1400 years, .
I’m not quite sure why you think that is ‘pathetic’ or why you feel the need to be insulting.Ha ha ha ha, now that’s what I’m talking about.
Pathetic.
Cognitive dissonance at its worst.
You should become a Mormon.
Some of them.The diferance between Catholics and Anglicans is simply the 39 Articles
anglicansonline.org/basics/thirty-nine_articles.html
He wanted his marriage annulled, not a divorce. Bravo for trying though. Oh and one of our Priests was ordained by a Roman Catholic bishop, and I can assure you his communion wine tastes the same.Anglican _ the reverent or spiritual teacher didn’t receive the very important sacrament as the priest received in the Catholic church when they are ordained. Therefore, the communion isn’t valid and they don’t have any confession.
Catholic _ Contains all the blessed sacraments that were passed on from Jesus to the Apostles. _ They also believed in the Virgin Mary
There are many difference but two main ones is the fact that the Catholic Priest can replace the Lord during the sacrament of reconciliation and Eucharist and Catholic accept Mother Mary as the blessed virgin Mother.
The origin of Protestant was from a King that wanted to be able to divorce. Catholic cannot divorce technically because it is consider a mortal sin if your spouse start his/her life with someone else or if you start your life with someone else, due that it would be consider adultery.
Spot on, re: Hank. But for ultimate accuracy, he sought a decree of nullity, a declaration that no sacramentally valid marriage had occurred, due to technical thingies relative to an undispensed impediment. Complicated.He wanted his marriage annulled, not a divorce. Bravo for trying though. Oh and one of our Priests was ordained by a Roman Catholic bishop, and I can assure you his communion wine tastes the same.
The Pope refused it, even as he had given a similar thing to Henry’s sister, mainly due to Spanish political pressure.Spot on, re: Hank. But for ultimate accuracy, he sought a decree of nullity, a declaration that no sacramentally valid marriage had occurred, due to technical thingies relative to an undispensed impediment. Complicated.
GKC
True again, as to Hank and the 39. But do not over simplify Hank’s great Matter. Many, many details. And not so much Spanish pressure as Charles V, in his Holy Roman Emperor persona. True, he came of Spanish roots.The Pope refused it, even as he had given a similar thing to Henry’s sister, mainly due to Spanish political pressure.
But as Roman Catholics don’t seem to grasp, Henry is a footnote in the Church, hated Reformers, and would not have approved the Thirty Nine Articles.
Only very, very rarely. And I scotch it, if required.I would not be surprised if someone on this forum tried to resurrect the Nag’s Head Fable.
You are incorrect about the Anglican understanding of the Virgin Mary. At the reformation 5 of the 6 Marian feasts from the Sarum Breviary were retained by the Church of England in the Book of Common Prayer Calander (the sixth was re-introduced in the 20th century) and Anglicans have written some of the finest devotional hymns to the Virgin Mary (Sing we of the Blessed Mother, For Mary Mother of Our God; Shall we not love thee Mother dear, to name but three).Anglican _ the reverent or spiritual teacher didn’t receive the very important sacrament as the priest received in the Catholic church when they are ordained. Therefore, the communion isn’t valid and they don’t have any confession.
Catholic _ Contains all the blessed sacraments that were passed on from Jesus to the Apostles. _ They also believed in the Virgin Mary
There are many difference but two main ones is the fact that the Catholic Priest can replace the Lord during the sacrament of reconciliation and Eucharist and Catholic accept Mother Mary as the blessed virgin Mother.
Sing of Mary, pure and lowly, for another.You are incorrect about the Anglican understanding of the Virgin Mary. At the reformation 5 of the 6 Marian feasts from the Sarum Breviary were retained by the Church of England in the Book of Common Prayer Calander (the sixth was re-introduced in the 20th century) and Anglicans have written some of the finest devotional hymns to the Virgin Mary (Sing we of the Blessed Mother, For Mary Mother of Our God; Shall we not love thee Mother dear, to name but three).
The work of the Roman Catholic and Anglican International Commission on the Virgin Mary shows, in fact, that there is much commonality in understandng between the two.
So did we, under our late rector, after Sunday mass. Currently, it’s a spoken one, after Wed. Evening Prayer.I have even been known to sing the Angelus.
As Catholics, we are obligated to believe all that the Church teaches and holds to be true. Is there anything similar to this statement in the Anglican world? Now I can tell you that there are many, many Catholics who don’t know or pay attention to what the Church teaches and thus come up with some unique ideas concerning Church teaching. But this is a failure on the individual’s part. We are not allowed to pick and choose which doctrines or dogmas we will believe. It seems this is not the case in the Anglican Church. Am I correct?Not necessarily. I wouldn’t be able to say what the relative numbers were, but Anglo-Catholics such as myself are not the predominant face of Anglicanism. Our hey-day was probably 50 years ago.
All sorts of Anglicans out there.
GKC
I used to think you were correct about Anglicans but I am more convicted now that this is wrong. Until recently the Church of England and it’s derivatives maintained a high degree of religious Orthodoxy, most of which was really contained in the 1662 Prayer Book liturgies under the principle of lex orandi lex credendi.As Catholics, we are obligated to believe all that the Church teaches and holds to be true. Is there anything similar to this statement in the Anglican world? Now I can tell you that there are many, many Catholics who don’t know or pay attention to what the Church teaches and thus come up with some unique ideas concerning Church teaching. But this is a failure on the individual’s part. We are not allowed to pick and choose which doctrines or dogmas we will believe. It seems this is not the case in the Anglican Church. Am I correct?
Yes. This is an observation, not a commendation.As Catholics, we are obligated to believe all that the Church teaches and holds to be true. Is there anything similar to this statement in the Anglican world? Now I can tell you that there are many, many Catholics who don’t know or pay attention to what the Church teaches and thus come up with some unique ideas concerning Church teaching. But this is a failure on the individual’s part. We are not allowed to pick and choose which doctrines or dogmas we will believe. It seems this is not the case in the Anglican Church. Am I correct?