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Do Catholics believe in dating? I wouldn’t know how to go about meeting someone in my parish there are few young women and I’m a bit of an older man (no not that old!) 43 and I don’t know if they’d be interested. The priest is not a matchmaker and we have no singles groups. I’ve read opinions from Catholics that dating is a loose term for romance and romance isn’t a recreational pasttime. I don’t know.
 
I’m Catholic, I believed in dating (not sure how else I would have met my husband), I believe in letting my daughter date when she’s ready. You’re going to get some on here that don’t believe in dating and you’ll get some that do. If you want to ask out one of the young ladies in your parish, by all means ask! See if they have a common hobby or interest as you do, or just ask them out for a cup of coffee.
 
I’m Catholic, I believed in dating (not sure how else I would have met my husband), I believe in letting my daughter date when she’s ready. You’re going to get some on here that don’t believe in dating and you’ll get some that do. If you want to ask out one of the young ladies in your parish, by all means ask! See if they have a common hobby or interest as you do, or just ask them out for a cup of coffee.
When I’ve tried that with other women outside of the church all I ever get when talking to them is lied to. That to me is a sign their heart (or minds) are somewhere else. 🙂
 
When I’ve tried that with other women outside of the church all I ever get when talking to them is lied to. That to me is a sign their heart (or minds) are somewhere else. 🙂
Can’t compare every woman that you meet to women that have done you wrong in the past. Same as I couldn’t compare my husband to every jerk I had met before him. If you feel that way about women in general, perhaps you’re not ready to date. Or you can give these women in your parish a fresh start and approach them without tarnishing them with your past experiences. All women don’t lie, just as all men don’t either.
 
If you are looking for someone to marry, then you will probably have to get to know people better first. Whether you call that dating or not, that’s up to you.

Honestly, I don’t see anything harmful in dating (that is, a man and a woman going out to dinner, spending some time together getting to know each other, etc.).

I doubt that an arranged marriage would work well in the West these days. Is there another approach that you would prefer?
 
I don’t agree with dating as a recreational past time, because I don’t see the point or how it is different than having a close friend who is just a friend. If you know you aren’t going to be together for the rest of your lives and you aren’t planning on getting married to that person, then I see no point. I think dating should be part of the process on the way to marriage. People should go from friends, to dating, to engaged, to married. Now, that’s not to say that two people who date should end up married. But to use the time of friendship to get to know the person as a person. Dating to know the person as a partner. Engagement to prepare yourselves for married life. And then marriage to encourage and help each other get closer to God, and raise a family in the faith.

But that’s my opinion.
 
Do Catholics believe in dating? I wouldn’t know how to go about meeting someone in my parish there are few young women and I’m a bit of an older man (no not that old!) 43 and I don’t know if they’d be interested. The priest is not a matchmaker and we have no singles groups. I’ve read opinions from Catholics that dating is a loose term for romance and romance isn’t a recreational pasttime. I don’t know.
Those discussions involve a lot of definition ping-pong. Dating is not something which you define it as not being. Just like you can prove or disprove any textual statement by redefining the words to fit the goal.

But I’d say that romance shouldn’t be merely a recreational pastime (obviously I’m not saying it should be boring or business). And I generally believe dating to be a broken concept. I believe that about “courting” too. I actually believe that roleplaying a convention is the wrong path to take here, simply.
 
What I think is study discernment of selected individuals. The more one discerns whether they are good enough for them or not, the better it makes matters easier for everybody.

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Those discussions involve a lot of definition ping-pong. Dating is not something which you define it as not being. Just like you can prove or disprove any textual statement by redefining the words to fit the goal.

But I’d say that romance shouldn’t be merely a recreational pastime (obviously I’m not saying it should be boring or business). And I generally believe dating to be a broken concept. I believe that about “courting” too. I actually believe that roleplaying a convention is the wrong path to take here, simply.
My main reason for dating would be if nothing else to make friends. Friends you can spend time with to see if you would like to marry. I’ve never dabbled in romantic relationships and had bad luck on the surface but I have alot of girlfriends. I like women really and seem to make friends pretty easy with them. But it stops there. Maybe I haven’t met the right one. Well there is a vocation called being single.
 
Do Catholics believe in dating? I wouldn’t know how to go about meeting someone in my parish there are few young women and I’m a bit of an older man (no not that old!) 43 and I don’t know if they’d be interested. The priest is not a matchmaker and we have no singles groups. I’ve read opinions from Catholics that dating is a loose term for romance and romance isn’t a recreational pasttime. I don’t know.
Maybe your parish needs someone to start a singles group…
 
My main reason for dating would be if nothing else to make friends. Friends you can spend time with to see if you would like to marry. I’ve never dabbled in romantic relationships and had bad luck on the surface but I have alot of girlfriends. I like women really and seem to make friends pretty easy with them. But it stops there. Maybe I haven’t met the right one. Well there is a vocation called being single.
If you see dating as a way to make friends, perhaps this is why you have a lot of female friends but it stops there.

If you are romantically interested in a woman, you need to treat her differently to how you treat other female friends. You need to avoid entering the dreaded “friends zone”. You need to make your intentions more obvious, by the kinds of activities you plan (eg cup of coffee = friends, dinner and movie = date), and simple romantic gestures (eg flowers).

Even in this more modern world, many women expect a man to take the lead in romance. It may be that of the many single female friends you have, there is a perfectly suitable future spouse (or even a few potentials), but you simply haven’t been bold enough in your intentions towards her.
 
If you see dating as a way to make friends, perhaps this is why you have a lot of female friends but it stops there.

If you are romantically interested in a woman, you need to treat her differently to how you treat other female friends. You need to avoid entering the dreaded “friends zone”. You need to make your intentions more obvious, by the kinds of activities you plan (eg cup of coffee = friends, dinner and movie = date), and simple romantic gestures (eg flowers).

Even in this more modern world, many women expect a man to take the lead in romance. It may be that of the many single female friends you have, there is a perfectly suitable future spouse (or even a few potentials), but you simply haven’t been bold enough in your intentions towards her.
I don’t think I want to get them flowers I have done similar things. I can see a stalking or sexual harrassment situation coming there. I’ve had women try everything on me. Try to put me in jail, get me fired from jobs, (I was vindicated), and barred from public places. You learn after a while to mind your own business. Atleast in a bar conversations are more relaxed. I don’t drink but it’s alittle safer there. But it’s not a place to meet women. Not for a catholic anyway.
 
Do Catholics believe in dating? I wouldn’t know how to go about meeting someone in my parish there are few young women and I’m a bit of an older man (no not that old!) 43 and I don’t know if they’d be interested. The priest is not a matchmaker and we have no singles groups. I’ve read opinions from Catholics that dating is a loose term for romance and romance isn’t a recreational pasttime. I don’t know.
Yes, catholic believe in dating.

My advice: if you are 43, don’t pursue anyone under 30-33. And start slow; if you notice someone at Mass and are interested, start with just saying good morning. Work up over a few weeks to having conversation. It can be uncomfortable for some women to be approached by a stranger and asked out, even if it’s just a coffee and by a Mass-goer. Good luck!
 
I don’t think I want to get them flowers I have done similar things. I can see a stalking or sexual harrassment situation coming there. I’ve had women try everything on me. Try to put me in jail, get me fired from jobs, (I was vindicated), and barred from public places. You learn after a while to mind your own business. Atleast in a bar conversations are more relaxed. I don’t drink but it’s alittle safer there. But it’s not a place to meet women. Not for a catholic anyway.
I don’t think underacloud was saying buy flowers right away for any of these young women at your parish that you find attractive. Flowers would come later after you’ve been out a few times and what to express to the young woman that you want to pursue the friendship on a more romantic level.

I think you just need to go slow, but you’ve got to start somewhere. Ask one of the girls out for a cup of coffee with nothing more expected than a chat and some coffee. Go slow, but not forever if you want to pursue something further. When you get to that point, that’s when you start to show the young girl you consider her more than just friends by buying her flowers or going to someplace that is not a place you’d go just with friends.
 
I don’t think I want to get them flowers I have done similar things. I can see a stalking or sexual harrassment situation coming there. I’ve had women try everything on me. Try to put me in jail, get me fired from jobs, (I was vindicated), and barred from public places. You learn after a while to mind your own business. Atleast in a bar conversations are more relaxed. I don’t drink but it’s alittle safer there. But it’s not a place to meet women. Not for a catholic anyway.
It sounds like you may need a little help with determining how to go about meeting and getting to know women, if this sort of thing has happened a few times now. Do you have any males friends you could ask for advice? Female friends too…or what about siblings? Dating can be very hard and most of us make mistakes along the way.
I don’t think underacloud was saying buy flowers right away for any of these young women at your parish that you find attractive. Flowers would come later after you’ve been out a few times and what to express to the young woman that you want to pursue the friendship on a more romantic level.

I think you just need to go slow, but you’ve got to start somewhere. Ask one of the girls out for a cup of coffee with nothing more expected than a chat and some coffee. Go slow, but not forever if you want to pursue something further. When you get to that point, that’s when you start to show the young girl you consider her more than just friends by buying her flowers or going to someplace that is not a place you’d go just with friends.
Yes, the flowers come a little later, and in the right context.

So like Patrice says, ask someone out for a cup of coffee and a chat. Get to know them. Don’t rush things straight away. If you want to pursue them romantically, after getting to know them for a while, then start to make things more clear, in terms of where you go together. So if you make a “date” to go out for dinner, then you could then buy her some flowers (nothing too over the top) as a sign that your intentions are romantic. If she doesn’t share those feelings, she’ll give you the “friends” talk and you both move on from there, without need for restraining orders etc.
 
I don’t think I want to get them flowers I have done similar things. I can see a stalking or sexual harrassment situation coming there. I’ve had women try everything on me.** Try to put me in jail, get me fired from jobs, (I was vindicated), and barred from public places.** You learn after a while to mind your own business. Atleast in a bar conversations are more relaxed. I don’t drink but it’s alittle safer there. But it’s not a place to meet women. Not for a catholic anyway.
It sounds like you have some serious issues either with the places you are finding women, or the ways in which you are interacting with them. These results are abnormal, to say the least.

What do you think it happening that leads you into these situations?
 
I don’t think underacloud was saying buy flowers right away for any of these young women at your parish that you find attractive. Flowers would come later after you’ve been out a few times and what to express to the young woman that you want to pursue the friendship on a more romantic level.

I think you just need to go slow, but you’ve got to start somewhere. Ask one of the girls out for a cup of coffee with nothing more expected than a chat and some coffee. Go slow, but not forever if you want to pursue something further. When you get to that point, that’s when you start to show the young girl you consider her more than just friends by buying her flowers or going to someplace that is not a place you’d go just with friends.
Any prosecutor willing to back that kind of “harassment” claim needs to get disbarred. Flowers are okay if it’s a date or if things are being ambiguous. If it stays within the friend zone, well, it doesn’t get out of it. Something must happen, I’m not saying “something immoral” or “something physical here”, but there needs to be a bit of open advances. Otherwise it’s kinda like trying to sell something without actually telling people it’s up for sale. 😉
It sounds like you have some serious issues either with the places you are finding women, or the ways in which you are interacting with them. These results are abnormal, to say the least.

What do you think it happening that leads you into these situations?
And avoid drama queens.
 
Any prosecutor willing to back that kind of “harassment” claim needs to get disbarred. Flowers are okay if it’s a date or if things are being ambiguous. If it stays within the friend zone, well, it doesn’t get out of it. Something must happen, I’m not saying “something immoral” or “something physical here”, but there needs to be a bit of open advances. Otherwise it’s kinda like trying to sell something without actually telling people it’s up for sale. 😉

And avoid drama queens.
This sounds way worse than drama queens to me. If these women are filing lawsuits, getting him arrested, getting him banned from public places, etc. then he is probably either 1) consistently meeting women with severe mental health issues, or 2) behaving in wildly inappropriate ways.

I will assume #1, to be charitable. In either case though, he definitely needs to change up his routine.
 
Yes, catholic believe in dating.

My advice: if you are 43, don’t pursue anyone under 30-33. And start slow; if you notice someone at Mass and are interested, start with just saying good morning. Work up over a few weeks to having conversation. It can be uncomfortable for some women to be approached by a stranger and asked out, even if it’s just a coffee and by a Mass-goer. Good luck!
Well the thing with me is I do like younger women. My age group would be more like 20-40. But I do understand that women that young are probably not interested so that’s fine.
 
It sounds like you have some serious issues either with the places you are finding women, or the ways in which you are interacting with them. These results are abnormal, to say the least.

What do you think it happening that leads you into these situations?
Well the sexual harrassment thing was from a troublemaker I believe. I was taking up a collection at a place I used to work for hot dogs from a bar across the street. I told a young lady I had talked to I had no interest in that I was taking up a collection and asked if she wanted hotdogs. I come to work and I’m called into the office and told I’ve been fired for “sexual harrassment”. She jumped the gun I guess this girl complained and there was an investigation and I was told I was not fired. I must’ve asked 4-5 people and I brought back the hot dogs. Another person I used to work with told me he asked her for a pen and she said it was in her purse and to get it. He did and she complained that he got into her purse and he was called into the office. He just quit.
 
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