Catholics and evangelicals hold different political and theological views about Israel. Why?

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  1. Evangelicals, generally speaking are far more aligned with, and active within a certain political ideology.
  2. They also have succumbed to the error of viewing the scriptures as a DIY project.
 
I think it’s because Israel is more tied in with Rapture theology, which Catholics don’t believe in.
 
There are certain Evangelicals who are supportive of Israel for the sole reason that they expect all Israelis suddenly to convert from Judaism to Christianity in the “end times”, prior to the “rapture.” But they are only a tiny minority even within the Evangelical wing of Protestantism.
 
observer333 said:
Israel is prophecised as playing an important role in the last days in many places in the Bible. Why is this issue debatable? Any thoughts?
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Jesus is the real Israel (Natural Jacob was given a Spiritual Name that belonged to another, as a type - 1 Corinthians 15:46; “Out of Egypt have I called my son”, “Israel” - Matthew 2:13-15; Hosea 11:1; Genesis 32:28; Acts 5:31; Israel, means Prince (overcomer) with God) - John 16:33; Revelation 3:21; the “house” of “Israel” - Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; Hebrews 3:6) and the everlasting Covenant was made with Him (between He and the Father, witnessed by the Holy Ghost in eternity; Malachi 2:5; which was ratified by Jesus at the cross by His shed blood and death (Psalms 116:14,18), and ratified by the Father upon Jesus’ ascension (Psalms 61:5)).

The earthly Jerusalem and the ‘temple’ that once was, is desolate, forever (Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35; Matthew 21:19; Mark 11:14; Jude 1:12).
 
I think Evangelicals believe that after the Rapture is when the 144,000 Jewish people mentioned in Revelation chapter 7 will come to know the Messiah.
 
Evangelicals believe that the Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt and that this is where the Anti-Christ will be seated proclaiming that he is God. They believe that this is the next major prophetic event that will happen–the rebuilding of the Temple. And plans are already in the making for this event. See https://templeinstitute.org/
All of the Temple Instruments have already been made and are ready to be put into service. Priests are being selected and trained. They believe that God will be the next one who has to move and they are waiting on Him to provide the way for the actual rebuilding of the temple.

I’m not convinced that Matthew 23:38 and Luke 13:35 say that the temple will be desolate forever. I don’t see that at all in the text.
 
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And plans are already in the making for this event.
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No, they aren’t. Contact any leading persons in earthly Jerusalem, the leading ‘Rabs’, the leading persons of the ‘churches’, ‘synagogues’ and or ‘mosques’, contact the leader of the political factions, contact the leading authorities of the archeological and city planning committees.

The Jewish system of religion today is based upon ‘Rabs’ and Talmudic and even Kabbalistic tradition, all of which no longer ‘need’ anything of the temple as it is given in the OT/NT. The jews today do not want to re-institute sacrificial offerings (except a few very rare occurances), and they have no idea who is of the pure Levitical line of Aaron to be High priest of said earthly worthless work (Daniel 9:27; Hebrews 10:26, the sacrifice and oblation of sheep, goats and calves, etc have eternally ceased), seeing as the jews were scattered and mingled with many other peoples a long time ago. There is also no earthly Ark of the Covenant, which is required (Leviticus 16), seeing as it was hidden in the time of Jeremiah and remains buried to this day (Jeremiah 3:16). All of the real work is done by Jesus, in Heaven (Hebrews 8:2, Revelation, etc), and the antiChrist has been here a long long time, already sitting in the “temple” (1 Corinthians 3:11,16,17, 6:19, 2 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:5; Revelation 3:12) of God, already and will continue to exist until Jesus returns (2 Thessalonians 2:8).
 
I was in Jerusalem and visited The Temple Institute. I have seen the items with my own eyes. The Altar of Sacrifice, the Menorah, the Priestly garments, etc. All are made exactly by Biblical standards/measurements. And priests are being selected and trained. The Temple Institute is doing all of these things. Check out their site.

I imagine there probably would be arguments about the things you mentioned.

(The Ark of the Covenant wasn’t in the Temple during Jesus’ times, and they carried on anyhow)

…We shall see…
 
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I was in Jerusalem and visited The Temple Institute.
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That little place, doesn’t represent today’s Judaism. It is a self-proclaimed project of an american (born/raised Massachusetts) man (Chaim Richman, who has connections with Kabbalism, and if I search some more I might be able to confirm my other suspician of the man) and a few others that are trying to drum up notariety through media. It’s a stunt.
 
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I’m not sure what suspicions you have about Chaim Richman, whom I listen to on a weekly basis. I find him very informative on Biblical studies, and I haven’t noticed any teachings about Kabbalah. I haven’t researched him personally.
Evangelicals, and maybe others Christian groups, do believe the Temple will be rebuilt and that this can be seen in Biblical prophecy. The Temple Institute is realistically working towards that end. So if God does allow this, it will happen. Only time will tell.
 
Because some think that all Jews will suddenly convert to Christianity before the second coming. In my view, I do not see it happening, I think those who are meant to convert will. Not all or even most.
 
Because a man, John Nelson Darby, born about eighteen centuries after Jesus, created dispensationalism. This novel theology was promoted through the Scofield Reference Bible. Evangelicals mostly fully embraced this novel theology. This theology posits that for the end times to come there needs to be temple sacrifice again in Jerusalem. So, to hasten the end many want to help creat modern Israel.

 
What do the Scriptures say? Apostate Jews were cut off from Israel, and faithful Gentiles were grafted into Israel along with the faithful remnant. When the Jews repent, they will be restored. Quite simply, the Church is Israel fully grown. Just as under the Old Law, the wicked were cut off and God-fearing Gentiles grafted in, so it is under the New Covenant, except that whereas only a handful of Gentiles were grafted in under the Old Law, under the New Covenant a vast multitude from every people, tongue, kindred and nation are grafted in. Remember too that the Israelites who believed over the centuries were denied by their own nation and lived among Gentiles, freely intermarrying with Christians from every nation. I expect that most of Europe is part Israelite on account of these Israelites who were either among the faithful remnant or converted in the ensuing centuries.
 
Looks like we’re stuck with being guest stars in other people’s narratives either way! 😉
 
Because Evangelicals take the bible in context. They see God’s eternal hand on Israel and her people. Besides haters can deny the obvious that bible prophecy is being fulfilled before their eyes but it is.
 
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