I think you have hit on something here. There appear to be two types of people in this country: those who are for smaller government, and those who are for bigger government. It seems that most debates get down to which you prefer. Pro-gun controllers are for bigger government: you can’t have more control without more government. They obviously don’t fear government and, as a result, can’t see why people “need” guns.
)Because when the website changes or goes down, the link stops working. That is what happened in the previous thread we had on this exact same topic, about 6 months ago.
Fair enough…But to be honest…Most threads here seem to die and get buried and new threads started on the same topics…Which is OK but then it requires that you look up this same data over again at which time you can post and “up to date” link…
Some guns are fine, but I support reinstating the assault rifle ban. Ak-47s are for fighting the Taliban, not your neighbor.
What do you mean by “AK-47” and “assault rifle”? It is currently illegal to possess a fully-automatic AK-47 unless you have the money for the permit. Semi-auto versions are no different from other makes of semi-auto rifles that do not require a permit, except they just look evil.
More deadly than both of those, as others have alluded to, is the violent mind of a murderer.
All the firearms ever made??? You know that 625,000 died in the US Civil War, right? They were not killed by Hollywood my friend.The so called “entertainment industry” have influenced more people to violent mindset that all the firearms ever made. I say that knowing that I cannot “prove” it…but I know it just the same and so do you all. And which of our politicians are scrambling to control this glorification of murder , sex and mayhem? Who will even publically make the connection? Hollywood was forced to exclude smoking in scenes because it encourages the young to mimic the addiction but they will and do deny any connection between film and the horrific violence among our young. Blaming firearms is the easy way out for people who are unable to connect dots.
I think the “Victim Industrial Complex” mentality has a lot to do with it as well. I’m sure the perpetrators of these shooting feel they are victims of some sort.The so called “entertainment industry” have influenced more people to violent mindset that all the firearms ever made. I say that knowing that I cannot “prove” it…but I know it just the same and so do you all. And which of our politicians are scrambling to control this glorification of murder , sex and mayhem? Who will even publically make the connection? Hollywood was forced to exclude smoking in scenes because it encourages the young to mimic the addiction but they will and do deny any connection between film and the horrific violence among our young. Blaming firearms is the easy way out for people who are unable to connect dots.
Good point…but even in this it was not the firearms that influenced these people to violence…there was much violence before the introduction of gunpowder weapons. So when pismopal said…"* The so called “entertainment industry” have influenced more people to violent mindset that all the firearms ever made.*" it is probably more accurate to point out that this is a comparison of apples and oranges…
There is that element…and it can seem perhaps larger than it is since those who are not anxious (but still own a gun for that purpose) will not “salivate at the thought” or be vocal about it…
While I am not bothered by the “Insured by Smith and Wesson” bumper stickers…I agree about the other. Just as I am bothered by a bumper sticker saying “My kid beat up your honor student”. In both cases they show a poor attitude on the part of the owner…
And this is why I fully support the idea of proper training - mandatory training for those wishing to own a gun - especially a handgun.
Very few people actually feel that way and the national data of gun crime, shootings, and those who carry (either concealed or open) legally. The number of people who are legally carrying guns on a regular basis who use them in ways that are determined to be illegal is infinitesimal. Painting them with that brush is akin to labeling all people who claim to be Christian as they same as the people from Westboro Baptist Church or the Baptist Church in Mississippi who wouldn’t let a black couple get married there. Obviously the overwhelming majority of Christians do not feel that way and neither do the overwhelming majority of gun owners look forward to ever using deadly force. People often get strident about it because they often feel marginalized and attacked for believe the way that they do. If people on the left stop trying to curtail the rights of US Citizens to carry legally and own guns, I firmly believe you will see very few of the signs or bumper stickers you have described.
You are actually attempting to equate justified warfare with senseless civil violence??? You try to do that and then brush off “Hollywood” as having no influence on the gun violence in inner cities? I am sorry but I am going to let the readers be the judge of our relative cases and move on to a fruitful discussion somewhere else. Have a nice day
Since you are either disinclined to answer or unable to, I will let you know that there is no difference whatsoever. They shoot the exact same ammunition. Perhaps we should either A) learn what we are talking about; or B) stop focusing on what guns look like as justification for banning them.
Too bad none of the Christians in the Sudan thought about that while they were being raped to death.
