Catholics ARE "Christians"; so why aren't all Christians Catholic?

  • Thread starter Thread starter PJM
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Padres1969 said:
  1. Yes, Roman Catholics are Christians. They profess the historic creeds, believe in the Trinitarian God and accompanying baptism…
  2. Because Roman Catholicism is but one denomination among the many that make up Christianity (or the Body of Christ if you will). Many Christians (Protestant, Anglican, Orthodox) do profess directly to be members of Christ’s one, holy, catholic (i.e. Universal) and apostolic Church, but not members of the Roman Catholic Church specifically. .
Click to expand...
  1. All the members of the Catholic Church are Christians - not just the Roman part of the Church.
  2. No the Catholic Church is* not *a denomination.
Other Christians too are in some relationship with the Catholic Church - a real though not full communion.
 
Bookcat said:
  1. All the members of the Catholic Church are Christians - not just the Roman part of the Church.
  2. No the Catholic Church is* not *a denomination.
Other Christians too are in some relationship with the Catholic Church - a real though not full communion.
Click to expand...
OK, thanks!
 
Wannano said:
I am not exactly understanding what you are asking. I appreciated that rc gave me a direct answer to my question rather than skirting it. I have no problem with you.😉
Click to expand...
That’s okay, I wasn’t really seeking your approval … at least not in a way that relevant here.
Wannano said:
Thanks, this site sets me straight,
…
Click to expand...
Not to get onto another tangent, but the endless chorus of Protestants praising the 1914 Catholic Encyclopedia gets tiresome after a while – particularly since it is generally done in an under the radar fashion.
 
Peter_J said:
That’s okay, I wasn’t really seeking your approval … at least not in a way that relevant here.

Not to get onto another tangent, but the endless chorus of Protestants praising the 1914 Catholic Encyclopedia gets tiresome after a while – particularly since it is generally done in an under the radar fashion.
Click to expand...
Interesting…I have never seen or read the book or even heard of it!
 
Wannano said:
Interesting…I have never seen or read the book or even heard of it!
Click to expand...
Heh. I think that would make your praising it *more *troubling. 😉

But seriously, I think it’s more that you haven’t heard it called “Catholic Encyclopedia” before. (Some people call it “the New Advent Encyclopedia”, because that website has it electronically.)
 
Peter_J said:
Heh. I think that would make your praising it *more *troubling. 😉

But seriously, I think it’s more that you haven’t heard it called “Catholic Encyclopedia” before. (Some people call it “the New Advent Encyclopedia”, because that website has it electronically.)
Click to expand...
I’m a little confused… did wannano praise it? I think that small section helped him understand Confirmation (at least from our point of view).

Are you taking issue with the orthodoxy of the encyclopedia? I realize it’s not the end all answer, but it is pretty informative.
 
PJM said:
This is a two part question:
  1. D you believe {why or why not} that Catholics are Christians?
  2. Catholics ARE Christians, so why aren’t all Christians Catholics?
God Bless you

Patrick
Click to expand...
is this a trick question?
  1. yes, Christ founded the Catholic Church.
  2. because they don’t believe the same as Catholics.
 
Peter_J said:
Why do you ask, if I may? Are only positive views of it permissible?
Click to expand...
Permissible? I shared a small section, and wannano appreciated it. Why not address the issue you have. No one here is placing the “book” on a pedistol.
 
Peter_J said:
Heh. I think that would make your praising it *more *troubling. 😉

But seriously, I think it’s more that you haven’t heard it called “Catholic Encyclopedia” before. (Some people call it “the New Advent Encyclopedia”, because that website has it electronically.)
Click to expand...
Am I still under the radar?
 
simspt said:
is this a trick question?
  1. yes, Christ founded the Catholic Church.
  2. because they don’t believe the same as Catholics.
Click to expand...
NO, not a trick question:)

OK, so WHY don’t they believe what the RCC teaches, practices and believes:shrug:

There is but one True God

Even GOD can only hold [accept] one set of Faith beliefs on defined issues

And biblically and historically, Christ desired exactly what He did: Founded only One Church [Matthew 16: 18 “MY Church” [singular]… So this is not a retorical question:o

Thanks and GBY
 
rcwitness said:
Being Christian is being born into a body. The body doesn’t save itself, but is part of the group saved. God saved Noah with a promise and guidance. The Ark housed him and his family. The Ark is Christ. We are the family inside.
Click to expand...
Amen,amen!
 
PJM said:
Jesus ONLY founded one Church, and faith; today’s Catholic Church; and it is through Christ Church and Faith that one has the MOST likely possibility of eternal salvation, because TRUTH can be only singular per defined issue. Amen:thumbsup:

GBY
Click to expand...
Hi PJM,

Well, then to answer your original thread question, those Christians that are not Catholic do not believe the above in totality to be the absolute TRUTH. But yes, amen to Christ founding the one, true church and one faith, and that some churches at any given point of time are better at leading to salvation, equipping thereafter, and that the Catholic Church exists, (as do others) with its history, and Truth is absolute per issue, yet some truths trump others, and wisdom and spiritual insight is needed to avoid legalism and mishandling of “truth”.

Blessings
 
benhur said:
Hi PJM,

Well, then to answer your original thread question, those Christians that are not Catholic do not believe the above in totality to be the absolute TRUTH. But yes, amen to Christ founding the one, true church and one faith, and that some churches at any given point of time are better at leading to salvation, equipping thereafter, and that the Catholic Church exists, (as do others) with its history, and Truth is absolute per issue, yet some truths trump others, and wisdom and spiritual insight is needed to avoid legalism and mishandling of “truth”.

Blessings
Click to expand...
There is a lot of meat here and this inspires me. Thanks!
 
benhur said:
Hi PJM,

Well, then to answer your original thread question, those Christians that are not Catholic do not believe the above in totality to be the absolute TRUTH. But yes, amen to Christ founding the one, true church and one faith, and that some churches at any given point of time are better at leading to salvation, equipping thereafter, and that the Catholic Church exists, (as do others) with its history, and Truth is absolute per issue, yet some truths trump others, and wisdom and spiritual insight is needed to avoid legalism and mishandling of “truth”.

Blessings
Click to expand...
TRULY appreciate your reply:)

Your understanding of TRUTH though evades my pragmatic comprehension:shrug:

Dictionary Definition:
noun, plural truths:
The true or actual state of a matter:
  1. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
  2. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
    4. the state or character of being true.
    5. actuality or actual existence.
    6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
    7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
    8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived
    experience:
    9. agreement with a standard or original.
    10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
    11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy.
Eleven definitions of ONE reality Testify that “Truth” must be singular per defined issue in-order to actually be “The Truth.”

WHERE my FRIEND in this definition is there room for vacillation or relativism?

Please respond

GBY

Patrick
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top