Catholics can't attend Protestant services?

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A very, very real question in 1967. In 1967 my grandmother passed away. She (and my father) were Protestant. (My mother and father had to get permission from the archdiocese in 47 to marry [in the sacristy] and my father had to pledge to raise his kids Catholic [which he did]).

I did not go to my grandmother’s burial service (whereas my brother and I served my maternal grandmother’s TLM Requiem Mass). They had a memorial service on the Sunday following and we got permission from our priest to attend. I don’t think y’all realize just how? hmm…critical this question was forty years ago.

I would call myself a tradtional Catholic but this is one of the great benefits of Vatican II. My brother left HMC and married his Baptist wife in a Baptist church. I did not attend his “re-Baptism” but at least I could attend his wedding without worry.
 
As for me, I’m looking for more substance than the “let’s talk about Scripture and see how it makes us feel inside.”
Chesterton said, “The Catholic faith even when watered down can still boil the world to rags.”
 
As for me, I’m looking for more substance than the “let’s talk about Scripture and see how it makes us feel inside.”
My priest doesn’t say that. He is young, vibrant, full of life and love for God. He reads Scripture then defines it, he asks questions etc…
I don’t quite get what you are looking for. Are you looking for hooting and hollering? What do you think bible reading is then?
 
Umm, neither.

Bible study, to me, is not merely scripture reading… I can get that on an iPod, thank-you.

Not sure, but it almost sounds like your judging my sincerity. I certainly hope I am wrong.
Ummm, please tell me exactly how you would define a good bible Scripture reading class. Isn’t that what bible class is? Readings from Scripture?🤷
 
My priest doesn’t say that. He is young, vibrant, full of life and love for God. He reads Scripture then defines it, he asks questions etc…
I don’t quite get what you are looking for. Are you looking for hooting and hollering? What do you think bible reading is then?
That’s an awful ego-centric way to look at somebody else’s issue.

Because someone is looking for more than mere scripture reading does not mean they are looking for “hooting and hollering.” You’re taking things to an extreme based on your views.

Is there a definition in the Catechism on how Bible study is to be performed? Or in some other document I’m not aware of?

I always thought, as long as it didn’t attempt to negate Catholic doctrine, it didn’t matter; apparently I was wrong.

I’m not sure why we’re discussing this here anyway. 🙂 I think the OP received his answer, no need to go on really.
 
how you would define a good bible Scripture reading class.
Nobody but you said “Scripture reading class.” We’re discussing “Bible study” and that isn’t really even the point of the OP entirely.

Anyway, I’m done discussing this here, there’s no good end that will come of this conversation really… Especially being in the non-Catholic board… If you wish to start the discussion up somewhere else, please point me to the post and I will join there to the best of my abilities.
 
Hi BC -

There is no ban, but there are rules. Actully, canon laws regarding attending protestant services.

Here’s an article…cuf.org/Faithfacts/details_view.asp?ffID=225

I attend a local Baptist service every once in a while, and observe the rules thereof. I’m still Catholic, and they know it.

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I played the piano and organ for 10 years at a Presbyterian church. (I also played every week for Mass at my parish.) I quit when the words of a heretical hymn sunk in as I was playing it AND when I listened to the minister preaching heresy. I felt that I was promoting heresy by playing a heretical song. Now, I had the blessing of CA apologist Michelle Arnold to play there because I was being paid and it was part of my livelihood and I always fulfilled my Sunday obligation of Mass attendance but I can tell you it was not ideal. The experience never fed my soul. I always felt bereft when I left the services and I think it was because the fullness of Truth and the Eucharist were not found there. I didn’t leave right away after I figured out I probably should because I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to replace the income. HOWEVER, once I left, every single month for 6 months, I was called to play for extra masses or funerals and it so happened that it all added up to at least the amount I was making at the Presbyterian church. Then, I was called, out of the blue, to be a music director in a parish. (I’d played there for a retreat given by a priest friend of mine a few months before and they’d remembered me.) This income is at least 3 times what I made at the Presbyterian church! I laughed when this all happened because, when I quit the Presbyterians, I told God I trusted that He would provide a way for me to replace this income but, at the beginning of each month, I found myself begging Him to help me find a way to make up the money and then I ended up thanking Him at the end of each month when He did. When I got this job, I figured God must have gotten tired of all the begging I did and so gave me a permanent job! Anyway, bottom line to this discussion, from my perspective, it is not a good thing to be attending Protestant services regularly. One can easily get sucked into the “feel good” experiences. I got sucked in, much to my chagrin now, when I took communion there. I didn’t know it was a mortal sin and my rationale was that we worship God together as a community every week and this was a shared experience. In actuality, I believe I created scandal there. We were NOT worshiping the same God and we were NOT in communion AND they were pretty angry with me when I told them I could no longer receive communion with them. And, now that all my playing jobs are in the Catholic Church, it’s like I’ve come home completely and I have an inner peace that I never had when I played elsewhere. When I found the Truth, I did not want to be distracted away from it ever again.
 
CCC

838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord’s Eucharist."324

2088 The first commandment requires us to nourish and protect our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it. There are various ways of sinning against faith:

Voluntary doubt about the faith disregards or refuses to hold as true what God has revealed and the Church proposes for belief. Involuntary doubt refers to hesitation in believing, difficulty in overcoming objections connected with the faith, or also anxiety aroused by its obscurity. If deliberately cultivated doubt can lead to spiritual blindness.

2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. "Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."11

2106 "Nobody may be forced to act against his convictions, nor is anyone to be restrained from acting in accordance with his conscience in religious matters in private or in public, alone or in association with others, within due limits."34 This right is based on the very nature of the human person, whose dignity enables him freely to assent to the divine truth which transcends the temporal order. For this reason it "continues to exist even in those who do not live up to their obligation of seeking the truth and adhering to it."35
 
The question is whether or not a Catholic can attend a Protestant service in addition to going to Mass on Sunday, or a service on another night of the week (usually Wednesday). Also, if there is no Catholic Church around, there is no obligation to go to Mass. One is not obliged to go to an Orthodox Church if available.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

First. just kidding…there are really lots of questions packed in there. You could attend a Protestant service, but there is not reason too, unless you are attending for family reasons, say a mixed cult…religious marriage, for example. In my family’s situation I have a reason to attend with them. They want to “show off” there grandchildren, daughter and son-in-law, etc. But to recevie communion in it would be wrong. There may be rituals that go against Catholic teaching too, altar calls for example as if to go forward to receive something that just isn’t there or possible. If you are going to learn about them is another reason to attend. There are ecumenical reasons to attend from time to time, but fully participaing is just now allowed because that gives the wrong impression that you agree and accept all that they teach. I think Fr. Serpa was right, but incomplete in his answer.

Most cradle Catholics are just not strong enough or grounded in their faith to know right from wrong in a Protestant church. There is a push to strongly encourage Catholics to learn their faith even better. If you are strong then you will know wrong teaching in a bible class. I would absolutely recommend avoiding any Protestant bible class. I’ve spent enough time in Protestantism to know just how off they are or even further incomplete or very misguided. No matter how sincere they are, you should always make sure you read scripture in context and with Catholic understanding. There are many places where there can be multiple meanings, but not at the ignoring of Catholic teaching.

If you are attending because you think its nice or something, then I would concede to Fr. Serpa in that it is unwise and maybe even not allowed. The advice if it is not teaching is very good. Let me give you my quick spill on me. I attended various denominational church growing up with my mother. Dad was the Catholic and was really never there. He was military, deployed to Vietnam. After he returned, they divorced - yes a determination of nullity was issued. I moved to live with dad when I was 12, didn’t really attend mass but off and on, didn’t understand the difference. But began at 14 almost 15. Soon after I moved to country in the midst of Protestant country…Southern Baptist mostly, some Pentecostal or Holiness as they said. The closest Catholic Church was about 25 to 30 miles. My then stepmother was not Catholic and dad was still not around. He dumped me on grandparents and then stepmother…long story. Dad finally got me a car when he realized I was missing mass. But left me there again. * By this time I was accustomed to attending bible class and worship. Much of the teachings are not even close to Catholic teaching and predisposed to anti-Catholicism whether meaning to or not. Needless to say I didn’t go to CCD and read my bible constantly. I grew up in a mostly Protestant atmosphere. I was convinced early on the the bible only was the best and really only prefered method to know truth. Years later even aftermoving to a large Catholic city I even went to seminary. My own Catholic family was already poisoned by anti-Catholic movements in the region. Catholicism was seen as optional by most Catholics. I joined the Army and went off into more anti-Catholic atmosphere…even forced to attend a Protestant military worship in training once and the anti-Catholic sermon by a Protestant chaplain was enought then they tried to get us. When I met my now wife, they were real heavy duty proselytizers that ultimately convinced me that I’d go to hell. I was searching for reasons I won’t go into. I was worried about whether or not Catholicism was real by this time. I heard so many people even in my Protestant and Catholic family that ultimately I got baptized in the church of Christ and thought that I was now safe. I then got married to her and that’s when I really realized the disparity of cult. I realized the hard way the major differences between our faiths and my conscience.

Long story short. Don’t attend unless you have to like me. I’m doing it out of charity towards my wife and mother-in-law that doesn’t know we’re Catholic. She beleives we’re attending a non-denominational church that takes weekly communion and sings praises and hymns, has elders and deacons, …all true but not what she thinks. With that she still worries about our salvation not being in the churches of Christ. So you should be careful not to participate. I concede to Fr.Serpa not because I just agree with him, but he is a priest as well caring for sheep. But if you are Catholic, you should contact your parish pastor and ask him what you are posing here. He has responsibility over you, like it or not. He is your pastor, which carefully defines that if he says no, then the answer is simply no. I’m sure there are some limitations. But you must use your spiritual cognitive abilities [learning Catholic Teaching] to work out your faith with fear and trembling.

God luck.
PAX Christi tecum*
 
Wow…there you go. You get both Catholic Teaching from the Catechism of the Catholic Church with testimony from me as to the wisdom of that teaching. I was not as strong as I thought. Arrogance and/or pride can cause one to fall into doubting. God blessed me by bringing me back home. I know pasors, prachers that are Protestant now, and I really feel sorrow for them. I hope for their sakes they are truly ignorant of the truth. Pray the Divine Mercy, it is wonderful and hopefully our prayers will cover all of them along with Protestant prayers for God’s infinite mercy. Just remember that this is a hope, not an absolute.

Jesus I trust in you.
 
Nobody but you said “Scripture reading class.” We’re discussing “Bible study” and that isn’t really even the point of the OP entirely.

Anyway, I’m done discussing this here, there’s no good end that will come of this conversation really… Especially being in the non-Catholic board… If you wish to start the discussion up somewhere else, please point me to the post and I will join there to the best of my abilities.
You still haven’t answered my question…
 
You still haven’t answered my question…
Your question does not pertain to the discussion… I have no reason to define a “scripture reading class” I think you defined that on your own. I never used those words to describe it. Besides, I did say if you point me to a thread outside the non-catholic forum, I would discuss further.
 
Your question does not pertain to the discussion… I have no reason to define a “scripture reading class” I think you defined that on your own. I never used those words to describe it. Besides, I did say if you point me to a thread outside the non-catholic forum, I would discuss further.
Why dance around the question here? I guess you cannot answer it, therefore, you cannot say anything about the ‘Catholic’ bible studies if you yourself do not know.
 
Why dance around the question here? I guess you cannot answer it, therefore, you cannot say anything about the ‘Catholic’ bible studies if you yourself do not know.
You can perceive it as dancing around the question if you like. You are free to message me in private regarding this if you like. I’m not discussing it here, I already stated that.
 
You can perceive it as dancing around the question if you like. You are free to message me in private regarding this if you like. I’m not discussing it here, I already stated that.
Ok, then forget it. A simple answer for a simple question. Geez…🤷
 
My priest doesn’t say that. He is young, vibrant, full of life and love for God. He reads Scripture then defines it, he asks questions etc…
I don’t quite get what you are looking for. Are you looking for hooting and hollering? What do you think bible reading is then?
Yeah, you’re right, When I say I want something more than shallow discussions of how Scripture makes us feel, as if we’re Mormons or something and our faith is based off of that, I mean I want hooting and hollering.

I want to learn about the stories. I want to learn about the people. I want to learn about what it says. I want to learn how different parts of the Bible connect with one another, for example, how a writer in the NT uses what a writer in the OT said. I want, on one hand, to study it like I would study any other text, but also do so in a prayerful manner because reading Scripture should be an encounter with God. And then finally, practically applying it to my life.

But the Catholic Bible studies I’ve been to have been more along the lines of, “How does this statement of Jesus make you feel inside?” It’s all about self-affirmation before God.
 
Yeah, you’re right, When I say I want something more than shallow discussions of how Scripture makes us feel, as if we’re Mormons or something and our faith is based off of that, I mean I want hooting and hollering.

I want to learn about the stories. I want to learn about the people. I want to learn about what it says. I want to learn how different parts of the Bible connect with one another, for example, how a writer in the NT uses what a writer in the OT said. I want, on one hand, to study it like I would study any other text, but also do so in a prayerful manner because reading Scripture should be an encounter with God. And then finally, practically applying it to my life.

But the Catholic Bible studies I’ve been to have been more along the lines of, “How does this statement of Jesus make you feel inside?” It’s all about self-affirmation before God.
What about following the correct bible? Never mind anything else here. I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill, no?
My priest is nothing as your saying.
 
i got this from a website. teaching the Bible. from a baptist.
which is contrary to what we believe. dangerous teaching.

It is impossible to vote when you left the real answer off of your list.

God is the pillar and foundation of truth. Not the church. You are misreading the text. You are interpreting it according to catholic theology instead of reading it as it should be read.

1 Timothy 3:15> If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in Gods household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

Accurately read, the “pillar and foundation of truth” is referring to “the living God” in this verse.

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Really? What saint do you take after?
I’m sorry I don’t understand the point of your question? I didn’t claim to “take after” any saint. Do you mean that because I am not perfect I cannot express my opinions?
 
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