Catholics Converting to Non Denominational

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if medical science couldn’t help how did you think the Church could help? For that matter, how can a non-denominational church help? Does music and feel good sermons ease your condition? What happens if you do attend this church and then nothing changes? Won’t you be right back where you started?
What you say makes a lot of sense.
like I posted upthread, after reading one of the pastor’s email about more of their beliefs regarding the Bible, I’ll pass.
Post 118, appears OP has made decision to forego the nearby non denominational church.

Good advice upthread to stay away from posting on forum, not helpful for OCD.
 
if medical science couldn’t help how did you think the Church could help? For that matter, how can a non-denominational church help? Does music and feel good sermons ease your condition? What happens if you do attend this church and then nothing changes? Won’t you be right back where you started?
In a way, you’re right. The RCC does not help people emotionally. (I know it does run many charities.)

However, a helpful mentor and role model as well as community support can go far, much further, than medication, in some cases, in helping people overcome any sort of problem.

No, if she attends this church and nothing changes, she won’t be “right back where [she] started.” She’ll know one thing, besides Catholicism, that does not work for her.
 
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I would seriously start going to another parish for Sunday mass even if you stick with that one to complete RE. It has to be hard for you too, if this place is that condescending toward non-Catholics and is that non-inspiring for all involved.
Good advice. It’s obvious her current parish isn’t for her.
 
My wife has brought it up a couple of times this year, but there isn’t much to choose from… It’s the town parish or the country one. She left the country parish for the town one because their RE program was awesome…well that changed to a family program so she’s opened the book on going back to the country.
 
You say that this is not a prayer to Mary??
you can pray to Mary. ‘Pray’ means to “ask” you can ask anyone to intercede for you to Jesus. It’s why we ask people to pray for us.

Over time, protestants have capitalized the term ‘to pray’ to mean ‘to worship’ but this isn’t the correct concept.

Some prayer is worship and some prayer is intercessory. All prayers to Mary are intercessory only, never worship.
 
still intercessory prayer. No mention of divinity or worship. And not all praise is worship.
 
Do you mean usher, lector etc? Nah, I’d rather participate than busy myself volunteering during Mass
how is ushering or lectoring not participating? Are the servers and the choir not participating?
 
I think THIS is what this thread is really about. I’m sorry you are going through this. I wonder if some of our other posters who struggle with OCD have had a similar experience. It sounds to me like this isn’t so much a struggle to shop for the church with the most pros and cons or the church that is most true so much as it is a struggle to find peace. God bless you and I sincerely hope you are able to find peace. ❤️
Thank you so much!
 
Honestly what Hope is describing sounds more like issues with ADHD. I have OCD and, like everyone,can be distracted but OCD isn’t usually distinguished by attention problems. (I’m not trying to diagnosis or doubt her experiences either…it’s possible she may have some ADHD…it’s pretty common and a comorbid diagnosis isn’t unheard of.)

Either way, Hope, perhaps seek out an Eastern Catholic church? The Divine Liturgy is often more involved and could help hold your attention better. You’re in my prayers…I know what it’s like to want a good spiritual home.
I’m absolutely positive that I have OCD but I’ve sometimes wondered if I also have ADD. Not ADHD, but ADD. I might talk to my doctor about this the next time I see him, in December.
 
Thanks, but after receiving a reply to my email from their pastor last night, I’ve decided to stay put for now. If my beliefs regarding the Bible change in the future, then I might try their church again.
 
I will often have an obsession and then can’t do my typical compulsion while I’m there so the obsession festers in my mind and I can’t concentrate. But that’s just sometimes. Other times it’s like I said before - boredom, noisy kids and seniors, music practice etc.
 
I totally agree with you there. It waxes and wanes all on its own, where usually I have no idea why. I’ve only recently began to think that this is a cross I’ll have to bear my entire life.
 
Any visible church can be attacked from outside or inside, or fade away, or fall apart, or be destroyed. I wish it wasn’t true, but unfortunately it is
the visible Church can’t be destroyed. We have that promise from Jesus.
 
What do you mean by an “unspoken layer” to the OCD?
I meant that what is actually bothering you might not be something you talked about in this thread.

Edit: looks like you explained a few posts above this one.
 
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I will often have an obsession and then can’t do my typical compulsion while I’m there so the obsession festers in my mind and I can’t concentrate. But that’s just sometimes. Other times it’s like I said before - boredom, noisy kids and seniors, music practice etc.
Thank you for the reply, and good luck.

I don’t have OCD, but the times I’ve gone to church with Catholic friends, those things bothered me no end, too.

I don’t think other religions should copy mine, but I do think there should be quiet in the sanctuary. There are other rooms to quiet noisy kids, practice, socialize, etc. If someone’s practicing at that late date, it’s too late. LOL It’s like learning Hebrew ten minutes before you’re called to read the Torah parashat. Not going to happen.
 
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At mass I know I am an essential and vital part of the offering to God that it is. Each response I give, I say from the heart as if Jesus were standing right in front of me (and of course, he IS). And the Achilles heel for me was the randomness of theology that would creep in around the edges thanks to the practical outworking of sola scriptura. In the finer points I found the theology sloppy and man-driven, and the SS-driven disunity so disheartening.
Maybe I need to remind myself that Jesus IS standing right in front of me when I give my responses. Also, like I’ve already said, I disagree with this non denom’s beliefs about the Bible.
 
The pastor I’ve been communicating with has already asked me if I’ve accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
 
if medical science couldn’t help how did you think the Church could help?
Sounds like a wrong use of Church.
The purpose of Church and religion is to bring us to Truth.
The purpose of medical science is to cure or ameliorate disease.
There is some protective effect that religious practice in general has on mental health , but it was never meant to be a preventive or a cure.
So to link mental health to any particular religion is very inaccurate.
 
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