Catholics Converting to Non Denominational

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Hope1960 said:
I read that Catholic Churches are quickly losing members, who very often convert to non denominational churches.
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While driving, I was listening to Sean Hannity a few days ago and I thought he said something like he had converted to being a non-denominational Christian and was no longer Catholic.
 
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This non denominational church believes in Biblical inerrancy, that it’s scientifically and historically accurate.
I’ve always thought much of Genesis was errant with regards to those two things. What do you all think?
 
UltimateChikorita said:
The main reason Catholics convert to Protestantism is because of a lack of catechism.
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Not in my experience. In fact many have similar experience to those who converted to P , who were very well catechized, even clergy or nuns. Just look at the reformers also.
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and most importantly, no salvation (for the most part)
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well, certainly not true with their catechism, not sure if that even gels with Catholic catechism.
UltimateChikorita said:
Do not use experience as a guide for religion.
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Yes , that is what the Sanhedrin and Pharisees pretty much said to the healed blind man. In the end was the blind man wrong then in testifying his experience with Jesus, and saying , “One thing I know, I was blind but now I see.” ?

And as the older parents said of their once blind son to the Pharisees, " He is of age, let him speak, testify, for himself." Indeed, his experience led him to better theological reasoning surrounding Jesus than that of the long established spiritual leaders and teachers who claimed rest in Moses.

I would then add to your post here to also beware of using tradition and self claims to resting in righteous forefathers as a guideline.

All things in their (His) proper place.
UltimateChikorita said:
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus,
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Amen, just as there is one body of Christ, to which we are all baptized into.
 
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mcq72 said:
who were very well catechized, even clergy or nuns. Just look at the reformers also.
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Clergy and nuns converted to Protestantism? Can you give me a few examples?
 
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I don’t remember now what two things I was responding to. I tried to find the post up thread but there’s too many posts to sort through. I might’ve been talking about evolution and or the Flood.
 
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Are there any current ND Christians/ Former Catholics here who can explain how they reconcile the usual ND beliefs in Creationism, fossils, Flood, and problems with there being a human population bottleneck vs science being certain there was none, with their own personal beliefs?
 
Hope1960 said:
As many of you know, I’ve been interested in learning more about a non denominational church nearby. From what I read so far during my research into these types of churches, they are the fastest growing Christian churches in the USA.
Also, I read that Catholic Churches are quickly losing members, who very often convert to non denominational churches.
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One issue that causes exodus, is divorce and remarriage without an annulment. That action describes living in mortal sin. No one is to receive the Eucharist in mortal sin. So Catholics who can’t receive the Eucharist leave rather than deal with their condition.
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Hope1960:
after going to a non denominational church for the first time, comparing the service in a Catholic Church to the non denom church is sort of like comparing an 8 Track tape to a CD.
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We are not at mass to be entertained.
Here’s something to consider…….seriously

Heb 10 is talking about deliberately missing Mass (The Eucharist) on Sunday

Heb 10: (all emphasis mine) . 25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. 26 For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there [uno longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful prospect of judgment,and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.[/u] 28 A man who has violated the law of Moses dies without mercy at the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace?30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

Unpacking that

when they meet what are they doing? They are celebrating the Eucharist
the “sacrifice for sin”, (v 26 ) & and; “blood of the covenant”( v 29) = the words Our Lord spoke instituting the Eucharist Matthew 26:28 & Mark 14:24

those who deliberately fail to celebrate the Eucharist on Sunday after being given the knowledge of truth, (v 25 - 26) ◦ there no longer remains, a sacrifice for sin and blood of the covenant for THEM( v 26) but a fearful prospect of judgement awaits Them (v 27) ◦ and a fury of fire will consume these adversaries (v 27) ◦ They Spurn the Son of God (v 29) ◦ They outrage the spirit of grace (v 29)

Based on those consequences,
That’s not a suggestion but a command to attend Mass on Sunday. Deliberately Missing mass is mortal sin and the consequences on ones soul described is dire.
 
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steve-b said:
One issue that causes exodus, is divorce and remarriage without an annulment. That action describes living in mortal sin. No one is to receive the Eucharist in mortal sin. So Catholics who can’t receive the Eucharist leave rather than deal with their condition.
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I agree and have seen that, myself.
 
there is a recent revert to the catholic church,who became a christian apologist for 11 yrs . he compared catholics, who have converted to evangelical churches and vice versa. those ex catholics were uncatechized or know nothing about their former faith .in contrast,ex protestants were educated from prominent evangelical colleges/universities ,professional theologians,best and brightest pastors et al.his name is luis dizon and was a graduate of wycliffe college.i believed he just reverted to catholicism this past oct .
 
silvano said:
there is a recent revert to the catholic church,who became a christian apologist for 11 yrs . he compared catholics, who have converted to evangelical churches and vice versa. those ex catholics were uncatechized or know nothing about their former faith .in contrast,ex protestants were educated from prominent evangelical colleges/universities ,professional theologians,best and brightest pastors et al.his name is luis dizon and was a graduate of wycliffe college.i believed he just reverted to catholicism this past oct
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I hear Muslims say this all the time too that only Muslims who knew nothing of the faith left for others.
 
fbl9 said:
Is it because one understands the teachings they receive that they believe?
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IMO, you need to understand to fully believe but just because you fully understand doesn’t mean you will believe. I think some people here will disagree with me on that.
 
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