Catholics for a free choice?

[Franciscan]

life.org.nz/abortionaboutabortioncontroversy15.htm

Some facts about CFFC:
It is reliant on funding from the Ford Foundation, Playboy Foundation and other organisations who oppose the Catholic Church’s teachings on sexuality

Its president, Frances Kissling, long ago excommunicated herself from the Catholic Church for illegally operating abortion clinics overseas

One of Kissling’s longtime associates, Marjorie Reiley Maguire, has testified that none of those active in CFFC attend Mass

Kissling has expressly stated (in a Mother Jones interview) that her goal is to “overthrow” the Catholic Church

Catholic bishops have twice condemned the group for falsely describing itself as Catholic

Please read the above quote and stop saying they are “misguided” as if they are victims. Maybe we could substitute the word misguided with diabolical.

 

[Melchior]

I just ran across this abomination today. I am sure some of you know about these Heretics. Catholics for a free choice…don’t they know that in itself means they are excommunicated from the Holy Mother Church and they have NO right to call themselves Catholics… :crying:
What can be done about this???

That makes about as much sense in saying the Pope is a Mormon.

 

[Nurse_Joy]

Jared, Grace, Bob,

Here is the scoop on the Ford Foundation

Created with gifts and bequests by Edsel and Henry Ford, the Foundation is an independent organization, with its own board, and is entirely separate from the Ford Motor Company.
fordfound.org/about/mission2.cfm

 

[setter]

Please read the above quote and stop saying they are “misguided” as if they are victims. Maybe we could substitute the word misguided with diabolical.

They are being misguided by the diabolical. They are victims in the sense that they have taken the bait and are now snared in open dissidence. They are the foot soldiers for the enemy to the extent that they have feely and with full knowledge enrolled themselves in conscious and scandalous public dissent. Pray for these wayward and fallen brothers and sisters in the Lord who are cooperating with the evil forces of the anti-gospel.

 

[Grace_Angel]

Please read the above quote and stop saying they are “misguided” as if they are victims. Maybe we could substitute the word misguided with diabolical.

Franciscan, I agree completely. It is diabolical.
And to read that Fkissling’s intent is to overthrow the Catholic Church? (good laugh needed it). That so much sounds like the arrogance of satan doesnt it. And of course the Holy Spirit is going to allow the Catholic church to be overthrown isnt it. For a former nun she learnt nothing, and the maguire woman (i thought she was also a former nun married to a former priest-that it’d be right) must be one of the devil’s quisslings also.
Grace Angel:angel1:

 

[BobCatholic]

Jared, Grace, Bob,

Here is the scoop on the Ford Foundation

Created with gifts and bequests by Edsel and Henry Ford, the Foundation is an independent organization, with its own board, and is entirely separate from the Ford Motor Company.
fordfound.org/about/mission2.cfm

And you forget where the money came from, right?

Where did Edsel and Henry Ford get their money from?

That’s right, us customers who bought their cars in the past.

And tell me that the Ford Foundation does not get any new money? Where do they get the new money from?

 

[puzzleannie]

hey I’m all for such an organization, they should be free to choose to profess the Catholic faith, hold and practice all the Catholic church teaches, and obey the commandments and precepts of the Church, or be free to choose to leave and set up their own religion

 

[BobCatholic]

hey I’m all for such an organization, they should be free to choose to profess the Catholic faith, hold and practice all the Catholic church teaches, and obey the commandments and precepts of the Church, or be free to choose to leave and set up their own religion

Well, they don’t profess the Catholic faith. They profess the faith of the Culture of Death, and hate the Catholic Church. They even seek to overthrow the Catholic Church.

 

[jasm]

:crying: I was looking up a certain priest in a parish I am…was… considering joining. I have gone to him several times for confession. I googled him and came up with this:
quixote.org/cso/downloads/cso_ad_nyt.pdf

His name is on this thing. Catholics for a free choice??? I am so sad. I came right to the fourms and found this thread. It confirms the sick feeling in my gut.

 

[Melchior]

What can be done? How about leaving the judging to God.

Being Pro-life and feeling strongly about a group that is pro-abortion and saying they are Catholic is judging? Well we are supposed to make judgements. If the reaction was to a group called Catholics for Genocide would you be so …ahem… judgemental?

 

[setter]

Being Pro-life and feeling strongly about a group that is pro-abortion and saying they are Catholic is judging? Well we are supposed to make judgements. If the reaction was to a group called Catholics for Genocide would you be so …ahem… judgemental?

I suppose that Jesus was judgmental too in some people’s minds:

“For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit; for each tree is known by its own fruit.” Luke 6: 43-44

 

[Franciscan]

Having good judgement is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Truthwarrior]

I have just sent “catholicsforchoice” an email through their “contact us” link telling them they are a disgrace to Catholicism. Has anybody else sent them one?

 

[a_cermak]

And you forget where the money came from, right?

Where did Edsel and Henry Ford get their money from?

That’s right, us customers who bought their cars in the past.

And tell me that the Ford Foundation does not get any new money? Where do they get the new money from?

No, it doesn’t get any new money. It’s an endowment which means it’s a body of principal and the interest is used by the Foundation each year.

So yeah, if your grandpa bought a Model T, he helped fund Catholics for a Free Choice (though a whole bunch of other programs too. Some good some not so good). On the other hand, if you bought a Ford SUV, you wouldn’t be funding it.

 

[Nurse_Joy]

Yeah, like a 10 billion dollar endowment.

Big money endowments started by or being corrupted by culture of death-ers is here and now.

If you think you are going to boycott these away, you are wrong.

 

[Traditional_Ang]

“They” is perhaps too strong a word. I heard it said once that this ‘group’ is really nothing more than Frances Kisseling and her fax machine. Sometimes absurdity gets more attention than it deserves…

Maualman:

I believe it’s Francis Kisseling and her Word Processor, Computer, Office Assistant and a couple of volunteers from Planned Parenthood.

I’ve exchanged a few letters with her - I don’t think she’s someone I care to talk to If I can help it.

YBIC,
Michael

 

[Truthwarrior]

Maualman:

I believe it’s Francis Kisseling and her Word Processor, Computer, Office Assistant and a couple of volunteers from Planned Parenthood.

I’ve exchanged a few letters with her - I don’t think she’s someone I care to talk to If I can help it.

YBIC,
Michael

Michael,

Do you think there is any mileage in bombarding “Catholicsforchoice” with emails protesting at the scandle they are causing to the Church?

 

[Monicathree]

Wow all these replies, I haven’t checked in a while…
I am really glad with some of your responses…I just resent them calling themselves Catholics…they are not. If they want to be pro murder of babies…let them call themselves by another name.

Yeah, I would like to contact them and logically hash that out. Leave our Holy Church out of your ugliness!!!

I can’t stand when people say that stating a fact of right or wrong is judgemental…Hey wait, isn’t calling someone judgemental being judgemental…duh

peace

 

[Julianna]

Again, with the boycotting…Starbucks…now Ford.

I own 3 Fords, Explorer, F-150 and a Focus. I will buy another down the road. What do you people want…everyone to get rid of their Ford’s…get a grip on a blade of grass so you won’t fall off the earth.

 

[Karin]

Again, with the boycotting…Starbucks…now Ford.

I own 3 Fords, Explorer, F-150 and a Focus. I will buy another down the road. What do you people want…everyone to get rid of their Ford’s…get a grip on a blade of grass so you won’t fall off the earth.

Julianna-
I dont think this is so much about boycotting Ford (wouldnt own one though…pieces of garabage, IMHO ) but what this group (Catholics for free choice) stands for that is the issue(s)