Catholics go to Hell?

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it’s the priests fault… and/or the bishops’…

Why aren’t they advising people to go to confession… and telling them that if they are in serious sin they cannot accept Communion?

never heard it in a homily… NEVER…
(been Catholic for about … 100 yrs… :D)
Come to my Parish.You’ll hear it repeated and repeated and repeated.And you know what?It works! more and more penitents are coming to Saturday confession.ASK your priest to do this.ASK your Bishop to direct the priests in his diocesese to do this.It works!
 
What is this thread about I was thinking it was about ,some thing about Cathloics going to hell…or did I miss the point of the question.
Dear friend,

Indeed a great many Catholics will end up in hell for not practicing there faith, and even more for leaving the Catholc Church, having been given the opportunity and blessing to have been exposed to the Singular Truth.😊🤷

Because today is “Holy Thursday,” the begaining of the the Most sacred Time of the Year, I share this information with you.

Normally I would not be so BOLD, but this is a time of Chrsitian Charity, and sharing Biblical truth, my friend, is the fullest sign of God’s love for you!

You would be well advised to put your own Spiritual House in Order, before preaching for others to do the same.

Love, Mercy and Peace to you and your’s

Pat
 
Chosen people, Fr. Feeney divested himself of these views upon his return to the CC. So, he may have held these views at one point in time but it was before and during his excommunication.

As for the concept of Hell being pagan-based (and not practiced by Monotheistic Judaism). don’t know what you mean here? Can you define Gehanna for me, and what is the difference between Gehanna and Sheol?

And just for the record the CC does not state that Jews go to hell, you only have to read our cathechism to understand this.

P.S. We are monotheistic too!
Fr Feeney who publicly referred to Jews as “Kikes” neither divested himself of his views or made any attempt to recant his anti-Semitic views toward Jews or Judaism.

Gehenom in Judaism would be similar to your purgatory.

You only have to read the threads on this forum to understand that the issue of Jews and Catholic Hell is either in contention among adherents to Catholicism or not understood by adherents to Catholicism.

P.S. Since as a Jew I know that there is only one almighty God and I have an everlasting covenant with God, and since Christianity was unable to perceive of God without the crutch of giving God a human form, even making representations in the form of statues in their houses of worship and since Christianity adopted the classic pagan myth of the man-god with the human virgin mother and Divine father who comes down to earth, performs wonders, gives his life for mankind and rejoins his father and since Christianity also rejected Torah (in its wider sense), and by doing these things thereby rejected the covenant and since on this forum even many Catholics believe that the God of the Jews and the Catholic god is not the same, we obviously can’t both be monotheist.
 
Fr Feeney who publicly referred to Jews as “Kikes” neither divested himself of his views or made any attempt to recant his anti-Semitic views toward Jews or Judaism.
Unfortunately, too many people are anti-Semitic. That does not mean that everything they say or do is wrong. Nor is it heretical. It is a sin. Freeney was wrong about a lot of things.
Gehenom in Judaism would be similar to your purgatory.
You only have to read the threads on this forum to understand that the issue of Jews and Catholic Hell is either in contention among adherents to Catholicism or not understood by adherents to Catholicism.
You cannot trust posters on the Internet to be correct about anything. Ever. The reality is that Jews that reject the grace from God for salvation will be damned, those that accept it will be saved.
P.S. Since as a Jew I know that there is only one almighty God and I have an everlasting covenant with God, and since Christianity was unable to perceive of God without the crutch of giving God a human form, even making representations in the form of statues in their houses of worship and since Christianity adopted the classic pagan myth of the man-god with the human virgin mother and Divine father who comes down to earth, performs wonders, gives his life for mankind and rejoins his father and since Christianity also rejected Torah (in its wider sense), and by doing these things thereby rejected the covenant and since on this forum even many Catholics believe that the God of the Jews and the Catholic god is not the same, we obviously can’t both be monotheist.
Do you believe that Christianity is an off-shoot of Judaism?
 
Fr Feeney who publicly referred to Jews as “Kikes” neither divested himself of his views or made any attempt to recant his anti-Semitic views toward Jews or Judaism.

Don’t know then if we are refering to the same Feeney, will have to verify this for myself.

Gehenom in Judaism would be similar to your purgatory.

You only have to read the threads on this forum to understand that the issue of Jews and Catholic Hell is either in contention among adherents to Catholicism or not understood by adherents to Catholicism.

"Modern day Judaism, even the religion practiced by the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox, is rabbinical Judaism and not biblical Judaism. The following excerpt concerning the afterlife is from the web site “Judaism 101” (emphasis mine):
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 Traditional Judaism firmly believes that death is not the end of human existence. However, because Judaism is primarily focused on life here and now rather than on the afterlife, Judaism does not have much dogma about the afterlife, and leaves a great deal of room for personal opinion. It is possible for an Orthodox Jew to believe that the souls of the righteous dead go to a place similar to the Christian heaven, or that they are reincarnated through many lifetimes, or that they simply wait until the coming of the messiah, when they will be resurrected. Likewise, Orthodox Jews can believe that the souls of the wicked are tormented by demons of their own creation, or that wicked souls are simply destroyed at death, ceasing to exist."
members.tripod.com/lastdayscalendar/annihilation_or_torment_.htm

Gehennom (lit: the valley of Hinnom, in Jerusalem;
i.e. hell) is the sinner’s experience in the afterlife. In other
words, it’s the same “place” as gan eiden (lit: the garden of Eden;
i.e. heaven) – it’s the perspective of the individual that makes it
one or the other.

faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-9.html

“Not all souls merit Gehenom. It is for people who have done good but need to be purified. A handful of people are too evil for Gehenom, and they are punished eternally. Pharaoh is one example.”

judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o/bl_simmons_afterlife.htm

“At least in the postexilic portions of the Hebrew Bible (those written after the Babylonian captivity), death does not hold the same fate for all. The unjust, the improperly buried, and the untimely dead endure the misery of Sheol, but, for those who die in God’s favour, the natural bitterness of death is mitigated by reunion with their ancestors. Late prophetic books, concerned with the vindication of God’s justice, warn of a coming “Day of the Lord” in which the wicked will be burned up like stubble (Malachi 4:1), the corpses of God’s enemies will suffer endless corruption (Isaiah 66:24), and evildoers who have died will be resurrected to “shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2) while the just enjoy the fulfillment of God’s promises. In some postbiblical Jewish writings, Gehenna, the incineration ground where children had once been sacrificed to the god Moloch, emerges as a realm of postmortem punishment more like hell than Sheol. In Gehenna the unjust dead would suffer a fiery torment of duration and severity proportionate to their crimes.”

britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/260218/hell/260268/Judaism

I am little confused, does this mean that Judaism may have mulitple ideas of the afterlife.

P.S. . . . since on this forum even many Catholics believe that the God of the Jews and the Catholic god is not the same, we obviously can’t both be monotheist.
Firstly, I do not believe you when you say many Catholics state the God of the Jews is not the same as ours. Secondly, even if some misguided Catholics (sedevantists or SSPX perhaps, who are not in union with the CC) stated this, there are not adhering to the CCC, that is, the Cathechism of the Catholic Church.

I would advise you my friend to tone down your response when writing to me, I am not your enemy.
 
chosen people, I have confirmed the veracity of your statement, he was anti-semitic. But he was also excommunicated by the Church and was reconciled only at his death to the CC.
 
chosen people, I have confirmed the veracity of your statement, he was anti-semitic. But he was also excommunicated by the Church and was reconciled only at his death to the CC.
He was reconciled in 1972, six years before his death.
 
He was reconciled in 1972, six years before his death.
“Ordered to stop teaching his interpretation, Feeney refused and was excommunicated, not technically for teaching heresy but for disobedience. He was reconciled to the Church before his death, and the excommunication was lifted. Some of his followers have tried to construe the reconciliation as a Vatican affirmation of Feeney’s theology, but, since the excommunication did not extend beyond a matter of obedience, the lifting of it did not extend any further.”

catholic.com/newsletters/kke_040113.asp

I think I may have misunderstood the part I emboldened, I thought it meant, literally before his death (dying). Thanks for the clarification.
 
Do you truly find that “not in full communion with the one unique subsistence of the Catholic Church” is more precise than “outside of the Catholic Church”?
Yes. (Sorry it took me so long to answer such a simple question. I’ve been on this forum a few times today, but for some reason or other I didn’t check this particular thread.)
 
=chosen people;5058568]Fr Feeney who publicly referred to Jews as “Kikes” neither divested himself of his views or made any attempt to recant his anti-Semitic views toward Jews or Judaism.
Gehenom in Judaism would be similar to your purgatory.
You only have to read the threads on this forum to understand that the issue of Jews and Catholic Hell is either in contention among adherents to Catholicism or not understood by adherents to Catholicism.
Two things my friend.

Any and all informed practicing Christians, and especailly Catholics should recall that “Father Abraham” and Jesus Himself (as well as Mary His Mother) are all Jewish. Therefore, it is absurd to assert that we who desend from Jewish Ancestory, hold “anti-sematic” views.

With over a Billion Catholics world wide, no doubt their are some that do, but they are viewed by us with the same distain for there views as you have.

As one with over 1,000 post, I can never recall a Catholic misunderstanding of Hell. Of Purgatory yes, Hell, no.

One does see active debate on these doctrines from many Protestants. And yet the Catholic position is biblical.
P.S. Since as a Jew I know that there is only one almighty God and I have an everlasting covenant with God, and since Christianity was unable to perceive of God without the crutch of giving God a human form, even making representations in the form of statues in their houses of worship and since Christianity adopted the classic pagan myth of the man-god with the human virgin mother and Divine father who comes down to earth, performs wonders, gives his life for mankind and rejoins his father and since Christianity also rejected Torah (in its wider sense), and by doing these things thereby rejected the covenant and since on this forum even many Catholics believe that the God of the Jews and the Catholic god is not the same, we obviously can’t both be monotheist.
How kind of you to share this.

The Jewish nation (not all Jews) failed to recogonize the long awaithed Messiah! Why, because when The Messiah came, He didn’t fit your role model of what He should be and do!

So, you can tell God how to act? Interesting. I don’t seem to find that in your History?

Love and prayers dear friend,

There is much historical evidence to support Jesus as Messiah! Many. many, Jews did believe and were saved.

LIke Jesus said: “many are called, but few are chosen!” “Enter by the narrow gate.”
 
Two things my friend.

Any and all informed practicing Christians, and especailly Catholics should recall that “Father Abraham” and Jesus Himself (as well as Mary His Mother) are all Jewish. Therefore, it is absurd to assert that we who desend from Jewish Ancestory, hold “anti-sematic” views.

With over a Billion Catholics world wide, no doubt their are some that do, but they are viewed by us with the same distain for there views as you have.

As one with over 1,000 post, I can never recall a Catholic misunderstanding of Hell. Of Purgatory yes, Hell, no.

One does see active debate on these doctrines from many Protestants. And yet the Catholic position is biblical.

How kind of you to share this.

The Jewish nation (not all Jews) failed to recogonize the long awaithed Messiah! Why, because when The Messiah came, He didn’t fit your role model of what He should be and do!

So, you can tell God how to act? Interesting. I don’t seem to find that in your History?

Love and prayers dear friend,

There is much historical evidence to support Jesus as Messiah! Many. many, Jews did believe and were saved.

LIke Jesus said: “many are called, but few are chosen!” “Enter by the narrow gate.”
Most Catholics are not descended from Jews. The Jews did not abandon their covenant with God.

The differences of opinion among Catholic posters is whether Jews are destined to Catholic Hell for their belief in God.

Indeed it is God who tells us how to act. That is why the Jews did not reject God and the covenant. They also did not accept Shabtai Zvi. I am glad that you have “historical evidence” for your religious beliefs. Jewish history is three thousand years old. When I celebrated the Passover Seder last night I was celebrating the history of people that I am directly descended from.
 
Do you believe that Christianity is an off-shoot of Judaism?
If a group of Muslims declared that Mohamed was in fact Allah, that you were to worship not five times a day but once a week, that you were to face Rome not Mecca, that you should wear shoes in a Mosque and place statues of Mohamed there and that it was now okay to eat pork, would their religion be an off-shoot of Islam or its antithesis?
 
=chosen people;5062162]Most Catholics are not descended from Jews. The Jews did not abandon their covenant with God.
Shaloam my friend!

This very day, “Good Frday” is the day that Jesus was nailed to the Cross, died and Redeemed us:thumbsup:

From the Cross, Jesus sopoke these words:

John 19: "25 So the soldiers did this. But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.

2 Cor. 6: " 17 Therefore come out from them, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch nothing unclean; then I will welcome you, 18* and I will be a father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty."

Eph. 1: 5 “He destined us in love to be his sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,”
The differences of opinion among Catholic posters is whether Jews are destined to Catholic Hell for their belief in God.
Yes, I have seen some rather uninligntened POST on this topic.

As I have said. there will be Jews, Catholics, and many others in both Hell and Heaven.

It is how we accept and apply God’s merciful Grace!
Indeed it is God who tells us how to act. That is why the Jews did not reject God and the covenant. They also did not accept Shabtai Zvi. I am glad that you have “historical evidence” for your religious beliefs. Jewish history is three thousand years old. When I celebrated the Passover Seder last night I was celebrating the history of people that I am directly descended from.
Amen brother!

I have been to several Seder celebrations. They are quite profound and beautiful. But our history too goes back the same 3000 years.

The Bible has to parts the Old Testament (Jewish History) and the New Testament (Chrsitian History). Friend, we are linked, by the same God:thumbsup:

Love and prayers,
 
If a group of Muslims declared that Mohamed was in fact Allah, that you were to worship not five times a day but once a week, that you were to face Rome not Mecca, that you should wear shoes in a Mosque and place statues of Mohamed there and that it was now okay to eat pork, would their religion be an off-shoot of Islam or its antithesis?
Offshoot. Just because it is different does not make it less of an offshoot.

This post shows a lack of historical understanding. If I may be so bold as to re-write it so that it is more correct…

If a group of Muslims recognized that what Muhammed said meant that he claimed to be Allah AND he had worked great signs to that effect, and that group realized that Islam had done a horrible job of bringing non-Arabs to the True God, and that group began to bring non-Arabs into faith in the One True God, and that group said that these converts did not have to follow all of the food laws, and that group was KICKED OUT of fellowship with the other Muslims, and because of that they shifted meathod of worship to a once weekly one not involving Mecca, it would still be an offshoot.

If the Covenant with the Jews was going to bring all Nations to God, either the Jews were supposed to teach others or God was going to do it himself. I cannot speak on the latter one, but I can say that there was no evidence that the former ever once happened on a large scale. It is one reason Jesus spoke about the servant who was given money yet refused to invest it. The Jews were like that. They had the most precious of gifts: knowledge of the True God and they did not bring others to Him. Even now, Jews do not try to teach others and bring them into unity. Why is that?
 
=ralphinal;5064605]Offshoot. Just because it is different does not make it less of an offshoot.
This post shows a lack of historical understanding. If I may be so bold as to re-write it so that it is more correct…
If a group of Muslims recognized that what Muhammed said meant that he claimed to be Allah AND he had worked great signs to that effect, and that group realized that Islam had done a horrible job of bringing non-Arabs to the True God, and that group began to bring non-Arabs into faith in the One True God, and that group said that these converts did not have to follow all of the food laws, and that group was KICKED OUT of fellowship with the other Muslims, and because of that they shifted meathod of worship to a once weekly one not involving Mecca, it would still be an offshoot.
If the Covenant with the Jews was going to bring all Nations to God, either the Jews were supposed to teach others or God was going to do it himself. I cannot speak on the latter one, but I can say that there was no evidence that the former ever once happened on a large scale. It is one reason Jesus spoke about the servant who was given money yet refused to invest it. The Jews were like that. They had the most precious of gifts: knowledge of the True God and they did not bring others to Him. Even now, Jews do not try to teach others and bring them into unity. Why is that?
Well done Brother Ralph,:tiphat:

Your teaching, not just sharing! Thanks!
 
By Ralph: “Even now, Jews do not try to teach others and bring them into unity. Why is that?”
Yes, being a “practicing Jew” is very much like being a member of some very exclusice fraternity!

Being a Chrsitian, is much more like being part of a Community of believers, ever-seeking to add to it’s ranks.

That is a profound difference!

One might also mention, that the State of Isreal, has NO NATIONAL religion, and yet the “Jewish people” seem to still consider themselves “God’s chosen ones.” Where is the evidence of this? In other words, as “a people” it seems that they have again abondoned God.

The Catholic Church is the new home of the “New Covenanat in MY BLOOD” and therefore we, not the Jews are God’s chosen people in the present times. Catholism is the largest Christian sec, in the world today. Because Gos is on our side.

Love and prayers,
 
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