Catholics Still Leaving in Droves?

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It’s ok homeward bound. I live in a college town (two liberal arts colleges no less!) and when I went through RCIA 6 years ago there were only two of us. The Director of the program had a loose program with a lot of new age type stuff in it as well. But I went through it anyway because I knew God wanted me to as well. Stick with it… you will be blessed!

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Steph
 
It’s ok homeward bound. I live in a college town (two liberal arts colleges no less!) and when I went through RCIA 6 years ago there were only two of us. The Director of the program had a loose program with a lot of new age type stuff in it as well. But I went through it anyway because I knew God wanted me to as well. Stick with it… you will be blessed!

in Christ
Steph
Thank you very much! 🙂
 
I’m glad that so many are joining RCIA elsewhere. The group I’m in only has maybe 6-8 people in it. Then again the church here also is guilty of several liturgical abuses and does things in order to appease the worldliness of the college students rather then to obey God. The RCIA director herself has told me that Eucharistic Adoration is “pointless” and shouldn’t evenb be done anymore. God has let me know I am to stay in the RCIA program, though I’m not yet sure why, but me and my boyfriend are fairly certain we’re going to attend weekly mass elsewhere.

As long as their teachings of the basics are alright then I’ll stay…I crave to join the Church along with the many others out there.

Sorry, I went off topic a bit with my ranting.
Can she tell you why she believes adoring God is “pointless”? Could it be she doesn’t believe in the Real Presence? I’m an RCIA team member at my parish and I’m shocked to read such things!
 
Did I say that anyone would come knocking on your door if you didn’t. No. That means one thing. You are lieing about what I said. Does your “church” allow liars? If it does it isn’t true. If you do you aren’t even close.

So why do I know catholics that strive to tithe yet you say it is not required? Because you guys are so inconsistent from town to town that it is embarrassing. One more proof that Christ is not guiding your church. No two members believe the same thing.
Yes our Church allows liars.

She also allows thieves, adulterers, and murderers.

She allows anybody, for we all sin, and God forgives our sins.

Striving to tithe is not the same as being required to tithe.

Some Catholics you say strive to tithe, good for them. But it is not a requirement.

Christ is guiding our Church, as it is the Church He founded.
 
It has happened often in the vast history of the Church that the numbers of the faithful have dwindled in the face of heresy and unfaithfulness. Recall that the Arian heresy, which lasted from the 4th to the 7th century, at one time claimed up to two-thirds of all bishops before finally dying out, and the Church finally regained it’s orthodoxy and numbers. Similarly, when droves of people followed ther political leaders into Protestantism after the “Reformation,” the Blessed Virgin Mary, as Our Lady of Guadelupe, came to the Americas and preciptated the conversion of millions, effectively replacing in number the apostates that had been led astray.
I can’t presume to speak for your particular ecclesial non-Catholic faith community, but secular and Protestant publications that I’ve read point out the growing number of Protestants (especially evangelicals) that are headed for the huge mega-churches where style triumphs over substance and show over content, giving people feel-good easy-believism. As this trend continues, smaller ecclesial non-Catholic faith communities are dying out along with the historic Reformation-era bodies (though of course more denominations are always popping up – seven a week by some tallies). I personally see this trend as one of the death-knells for serious Evangelical Protestantism.

Meanwhile the Catholic Church rolls on and on, just as Jesus said it would (Matthew 16:18)…
I don’t think the mega-church is only a Protestant phenomena. My parish is growing like crazy. It’s a rather conservative parish in a growing area of town, but I get the feeling that a lot of people from other parts of town are coming to our parish as well. The priest mentioned yesterday the parish had grown from 1500 families five years ago to 2700 families today. There are over 8500 members in the parish. I think many people would rather be members of a large parish than a small parish. In fact my parish is located within a mile of the huge Protestant mega-church in town. The 10:30 services for both congregations get out at the same time and cause a traffic jam …
 
Does anyone know the current state of the Catholic Church in America with respect to Catholics leaving to join Protestant or Bible Christian churches?

Has there been any improvement on this front in, say, the last 10 years?

Hard numbers would be appreciated, if there are any available.
I think if you look at the number of annulments handed out, Catholics who are pro-abortion, use birth control, don’t attend Mass regularly, divorced and remarried, I would say that the Catholic Church in America is in very poor shape.

I read on a Catholic news site that priests in India and Africa consider North America and Europe mission territory now, and that we have to evangelized because the Gospel is lost here.

Without the huge influx of Latinos, I think the Church would’ve seen a huge decline in America.

Basically if you look at the number of practicing Catholics today (I can’t stress practicing enough) in America, compared to 50-100 years ago. I would say the Church has been decimated and lost most to money worship, humanism, relativism, agnosticism etc…
 
Can she tell you why she believes adoring God is “pointless”? Could it be she doesn’t believe in the Real Presence? I’m an RCIA team member at my parish and I’m shocked to read such things!
From what I got from her she just thinks its one of many Church practices that are behind the times. I’m not sure if she believes in the Real Presence or not, though I suppose I will find out more when we go over that in RCIA, since it is scheduled to be discussed.
 
If that be so why in the land of the Buffalo Bills has the parish closed all bur three Catholic Elamentary School and several High Schools in a donemitly Catholic county, Why in a little city south of here closed two of their three churches. Aren’t you catholic having babies any more.

allischalmers
Probably because of demographic shifts. It happens sometimes, not only with RC Churches but with any religious body.
 
I can speak for our Parish in Kansas; I am on the RCIA team. We have over 90 catechumen in this year’s class. Almost without exception, they are converts from other Fundamentalist/evangelical Christian denominations.

Our Parish is bursting at-the-seams with over 1500 FAMILIES…and as we get teased about the large size of our Catholic families, this translates into a large number of parishioners.

We don’t seem to be loosing folks…just gaining them for Christ!
I never thought 1500 was bursting at the seams? The main parish here in our town has 6,000 families…
 
Does anyone know the current state of the Catholic Church in America with respect to Catholics leaving to join Protestant or Bible Christian churches?

Has there been any improvement on this front in, say, the last 10 years?

Hard numbers would be appreciated, if there are any available.
Only read the OP, but its about quality not quantity.
We want truly faithful souls to the Lord in the Church, not just converts. Some convert for marriage, family, money, adoption, etc…
 
Actually, I am hearing there is a large exodus of Protestants leaving their churches and becoming Catholic… which I think replace the number of Catholics who leave the Church.

Cite Article:

catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0252.html

I also heard that since the Pope John Paul II’s death, there has been a increase in converts going to the Catholic Church.
Probably a lot of uncatechized OR nominal Catholics are leaving for “Bible (only) Churches” but once all grown up, they come running Home again.

I’ve heard it said that “Religion is man trying to reach God.”

“piece it together as you go” protestantism is man trying to understand God. The longer you work at it, the closer you get to the Catholic Church. In Education we call that “bottoms-up processing.” Piecing it together from small parts to the whole.

The Catholic Church is the opposite. Here is the FULL GOSPEL Church, in its entirety.

#1 Be baptized in the Church, Accept it FIRST, then grow up in understanding of it. In Education, we call that TOP DOWN processing. Begin with the “WHOLE enchilada,” then come to understand the bits and pieces. 😃
 
Per Georgetown University…US Catholic Population in:

1960 - 45.6 million
1975 - 48.7 million
1985 - 52.3 million
1995 - 57.4 million
2000 - 59.9 million
2005 - 64.8 million

Does not sound to me like Catholics are leaving the Church in droves… hmmm.
As an Australian not familiar with the scene in the USA, how much of that would be due to the increasing Latin influence due to immigration?

I remember my old Protestant pastor commenting that he thought the Latins would eventually make Catholicism the majority Christian denomination in the US.
 
As an Australian not familiar with the scene in the USA, how much of that would be due to the increasing Latin influence due to immigration?

I remember my old Protestant pastor commenting that he thought the Latins would eventually make Catholicism the majority Christian denomination in the US.
That has already happened. If you were to count all mainline Protestants, all Baptist or all Pentecostals as single denominations the numbers may be different.
 
My Our Parish is bursting at-the-seams with over 2500 members…In fact we have to be at church at 10.15 for a 11 clock mass.
We also have 35 new RCIA and its getting bigger my the year.
T
hank God

PS and we have 3 mass a day on Sunday and of course a mass on sat,
 
As an Australian not familiar with the scene in the USA, how much of that would be due to the increasing Latin influence due to immigration?

I remember my old Protestant pastor commenting that he thought the Latins would eventually make Catholicism the majority Christian denomination in the US.
I think you will find those number highly correlate to the increased number of latin-Americans in the United States over that same time period. I think you will also find that people are far more willing than ever to change denominations, just like changing jobs. It’s almost expected that one will change churches at one time or another.
 
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