Catholics that don't know the bible

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I was living in Poland for a few years of my teenage years. During my life there my family would go to a Polish Catholic Church in our town. During mass at most Polish Churches, the bible was rarely, if ever read or explained for the congregation. I was also told by my dad that a lot of Polish people, besides ourselves don’t have a bible in their home or have never read anything from it. I know that the Catholic Mass basically revolves around the Eucharist, but to me some knowledge of the bible is also very important since most don’t attend bible studies and only go to Church once a week. As well as to not loose sight of what and why we actually do what we do. I would like to hear some opinions about this because it seems as though there are probably a lot of Catholic Churches or Catholic people out there in the world that have maybe lost sight of why they do things and at no fault of the individual person, but because of the CC that doesn’t properly educate some.
 
i can’t recall where i read this, but Catholicism doesn’t view the bible as an absolute necessity for salvation. for one thing, the early Christians never had a bible! the teachings of Christ were carried through the Apostles and their successors, and through today we still have the Apostolic successors who carry these teachings. when we receive the proper instruction from our elders (the priests and bishops) then we can still follow Christ, even without the Bible
 
well, in my opinion, yes i agree with you its through a catholic mass that the bible is presented to the congregation, but its a choice actually like me, good thing my parents invited me to a community of encountered families thrugh the guidace of our Holy Fatrher that we will learn how to read and understand actually, this comming April w will already have a Bible Study a 2 day bible study but never thought in your country … ohh too bad try to join some communities maybe you’ll learn the bible from there
 
I know that the Catholic Mass basically revolves around the Eucharist
The Eucharist is a very important part of mass, but remember that the mass is a liturgy of 2 tables: the Eucharist (the alter) and the Word (alb). On each table, something is taken, blessed, broken and shared.
 
I was living in Poland for a few years of my teenage years. During my life there my family would go to a Polish Catholic Church in our town. During mass at most Polish Churches, the bible was rarely, if ever read or explained for the congregation.
I believe you must be mistaken, the Holy Scriptures are presented are every Catholic Mass, in the first readings, the second readings and the Gospel reading. Most Priests build their homily upon the Gospel that he has just presented to the congregation.

and yes, the Eucharstic is very much the focus of the Mass as it should be.

Vatican II puts the Catholic position succinctly:

“At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic Sacrifice of his Body and Blood. He did this in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the centuries until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a paschal banquet in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us” (Sacrosanctum Concilium 47).

Even a modestly informed Catholic can set an inquirer right and direct him to biblical accounts of Jesus’ final night with his disciples. Turning to the text, we read, “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me’” (Luke 22:19).
catholic.com/library/Institution_of_the_Mass.asp

Many Parishes do offer opportunities for Bible study, but it is up to the individual Catholic to pursue.
 
I believe you must be mistaken, the Holy Scriptures are presented are every Catholic Mass, in the first readings, the second readings and the Gospel reading. Most Priests build their homily upon the Gospel that he has just presented to the congregation.
 
I believe you must be mistaken, the Holy Scriptures are presented are every Catholic Mass, in the first readings, the second readings and the Gospel reading. Most Priests build their homily upon the Gospel that he has just presented to the congregation.
 
I believe you must be mistaken, the Holy Scriptures are presented are every Catholic Mass, in the first readings, the second readings and the Gospel reading. Most Priests build their homily upon the Gospel that he has just presented to the congregation.
Everything the priest says and does and we as a congregation do (save the Homily itself and any anouncements) is directly from the Bible.

Old Testament Reading
Psalm
New Testament Reading
Gospel
Homily
Liturgy of the Eucharist

“The Lord Be With You”
– “And also with you” / “And with your spirit” may be something taken from the Jews…

Anyway, the Mass was set up this way so that the faithful, many never owning a Bible and lots more not knowing how to read, would be exposed to it.
 
it can vary from place to place…culture to culture. A Catholic friend of mine is right from Poland and the Bible was read and taught etc…

Pope St. Gregory I (died 604 AD)
“The Emperor of heaven, the Lord of men and of angels, has sent you His epistles for
your life’s advantage—and yet you neglect to read them eagerly. Study them, I beg you, and meditate daily on the words of your Creator. Learn the heart of God in the words of God, that you may sigh more eagerly for things eternal, that your soul may be kindled with greater longings for heavenly joys.”
[Letters, 5, 46. (EnchBibl 31)]
 
The Bible has been read since the beginning…and loved! It is the very soul of theology…among the early Christians a book or so in scroll form could be found …that is for those who could read (others memorized say the sayings of Jesus…) …of course literacy and the ability to have a complete Bible varied from age to age and place to place…and not until the invention of the printing press was the whole Bible more easily available… But as literacy levels grew in the last few hundred years and it was more available due to the printing press even more people read the Bible…and the Church could then encourage more those who could read to read it…(besides hearing it read in Liturgy etc)…but then the Protestants came on the scene…and thus there was a reaction among some where it was not practically encouraged in all places etc… .and some were more fearful due to the all the various groups that were springing up due to differing interpretations …(it would differ of course from place to place and time to time) but still one finds the Church encouraging Bible reading…particularly the Gospels which are at the heart of things…

In any case for 2000 years we have been reading and loving the Bible!

Here is a great audience from Pope Benedict XVI on Jerome…I encourage all to read it for it is all about reading the Scriptures

vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/audiences/2007/documents/hf_ben-xvi_aud_20071114_en.html
 
A Few Excerpts from Popes and Councils Urging the Reading or Study of the Bible

Pope Pius VI (April 1st 1778 AD)

“…you judge exceedingly well, that the faithful should be excited to the reading of the Holy Scriptures : for these are the most abundant sources which ought to be left open to every one, to draw from them purity of morals and of doctrine, to eradicate the errors which are widely dis*seminated in these corrupt times : this you have seasonably effected, as you declare, by publishing the sacred writings in the language of your country, suitable to every one’s capacity …”
(Letter to the Most Rev. Anthony Martini, Archbishop Of Florence, on his Italian translation of the Bible)

Pope Leo XIII (1878-1903 AD)

“The solicitude of the apostolic office naturally urges and even compels us…to desire that this grand source of Catholic revelation (the Bible) should be made safely and abundantly accessible to the flock of Jesus Christ”
[Providentissimus Deus ( Nov. 18, 1893)]

“The calm and fair consideration of what has been said will clearly show that the Church has never failed in taking due measures to bring the Scriptures within reach of her children, and that she has ever held fast and exercised profitably that guardianship conferred upon her by Almighty God for the protection and glory of His holy Word…” Pope Leo XIII, Providentissimus Deus, On the Study of Sacred Scripture, 1893

“An indulgence of 300 days for reading the Holy Gospels is granted to all the Faithful who read these Holy Scriptures for at least a quarter of an hour, with reverence due to the Divine Word and as spiritual reading…. A Plenary indulgence under the usual conditions is granted once a month for the daily reading.” Pope Leo XIII. December, 1898, Preces et Pia Opera, 045. (Enchiridion Indulgentiarium, 694)
 
Third Council of Baltimore (7 December AD 1884)—for USA

“It can hardly be necessary for us to remind you, beloved brethren, that the most highly valued treasure of every family library, and the most frequently and lovingly made use of, should be the Holy Scriptures… We hope that no family can be found amongst us without a correct version of the Holy Scriptures
Pope St. Pius X (1903-1914 AD)

“Nothing would please us more than to see our beloved children form the habit of reading the Gospels - not merely from time to time, but every day.”

Pope Benedict XV (1914-1922 AD)

“Our one desire for all the Church’s children is that, being saturated with the Bible, they may arrive at the all surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ.”
15 September AD 1920 , Spiritus Paraclitus

He repeated St. Jerome’s statement:
“Ignorance of Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.”

He expressed his desire that, “… all the children of the Church, especially clerics, to reverence the Holy Scriptures, to read it piously and meditate on it constantly.”

And he reminded them that,
“… in these pages is to be sought that food, by which the spiritual life is nourished unto perfection …”

And in the same work wrote when founding the Society of St. Jerome:

“The object of this Society is to put into the hands of as many people as possible the Gospels and Acts, so that every Christian family may have them and become accustomed to reading them. This we have much at heart, for we have seen how useful it is. We earnestly hope, then, that similar Societies will be founded….Commendation too, is due to Catholics in other countries who have published the entire New Testament, as well as selected portions of the Old in neat and simple form so as to popularize their use. Much again must accure to the Church of God when numbers of people thus approach this table of heavenly instruction which the Lord provided through the ministry of His Prophets, Apostles and Doctors for the entire world.”

Pope Pius XII 1943 AD

“Our predecessors, when the opportunity occurred, recommended the study or preaching or in fine the pious reading and meditation of the sacred Scriptures.

“… This author of salvation, Christ, will men more fully know, more ardently love and more faithfully imitate in proportion as they are more assiduously urged to know and meditate the Sacred Letters, especially the New Testament …”
[Divino Afflante Spiritu]

He also granted indulgences (a blessing of God’s grace) to those who read Scripture.

(much of these quotes are from catholic-convert.com/2010/03/03/catholic-church-dont-read-the-bible/ who uses url]http://www.defendingthebride.com)/bb/index.html#pope)
 
Vatican II : 1965 AD

“21. The Church has always venerated the Scriptures just as she venerates the body of the Lord, since, especially in sacred liturgy, she unceasingly receives and offers to the faithful the bread of life from the table both of God’s Word and of Christ’s Body. She has always maintained them, and continues to do so, together with sacred tradition, as the supreme rule of faith, since, as inspired by God and committed once and for all to writing, they impart the Word of God Himself without change, and make the voice of the Holy Spirit resound in the words of the prophets and Apostles. Therefore, like the Christian religion itself, all the preaching of the Church must be nourished and regulated by sacred Scripture. For in the sacred books, the Father who is in heaven meets His children with great love and speaks with them; and the force and power in the word of God is so great that it stands as the support and energy of the Church, the strength of faith for her sons, the food of the soul, the pure and everlasting source of spiritual life. Consequently these words are perfectly applicable to sacred Scripture: ‘For the word of God is living and active’ (Heb. 4:12) and ‘it has power to build you up and give you your heritage among all those who are sanctified’ ” (Acts 20:32; see 1 Thess. 2:13).”
[DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON DIVINE REVELATION (DEI VERBUM) 1965 AD]

Catechism of the Catholic Church

133 The Church "forcefully and specifically exhorts all the Christian faithful. . . to learn the surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ, by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures. Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.

Current Indulgences for the Spiritual Reading of Sacred Scriptures

A Plenary indulgence is granted to the faithful who read the Sacred Scriptures as spiritual reading, from a text approved by competent authority and with the reverence due to the divine word, for at least a half an hour; if the time is less, the indulgence will be partial.
(Manual of Indulgences 30 USCCB 2006…the indulgences were issued by the Holy See. Plenary. One would gain the Plenary Indulgence under usual conditions)

Pope John Paul II October 16, 1979

“27. Catechesis will always draw its content from the living source of the Word of God transmitted in Tradition and the Scriptures, for “sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God, which is entrusted to the Church,” as was recalled by the Second Vatican Council, which desired that ‘the ministry of the word-pastoral preaching, catechetics and all forms of Christian instruction . . .-(should be) healthily nourished and (should) thrive in holiness through the word of Scripture.’ (57)

“To speak of Tradition and Scripture as the source of catechesis is to draw attention to the fact that catechesis must be impregnated and penetrated by the thought, the spirit and the outlook of the Bible and the Gospels through assiduous contact with the texts themselves …

“The Church’s teaching, liturgy and life spring from this source and lead back to it …”
 
Pope Benedict XVI Weds Audience Nov 15th 2007 ( Regarding St. Jerome 4th Cent)

Truly “in love” with the Word of God, he asked himself: “How could one live without the knowledge of Scripture, through which one learns to know Christ himself, who is the life of believers?” (Ep. 30, 7). The Bible, an instrument “by which God speaks every day to the faithful” (Ep. 133, 13), thus becomes a stimulus and source of Christian life for all situations and for each person. To read Scripture is to converse with God: “If you pray”, he writes to a young Roman noblewoman, “you speak with the Spouse; if you read, it is he who speaks to you” (Ep. 22, 25). The study of and meditation on Scripture renders man wise and serene (cf. In Eph., Prol.). Certainly, to penetrate the Word of God ever more profoundly, a constant and progressive application is needed. Hence, Jerome recommends to the priest Nepotian: “Read the divine Scriptures frequently; rather, may your hands never set the Holy Book down. Learn here what you must teach” (Ep. 52, 7). To the Roman matron Leta he gave this counsel for the Christian education of her daughter: “Ensure that each day she studies some Scripture passage… After prayer, reading should follow, and after reading, prayer… Instead of jewels and silk clothing, may she love the divine Books” (Ep. 107, 9, 12). Through meditation on and knowledge of the Scriptures, one “maintains the equilibrium of the soul” (Ad Eph., Prol.). Only a profound spirit of prayer and the Holy Spirit’s help can introduce us to understanding the Bible: “In the interpretation of Sacred Scripture we always need the help of the Holy Spirit” (In Mich. 1, 1, 10, 15).

A passionate love for Scripture therefore pervaded Jerome’s whole life, a love that he always sought to deepen in the faithful, too. He recommends to one of his spiritual daughters: “Love Sacred Scripture and wisdom will love you; love it tenderly, and it will protect you; honour it and you will receive its caresses. May it be for you as your necklaces and your earrings” (Ep. 130, 20). And again: “Love the science of Scripture, and you will not love the vices of the flesh” (Ep. 125, 11).

For Jerome, a fundamental criterion of the method for interpreting the Scriptures was harmony with the Church’s Magisterium. We should never read Scripture alone because we meet too many closed doors and could easily slip into error. The Bible has been written by the People of God and for the People of God under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Only in this communion with the People of God do we truly enter into the “we”, into the nucleus of the truth that God himself wants to tell us. For him, an authentic interpretation of the Bible must always be in harmonious accord with the faith of the Catholic Church. It is not a question of an exegesis imposed on this Book from without; the Book is really the voice of the pilgrim People of God and only in the faith of this People are we “correctly attuned” to understand Sacred Scripture. Therefore, Jerome admonishes: “Remain firmly attached to the traditional doctrine that you have been taught, so that you can preach according to right doctrine and refute those who contradict it” (Ep. 52, 7). In particular, given that Jesus Christ founded his Church on Peter, every Christian, he concludes, must be in communion “with St Peter’s See. I know that on this rock the Church is built” (Ep. 15, 2). Consequently, without equivocation, he declared: “I am with whoever is united to the teaching of St Peter” (Ep. 16).

Pope Benedict XVI Audience Oct 28 2009

…is also important to set aside a certain period each day for meditation on the Bible, so that the word of God may be a light that illumines our daily pilgrimage on earth.

Pope Benedict XVI Address to Synod of Bishops Oct 6 2008

Furthermore, the Word of God is the foundation of everything, it is the true reality. And to be realistic, we must rely upon this reality. We must change our idea that matter, solid things, things we can touch, are the more solid, the more certain reality. At the end of the Sermon on the Mount the Lord speaks to us about the two possible foundations for building the house of one’s life: sand and rock. The one who builds on sand builds only on visible and tangible things, on success, on career, on money. Apparently these are the true realities. But all this one day will pass away. We can see this now with the fall of large banks: this money disappears, it is nothing. And thus all things, which seem to be the true realities we can count on, are only realities of a secondary order. The one who builds his life on these realities, on matter, on success, on appearances, builds upon sand. Only the Word of God is the foundation of all reality, it is as stable as the heavens and more than the heavens, it is reality. Therefore, we must change our concept of realism. The realist is the one who recognizes the Word of God, in this apparently weak reality, as the foundation of all things. Realist is the one who builds his life on this foundation, which is permanent….

……exegesis, the true reading of Holy Scripture, is not only a literary phenomenon, not only reading a text. It is the movement of my existence. It is moving towards the Word of God in the human words. Only by conforming ourselves to the Mystery of God, to the Lord who is the Word, can we enter within the Word, can we truly find the Word of God in human words. Let us pray to the Lord that he may help us search the word, not only with our intellect but also with our entire existence.
 
Some Quotes from Pope Benedict XVI on Lectio Divina

“Note what Saint Jerome said in this regard: “Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ” (PL 24,17; cf Dei Verbum, 25). A time-honoured way to study and savour the word of God is lectio divina which constitutes a real and veritable spiritual journey marked out in stages. After the lectio, which consists of reading and rereading a passage from Sacred Scripture and taking in the main elements, we proceed to meditatio. This is a moment of interior reflection in which the soul turns to God and tries to understand what his word is saying to us today. Then comes oratio in which we linger to talk with God directly. Finally we come to contemplatio. This helps us to keep our hearts attentive to the presence of Christ whose word is “a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts” (2 Pet 1:19). Reading, study and meditation of the Word should then flow into a life of consistent fidelity to Christ and his teachings.”
(Message to the Youth of World Youth Day 9 April 2006)

“Among the many fruits of this biblical springtime I would like to mention the spread of the ancient practice of Lectio divina or “spiritual reading” of Sacred Scripture. It consists in pouring over a biblical text for some time, reading it and rereading it, as it were, “ruminating” on it as the Fathers say and squeezing from it, so to speak, all its “juice”, so that it may nourish meditation and contemplation and, like water, succeed in irrigating life itself.

One condition for Lectio divina is that the mind and heart be illumined by the Holy Spirit, that is, by the same Spirit who inspired the Scriptures, and that they be approached with an attitude of “reverential hearing”.” Angelus Nov 6 2005
 
If you are interested in how the Bible relates to the mass, I encourage you to start attending latin mass. The '62 missle published by angelus press is a great reference, in that the origon and meaning of every part of the mass is explained in the margins. Nearly all of the mass is derived from the Bible. I attended the “ordinary form” before it was called the “ordinary form” for more than twenty years before figuring this out.
 
Don’t forget the readings from Holy Mass.
Every Catholic household/family should have a Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and alot of spiritual reading. My home library is full of Catholic books/magazines and reading is a very exciting time.

I believe there are alot of catholics who do read the Bible and alot who don’t. (at least for those who do go to church hear the readings.

Every catholic is encouraged to read the Bible.

There are different reasons why for those who don’t and it helps to get commentaries from a catholic perspective for better understanding.🙂

God bless :signofcross:
 
As a former Evangelical, most Catholics I came across knew very little about the Bible or could explain their faith effectively. Yes, the Word of God is proclaimed during Mass, but that is no excuse not to study the bible on our own. If we love someone, wouldn’t we want to get to know the person better? So if we truly love Christ, shouldn’t we want to get to know Him better? And the Bible is the Word of God which is Jesus Christ. To be ignorant of the Bible is to be ignorant of Christ, and to be ignorant of the Catechism is to be ignorant of the Catholic Church.

I also get tired of people putting blame solely on the Chruch for the ignorance of Catholics. Even if you had poor catechesis as a kid, that is no excuse to do what is right as an adult. It is our responsibility, as an adult Catholic, to know our faith. Again, if we love Christ & the Church, we will find time to read the Bible & the Catechism. There is power within the Word of God, which will draw anyone closer to Christ. We just have to make it a priority in our life along with prayer.
 
Apart from the fact that the Catechism of the Catholic Church is all Bible based
So study the Catechism and the Bible to be a well informed Catholic 👍
 
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