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You are Wiccan right? Have you not read The Wiccan Rede? Not that statement, but a little book. My SIL showed it to me (funny that she has it) anyway, by eating meat, according to THIS book, it violates the Rede. That’s what I meant.…eh?
I don’t know, just know what I read.
I don’t eat meat for health reasons, as well as, what the meat market has done to our society…blah, blah, blah…a whole other thread huh?
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Pax
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reborn_pagan,
The divisions in Christianity are a scandal and do a great disservice to the faith and those that view it from the outside.
Please pick up a copy of the bible and read the 17th chapter of John’s gospel. It addresses the issue of unity. The truth is what it is, and we must all seek and embrace the fullness of truth.
The divisions in Christianity are a scandal and do a great disservice to the faith and those that view it from the outside.
Please pick up a copy of the bible and read the 17th chapter of John’s gospel. It addresses the issue of unity. The truth is what it is, and we must all seek and embrace the fullness of truth.
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reborn_pagan
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no where in the wiccan rede does it say i have to be a veggieYou are Wiccan right? Have you not read The Wiccan Rede? Not that statement, but a little book. My SIL showed it to me (funny that she has it) anyway, by eating meat, according to THIS book, it violates the Rede. That’s what I meant.
I don’t know, just know what I read.
I don’t eat meat for health reasons, as well as, what the meat market has done to our society…blah, blah, blah…a whole other thread huh?
and i bealive that everything was created for a reason, which is why i think if i cow dies you shouldn’t let it go to waste…
and atleast your not a veggie pusher, i can’t stand those people
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kellie
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Weren’t you baptised Catholic as an infant?
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reborn_pagan
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nope, sorry
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kellie
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Oh ok, sorry, I thought you said once on a thread that you were Catholic, like your parents, and now at 15 you have become Wiccan
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reborn_pagan
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yep, talk about the apple falling far from the tree huh?
and no my parents are protestant
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reborn_pagan
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i wasn’t baptized at all
and the apple is one of those common phrases, cause most of the time when an apple falls from the tree it is relativley close to the tree it fell from…some however arn’t by some odd reason
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reborn_pagan
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yes cause i think it said in the bible that, a house with diffrent faiths will not stand…and yet there is over 300 ways of christianity,
now im not saying “yay christianity is going to fall like a card house” im actually worried that alot of people are just becoming “cults of christ” which demonizes christianity in whole
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.Louis Bouyer speaks of the inherent individualism of Protestantism:
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The Reformers, though desirous of accentuating the divine, transcendent, aspect of Christianity, promoted more than anyone else the development of humanism and, in particular, the religious individualism of modern times.
Thomas Howard (P), now a Catholic, recalled his own “pert” individualism and “Bible-only” outlook, in a book written before he converted:
Evangelicalism, encouraging a spirit of individual responsibility before the Bible, **had made it possible for me to discount centuries of Christian practice **. . . The notion of ‘sola scriptura’ fostered a pert attitude in me. I took my cues from my own Bible reading; there was no such thing as ‘the wisdom of the Church.’ It did not matter that this divine Word had been read and pondered by sage and holy men and women for two thousand years before my arrival . . . The Bible does not exist in a vacuum . . . It was as though the Church had never really existed.
Christopher Dawson, the brilliant Catholic historian of culture, gives his opinion on the tragic outcome of Protestant individualism:
Whereas in the past religion had occupied the center stage of world history . . . now it had withdrawn into private life and had left the stage of history to the representatives of the new political and economic forces. This progressive extrusion of Christianity from culture is the price that Christendom has had to pay for its loss of unity - it is part of what Richard Niebuhr has called ‘the Ethical Failure of the Divided Church.’ The tragedy of schism is that it is a progressive evil. Schism breeds schism, until . . . no common Christian culture is conceivable.
James Cardinal Gibbons of Baltimore decries this state of affairs:
The various Protestant denominations differ from one another not only in minor details, **but in most essential principles of faith **. . The multiplicity of sects in this country, with their mutual recriminations, is the scandal of Christianity. . No one can deny that these divisions in the Christian family are traceable to the assumption of the right of private judgment. Every new-fledged divine, with a superficial education, imagines that he has received a call from heaven to inaugurate a new religion . . . And every one . . . appeals to the unchanging Bible in support of his ever-changing doctrines.
Paul Whitcomb, a former Protestant pastor, gives typical examples of doctrinal differences among Protestants:
One held the independent view that altar and liturgy have no place in Christian worship. Another . . that the sacraments should be withheld from infants and small children. Another . . that man becomes impervious to sin and assured of salvation once he accepts Christ as his personal Saviour . . Another . . that Saturday, not Sunday, is the Lord’s Day. Another held . . that the powers of church administration reside not with the clergy but with the laity of the local congregation. Yes, here . . was a genuine, concerted love and longing for Christ . . . But here also was division, division in the most explicit and flagrant sense of the word. Here, unquestionably, was a concept of Christ’s mystical Body on earth which could not possibly be consonant with the one spirit, one faith, one shepherd concept described in the Bible.
John Stoddard, another convert, echoes the above sentiments:
American Protestantism . . certainly does not correspond to the one, Apostolic, undivided Church which Jesus founded, and for the unity of which He prayed so tenderly . . .
Many Protestants, of course, see the absurdity of such sectarianism, and deeply lament it; but many do not . .If the quantity of these Protestant divisions is unedifying, still more so is the quality of some of them.
Protestant observers are no less distressed:
ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ409.HTM#I.%20INTRODUCTION:%20THE%20DEFICIENCY%20OF%20PROTESTANTISM
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The Reformers, though desirous of accentuating the divine, transcendent, aspect of Christianity, promoted more than anyone else the development of humanism and, in particular, the religious individualism of modern times.
Thomas Howard (P), now a Catholic, recalled his own “pert” individualism and “Bible-only” outlook, in a book written before he converted:
Evangelicalism, encouraging a spirit of individual responsibility before the Bible, **had made it possible for me to discount centuries of Christian practice **. . . The notion of ‘sola scriptura’ fostered a pert attitude in me. I took my cues from my own Bible reading; there was no such thing as ‘the wisdom of the Church.’ It did not matter that this divine Word had been read and pondered by sage and holy men and women for two thousand years before my arrival . . . The Bible does not exist in a vacuum . . . It was as though the Church had never really existed.
Christopher Dawson, the brilliant Catholic historian of culture, gives his opinion on the tragic outcome of Protestant individualism:
Whereas in the past religion had occupied the center stage of world history . . . now it had withdrawn into private life and had left the stage of history to the representatives of the new political and economic forces. This progressive extrusion of Christianity from culture is the price that Christendom has had to pay for its loss of unity - it is part of what Richard Niebuhr has called ‘the Ethical Failure of the Divided Church.’ The tragedy of schism is that it is a progressive evil. Schism breeds schism, until . . . no common Christian culture is conceivable.
James Cardinal Gibbons of Baltimore decries this state of affairs:
The various Protestant denominations differ from one another not only in minor details, **but in most essential principles of faith **. . The multiplicity of sects in this country, with their mutual recriminations, is the scandal of Christianity. . No one can deny that these divisions in the Christian family are traceable to the assumption of the right of private judgment. Every new-fledged divine, with a superficial education, imagines that he has received a call from heaven to inaugurate a new religion . . . And every one . . . appeals to the unchanging Bible in support of his ever-changing doctrines.
Paul Whitcomb, a former Protestant pastor, gives typical examples of doctrinal differences among Protestants:
One held the independent view that altar and liturgy have no place in Christian worship. Another . . that the sacraments should be withheld from infants and small children. Another . . that man becomes impervious to sin and assured of salvation once he accepts Christ as his personal Saviour . . Another . . that Saturday, not Sunday, is the Lord’s Day. Another held . . that the powers of church administration reside not with the clergy but with the laity of the local congregation. Yes, here . . was a genuine, concerted love and longing for Christ . . . But here also was division, division in the most explicit and flagrant sense of the word. Here, unquestionably, was a concept of Christ’s mystical Body on earth which could not possibly be consonant with the one spirit, one faith, one shepherd concept described in the Bible.
John Stoddard, another convert, echoes the above sentiments:
American Protestantism . . certainly does not correspond to the one, Apostolic, undivided Church which Jesus founded, and for the unity of which He prayed so tenderly . . .
Many Protestants, of course, see the absurdity of such sectarianism, and deeply lament it; but many do not . .If the quantity of these Protestant divisions is unedifying, still more so is the quality of some of them.
Protestant observers are no less distressed:
ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ409.HTM#I.%20INTRODUCTION:%20THE%20DEFICIENCY%20OF%20PROTESTANTISM
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