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From my perspective too many trust in the RCC abide in the RCC and believe in the RCC. There is a difference sadly for many there is no difference.
That’s probably because from your perspective, the Catholic Church is merely a building. I must emphasize that this is how many non-Catholics view the Church - from the outside. Not knowing much because they have never dared to venture inside the building. Just like a home looks to any other person from the outside - a cold building made by hands. It is only after you get the invitation to enter, will you realise how comfortable it really is being inside. I will pray the Holy Spirit to invite you into the earthly Home of Christ. Once you have overcome this hurdle, you will soon start to realize just how God gave His earthly architectural plan to humankind, so they may live comfortably with themselves and those around them until the time comes for them to go His Home.
 
That’s probably because from your perspective, the Catholic Church is merely a building. I must emphasize that this is how many non-Catholics view the Church - from the outside. Not knowing much because they have never dared to venture inside the building. Just like a home looks to any other person from the outside - a cold building made by hands. It is only after you get the invitation to enter, will you realise how comfortable it really is being inside. I will pray the Holy Spirit to invite you into the earthly Home of Christ. Once you have overcome this hurdle, you will soon start to realize just how God gave His earthly architectural plan to humankind, so they may live comfortably with themselves and those around them until the time comes for them to go His Home.
The Catholic Church is not a building it is an institution.
 
The Catholic Church is not a building it is an institution.
An institution requires a building to perform its rites and give teaching instructions, doesn’t it? But that’s besides the point.
 
An institution requires a building to perform its rites and give teaching instructions, doesn’t it?
The Church is the people of God. Yes, churches have been built that give honor to God. Stained glass windows became a way to present scripture to those who could not read.
Even if all the buildings were destroyed, the Church, founded on Peter, would stand. Those of us who have served in the military are familiar with field Masses. The chapels on posts were generally shared with members of other denominations. As a dependent I remember Mass being celebrated in a post theater. When I was at Ft. Sheridan, the Protestants (the term was still used) would become impatient because the Mass ran over the allotted time. It was not so much that the Mass ran overtime as the fellowship that followed often cut into their time.
We share the same basic beliefs as our non-Catholic brothers and sisters. Each of us believes in the salvation that comes through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I have shared worship and fellowship with them as well.
Nevertheless, there is definitely a richness within the Roman Catholic Church that cannot be found elsewhere. The well is so deep that I will never reach the bottom. I will never learn all there is to know about my Faith, about my God.
There is the Eucharist in which we share as we gather as a community, as the people of God. And then there is the wealth of private devotions that have been handed through the ages. We learn from those who have preceded us.
It is true that some people, both Catholic and non-Catholic see only the rituals while failing to see and experience the intimate Love that God has for each one of us. That blindness does not mean that the Church is dead or irrelevant. The Roman Catholic Church is very much alive with people who have given their lives unreservedly to Christ.
 
Protestant Reformation happened because some Catholics did not appreciate how the Bible was being interpreted, and how people were “buying their way into Heaven” (you know, the collection). Not only that, but they did not like how the Pope was running things.

That’s the general picture. 😉 Of course, there is more to it.

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood
Your absolutely right. The Reformations (the three main ones being the Lutheran, the Radical or Zurig, and the English) all came about prinarially because the rich and powerful didn’t like how the Pope was running things. The Lutheran Reformation because the German Princes wanted to get our from under their obligations to the Holy Roman Emperor so that they could get richer. (Renenber: The real bru ha ha over indulgences came about only because Tetsel was cutting into Luther’s Prince, the Elector Fredric’s racket in pilgramages to very dubious relics.) The Radical because the Swiss wanted to get out from under Rome, so they could get richer by not paying taxes. And the English because Henry the Horney was so intent upon a male heir to the thrown that he went through eight wives trying, even when the Church said enough allready! Blade and Blood? Put up your sward Peter! He who lives by the sward shall die by the sward. Jesus is the Prince of Peace.:hmmm:
 
I don’t believe that the true church that Christ established has ever been dismembered or “hacked” to pieces. I don’t believe that the Body of Christ was separated spiritually when Rome fell and the Eastern and Western churches were divided. I don’t believe that the Body of Christ was dismembered in 1054 when the Roman Ctholic Church and the Greek Orthodox Church excommunicated each other. I don’t believe the Body of Christ was “hacked to pieces” when the Reformation movement took place in Europe, nor when the Restoration movement took place in America. I do believe that all of these movements is in some way the “testing in the fire” of anything built on the foundation, which is Christ, that is mentioned in 1 Corinthians. All Christian make up the body of Christ. The way we tell who are sons of God as opposed to those who are not, is we love our brothers in Christ.
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Hi John1, 👋

Aren’t you precious! You don’t believe a lot of things. Want to bet your eternal life on those things you don’t believe? That is exactly what you are doing! Do you think it is “love” to allow your brother to fall into eternal danmation by following the devil?
To speak out isn’t wrong! Even in anger! Even Jesus got angry. However His anger had the proper supplement. Mark 3:5 says that His anger was attended by grief over the Pharisees’ lack of faith. Jesus’ anger stemmed from love for the Pharisees and concern for their spiritual condition. It had nothing to do with hatred or ill will. When some Catholics speak out forcefully many misjudge this for anger! I am what is called a Powerful Catholic. We are a small group that preach the truth in order to save souls from the Devil:

[SIGN] Powerful Catholic’s Motto
"Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says… ‘Oh hell…he’s awake!!’ [/SIGN]**

Now, listen to my words and mark them well. Each word is written in love! This is a warning, Eternal souls are in danger. Remember that before 1517AD, there was only one Christian Church. “ONE” with several different sects. (They are still firmly together even today! Apostolic succession keep these churches REAL! )
While some good people were attempting to right some wrong practices in the Church, the devil saw this as a change to infect the christian church and steal souls from God. What better weapon than the Bible? He used it against Jesus remember?
With the help of satan, a cancer was formed on the body of Christ! With the rapid growth and utter distortion of God’s true message, no other word can apply! It is a cancerous growth. Not a “new Child” born from the Mother church as many believe. But a hideious, corrupt, abomination in the sight of God!
Today there are 33,000 counterfeit denominations with 28,000 sub denominations having 1,375 doctrines and dogmas They all partially agree with the CC and all partially disagree with the CC. So I ask you who the heck is right? The church that has taught only the truth for 2,000 years refusing to compromise the truth and remained faithful to Jesus teachings, even when to do so might have kept the church together? Or the 61,000 false denominations currently teaching over 1,375 doctrines? The one thing they all actually agree with is the idea that the Catholic Church is wrong! Now who would be so against the Catholic Church that He could get 61,000 different denominations to agree?? And I mean really agree against Jesus’ original church? Could it be Satan? :eek: Jesus is the head of the Catholic church, who leads these others?

You can copy money but if it doesn’t have the backing of the authorized issurer it is counterfeit. It can’t be spent to buy anything!

You can copy Christianity, but if it doesn’t have the backing of the Holy Catholic Church it is counterfeit. It can’t be used to obtain salvation! You can talk the talk you can even walk the walk. Jesus told you 1,500 years before your church was even thought of, what he thought about you:

Only the Catholic Church offers the real communion. The Eucharist! In it, Jesus is present both Physically and Spiritually. He is “Completely” present. You lord and God is Here for you to worship and eat as He commanded you must to obtain eternal salvation. Only true believers understand that because the devil keeps his followers blinded to the truth! Disobedience to the commands of God to SEEK THE ULTIMATE TRUTH (CHRIST), WITH ALL OF OUR HEART, MIND, SOUL AND STRENGTH lead to the acceptance of false doctrines that appear totally correct to the unwary believer, who embraces them as true. Due to human nature (of which pride is a major part), once a false gospel is embraced as truth, it is very difficult to dislodge, and in many cases cannot be. It requires one to admit one is wrong. Pride goeth before the fall. It must be stated right now that when the term FALSE PROPHETS or FALSE TEACHERS is used, no attempt is being made to differentiate between one who deliberately intends to mislead because of hatred towards Christ, or the one who is sincere but under a deception. The net result is the same: eternal ruin to the one who embraces incorrect salvation doctrine.“BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, which come to you in SHEEP’S CLOTHING, but INWARDLY they are ravening wolves.” (Matthew 7:15)

All this was written in love to inform the people who sincerely wish to follow Jesus how it is possible! The truth shall set you free. God Bless All who read these words and believe for they truly will be called children of God! ****
 
Heaven will be loaded with Catholics and Methodists and Baptists and Orthodox and SDA and…

We must trust in abide in believe in Christ, From my perspective too many trust in the RCC abide in the RCC and believe in the RCC. There is a difference sadly for many there is no difference.
Well how about because for us, we believe that Christ established A Church on Peter and when He said that gates of Hell will not prevail, WE BELIEVED HIM.

And true to His Word, He has remained in His Church. He has said He will not leave us orphans and He has kept that promise.

So we believe in the Roman Catholic Church BECAUSE IT IS HIS CHURCH.

Christ said to His apostles He who hears you hears me. And we believe Him.

Plain and simple as that.
 
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Hi John1, 👋

Aren’t you precious! You don’t believe a lot of things. Want to bet your eternal life on those things you don’t believe? That is exactly what you are doing! Do you think it is “love” to allow your brother to fall into eternal danmation by following the devil?
To speak out isn’t wrong! Even in anger! Even Jesus got angry. However His anger had the proper supplement. Mark 3:5 says that His anger was attended by grief over the Pharisees’ lack of faith. Jesus’ anger stemmed from love for the Pharisees and concern for their spiritual condition. It had nothing to do with hatred or ill will. When some Catholics speak out forcefully many misjudge this for anger! I am what is called a Powerful Catholic. We are a small group that preach the truth in order to save souls from the Devil: **

[SIGN] Powerful Catholic’s Motto
"Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says… ‘Oh hell…he’s awake!!’ [/SIGN]**

Now, listen to my words and mark them well. Each word is written in love! This is a warning, Eternal souls are in danger. Remember that before 1517AD, there was only one Christian Church. “ONE” with several different sects. (They are still firmly together even today! Apostolic succession keep these churches REAL! )
While some good people were attempting to right some wrong practices in the Church, the devil saw this as a change to infect the christian church and steal souls from God. What better weapon than the Bible? He used it against Jesus remember?
With the help of satan, a cancer was formed on the body of Christ! With the rapid growth and utter distortion of God’s true message, no other word can apply! It is a cancerous growth. Not a “new Child” born from the Mother church as many believe. But a hideious, corrupt, abomination in the sight of God!
Today there are 33,000 counterfeit denominations with 28,000 sub denominations having 1,375 doctrines and dogmas They all partially agree with the CC and all partially disagree with the CC. So I ask you who the heck is right? The church that has taught only the truth for 2,000 years refusing to compromise the truth and remained faithful to Jesus teachings, even when to do so might have kept the church together? Or the 61,000 false denominations currently teaching over 1,375 doctrines? The one thing they all actually agree with is the idea that the Catholic Church is wrong! Now who would be so against the Catholic Church that He could get 61,000 different denominations to agree?? And I mean really agree against Jesus’ original church? Could it be Satan? :eek: Jesus is the head of the Catholic church, who leads these others?

You can copy money but if it doesn’t have the backing of the authorized issurer it is counterfeit. It can’t be spent to buy anything!

You can copy Christianity, but if it doesn’t have the backing of the Holy Catholic Church it is counterfeit. It can’t be used to obtain salvation! You can talk the talk you can even walk the walk. Jesus told you 1,500 years before your church was even thought of, what he thought about you:

Only the Catholic Church offers the real communion. The Eucharist! In it, Jesus is present both Physically and Spiritually. He is “Completely” present. You lord and God is Here for you to worship and eat as He commanded you must to obtain eternal salvation. Only true believers understand that because the devil keeps his followers blinded to the truth! Disobedience to the commands of God to SEEK THE ULTIMATE TRUTH (CHRIST), WITH ALL OF OUR HEART, MIND, SOUL AND STRENGTH lead to the acceptance of false doctrines that appear totally correct to the unwary believer, who embraces them as true. Due to human nature (of which pride is a major part), once a false gospel is embraced as truth, it is very difficult to dislodge, and in many cases cannot be. It requires one to admit one is wrong. Pride goeth before the fall.

In 2 Timothy 2:24-26 it says that “a slave to Christ should be gentle with everyone, able to teach, tolerrant, correcting oppponents with kindness. It may be that God will grant them repentance that leads to the knowledge of the truth, and they may return to their senses out of the devil’s snare, where they are entrapped by him , for his will.”

Now I know that discussing anything, especially faith in Christ, can be frustrating at times because people have different opinions, and everyone thinks that their opinion is the correct one. Church history,from the Bible, to Eusibes, to modern historians, is full of examples of the violence Christains have inflicted upon other Christians because they believed that their opinion was the right one. In 1 Corinthians Paul is already having to rebuke some of the early Christians because they are starting divisions. In 449 AD the Council at Ephesus is a prime example of how bad Christians can treat other Christian when they take prideful stances on their positions. Ayt the Council of Ephesus some of the Bishops from Antioch were late arriving to the meeting, so against established rules the meeting was started. A bishop named Cyril had brought along his army just in case anyone had a problem with the outcome of the meeting. When the bishops from Antioch arrived and found that the meeting had already started they got upset. Cyril had his army promptly dispatch the bishops from Antioch. When the Roman Empire fell, the Eastern and Western Churches were split. In 1054 the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated the Eastern Orthodox Church, and there is still a division.

The reason that I use the term “I believe” is because I want to make it clear that I am taking full responsibility for what I’m saying, and not putting the responsibility for my statements on someone else.**
 
Well how about because for us, we believe that Christ established A Church on Peter and when He said that gates of Hell will not prevail, WE BELIEVED HIM.

And true to His Word, He has remained in His Church. He has said He will not leave us orphans and He has kept that promise.

So we believe in the Roman Catholic Church BECAUSE IT IS HIS CHURCH.

Christ said to His apostles He who hears you hears me. And we believe Him.

Plain and simple as that.
This actually sounds like a recaptulation of the Icon controversity. Catholics do not believe in the Church. They believe through the Church. Just as God is not the Church. He acts and rules through the Church which is His device and His annointed agent and representative. Issues never change, only the verbage does. :banghead:
 
Well how about because for us, we believe that Christ established A Church on Peter and when He said that gates of Hell will not prevail, WE BELIEVED HIM.

And true to His Word, He has remained in His Church. He has said He will not leave us orphans and He has kept that promise.

So we believe in the Roman Catholic Church BECAUSE IT IS HIS CHURCH.

Christ said to His apostles He who hears you hears me. And we believe Him.

Plain and simple as that.
Sir,

I hope that you are not implying that I don’t believe what Jesus said. With all due respect,when Jesus called Peter “Satan” in Mathew 16:23 do you believe Him? I am not implying that you don’t believe what Jesus says, because that would be an insult, and as Christians we’re not supposed to insult each other.
 
Only the Catholic Church offers the real communion. The In 2 Timothy 2:24-26 it says that “a slave to Christ should be gentle with everyone, able to teach, tolerrant, correcting oppponents with kindness. It may be that God will grant them repentance that leads to the knowledge of the truth, and they may return to their senses out of the devil’s snare, where they are entrapped by him , for his will.”
Now I know that discussing anything, especially faith in Christ, can be frustrating at times because people have different opinions, and everyone thinks that their opinion is the correct one. Church history,from the Bible, to Eusibes, to modern historians, is full of examples of the violence Christains have inflicted upon other Christians because they believed that their opinion was the right one. In 1 Corinthians Paul is already having to rebuke some of the early Christians because they are starting divisions. In 449 AD the Council at Ephesus is a prime example of how bad Christians can treat other Christian when they take prideful stances on their positions. Ayt the Council of Ephesus some of the Bishops from Antioch were late arriving to the meeting, so against established rules the meeting was started. A bishop named Cyril had brought along his army just in case anyone had a problem with the outcome of the meeting. When the bishops from Antioch arrived and found that the meeting had already started they got upset. Cyril had his army promptly dispatch the bishops from Antioch. When the Roman Empire fell, the Eastern and Western Churches were split. In 1054 the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated the Eastern Orthodox Church, and there is still a division.
The reason that I use the term “I believe” is because I want to make it clear that I am taking full responsibility for what I’m saying, and not putting the responsibility for my statements on someone else.
It is interesting that you should bring up the Roman excommunication of Patriarch Michael Ceruliarius. As the **Common Declaration of Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagotast
** states “one cannot pretend that these events were not what they were in that particularly troubled period of history…Their censures were aimed at the persons concerned and not the Churches; they were not meant to break ecclesiastical communion between the sees of Rome and Constantinople.”
This “reciprocal act of justice and forgiveness” is a first step toward the unity to which we are all called as Christians.
Maligning the faith of our separated brothers and sisters serves discord. Gentleness and humility are much more effective in starting the conversation that heals divisions, that gives the other person a reason to want to come home.
 
Sir,

I hope that you are not implying that I don’t believe what Jesus said. With all due respect,when Jesus called Peter “Satan” in Mathew 16:23 do you believe Him? I am not implying that you don’t believe what Jesus says, because that would be an insult, and as Christians we’re not supposed to insult each other.
Long before I took Orders, I answered my my ex-wife’s insistance that I accept a lucrative offer against my ethics with that quotation: “Get thee behind me Satin!” She later tried to have me condemned as delusional when she wanted to be rid of me on her terms, knowing full well my actual intent. She lost, badly, and had to console herself as a Baptist. Were not playing lawer with our Lord’s words here are we? :tsktsk:
 
Sir,

I hope that you are not implying that I don’t believe what Jesus said. With all due respect,when Jesus called Peter “Satan” in Mathew 16:23 do you believe Him? I am not implying that you don’t believe what Jesus says, because that would be an insult, and as Christians we’re not supposed to insult each other.
Yes, I do believe Jesus meant that. Read “Jesus of Nazareth” by Pope Benedict. An excellent book! He relates this to Christ’s temptation in the desert. At that point, Peter is mouthing what the devil would want Jesus to do and thereby stop him from completing the work of salvation which obviously the satan does not want to happen.

And Jesus knew that this would happen. He knew that Peter would deny him too. Nonetheless, he still chose him. That is why He said before his passion that Satan has been given the permission to sift them, but that He has prayed for Peter to be strengthened so that when he overcomes he will strengthen the others.

That is why I keep harping back to the discernment of Spirits. The devil can appear as an angel of light.

Here Peter looks like he is saying something good. He does not want his Master to suffer. Yet, not suffering in this case is contrary to God’s will.

Oh, and it’s not Sir. It’s Miss.😃
 
The protestant reformation movement actually had it’s beginnings long before October 31,1517, the year that Martin Luther nailed his list of complaints against the Roman Catholic Church to the door of the All Saints’ Church in present day Germany.

The Great Schism of Western Christianity or Papal Schism (also known as the Western Schism) was a split within the Roman Catholic Church from 1378 to 1417. By its end, three men simultaneously claimed to be the true pope. Driven by politics rather than any real theological disagreement, the schism was ended by the Council of Constance (1414–1418). The simultaneous claims to the papal chair of three different men hurt the reputation of the office. The Western Schism is occasionally called the Great Schism, though this term is more often applied to the East-West Schism of 1054. (This information came from Wikipedia)

The “Catholic Reformation” began in 1560 and lasted through 1648and may have ben a direct result of the protestant reformation.

I hope this helps whoever posted the original question.
 
when Jesus called Peter “Satan” in Mathew 16:23
When Jesus later explains to all the apostles, Satan asked to sift them ALL like wheat, I think Satan picked Peter out to be the first he sifted in Mt 16:23. It makes sense, since Peter is the one selected to be the leader. I think that’s what we’re seeing here right after Jesus changes Simon’s name to (Peter) Rock and gives Peter the keys to the kingdom, presto, Satan starts sifting.
 
Pope Leo X, in his Papal Bull Exsurge Domine, said that it is heretical to say that it is against the will of the spirit that heretics should be burned. (google it; click the first result; then read #33)
 
Hisalone;
The body of Christ is ALL believers

Gabriel of 12:
yeah, but Jesus said, “Many will say Lord, Lord” “did we not do marvelous things in your name? and Jesus will tell them “depart from me you evil doers, I never knew you” Yet Jesus confirms to those in John 6: " you must eat my body, and drink my blood inorder to have eternal life”. So which believers are given eternal life, all believers who believe, or the believer’s (Catholics) who obey his commandments and act out his will to eat and drink his body and blood. So to which body of believers do you Hisalone belong too?


Hisalone:
Jesus says I am one of His whom is it best to believe Him or you?

Gabriel of 12;
I only repeated what Jesus promised to those who eat his flesh and drink his blood will have eternal life; You stated you only belieive, scripture states the devil and the demons believe also; What seperates all believers and the promised ones with eternal life are those who obey Jesus commands to eat his flesh and drink his blood. If you believe Jesus then why dont you consume his body and blood as he commanded you to do?


Hisalone:
The counterReformation is proof that reformation was needed.

**Gabriel of 12:
The counter Reformation is proof that Luther and his reformers could not change Catholic apostolic teaching and doctrine.
The reformers changed their Catholic faith for different gospel teaching beginning with the “Sola’s” teachings that were never heard of until the reformers invented this new christian doctrine. This is the change brought about by the reformers. **

Hisalone:
If there was no Reformation there is no counter Reformation.

Gabriel of 12:
The way I see it, There was no counter reformation if what you mean from the Catholic church. The Catholic church only confirmed She would not change what the reformers were trying to change the true body of Jesus Christ which does not change
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Hisalone"
the RCC departed from salvation by grace through faith they were in apostacy

Gabriel of 12
Talk about wishful thinking, your reformers would disagree with you on that false accusation; unless you can prove other wise? Yet no one has never proved such a lie from history, so why feed such calamity to a topic of wishful haters of the body of Jesus Christ, fully human and fully divine.


Hisalone:
Are you denying that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church was ever taught? If so you need to brush up on your history.

Gabriel of 12;
Here’s the point to the above statement; Unless you have an understanding of what and who the body of Jesus Christ is, then absouletly “THERE IS NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH” I need not brush up on my history, because this belief is unchanged for 2000 years now. Why dont you believe in the body of Jesus Christ his Catholic church?


The “Rock” Jesus built his church upon Peter is still the same today,
The rock is Christ
yesterday and forever more until he comes for his church finding Peter (present Pope) and the Roman Catholic church doing so as Jesus instructed her. This price not to change Jesus teachings came at a high price from the blood of Catholic martyrs who refused to change. So it was in the reformers period. What changed was like you call it, administrators in conduct or disciplines. But the Catholic faith remains intact unchanged only defined and revealed in her faith and apostolic teachings from Jesus Christ himself.

Peace
 
The protestant reformation movement actually had it’s beginnings long before October 31,1517, the year that Martin Luther nailed his list of complaints against the Roman Catholic Church to the door of the All Saints’ Church in present day Germany.

The Great Schism of Western Christianity or Papal Schism (also known as the Western Schism) was a split within the Roman Catholic Church from 1378 to 1417. By its end, three men simultaneously claimed to be the true pope. Driven by politics rather than any real theological disagreement, the schism was ended by the Council of Constance (1414–1418). The simultaneous claims to the papal chair of three different men hurt the reputation of the office. The Western Schism is occasionally called the Great Schism, though this term is more often applied to the East-West Schism of 1054. (This information came from Wikipedia)

The “Catholic Reformation” began in 1560 and lasted through 1648and may have ben a direct result of the protestant reformation.

I hope this helps whoever posted the original question.
Well, if you can’t trust Wikipedia who could you trust?:rolleyes: I have an idea :newidea: the RCC!😃
 
**Before I start, please: “Remember an analogue is not the same thing as the same thing”

I realize that a lot of good gentle people consider themselves to be Christian. However, that doesn’t make them Christians. What you believe may not even be close to the truth. A woman could consider herself a princess, act like she thought a princess should act, dress as a princess should dress, etc., but her thinking and even believing she was a princess would certainly not make her a princess would it?

In fact if she went around claiming to be a princess she would be insane…so similarly isn’t it also insanity for someone to consider themselves a Christian when they have not actually “married the prince” when they have never actually been initiated into the real Christian Faith by way of Baptism, Confirmation or received the Holy Eucharist? Bread and “wine” Not grape juice!

There are only two Churches which have valid Eucharist and Mysteries/Sacraments! All others are counterfeit, or just plain liars! No other words can be used to truthfuly describe their beliefs! These same two Churches which maintain an unbroken Apostolic Succession Line back to Jesus’ 12 Apostles. Those Churches are know today as the: Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Pick one! Become one! And see what it is really like to actually be a Christian!

God Bless everyone! Let’s be sure to respect everyone’s opinions even if we should disagree with one another. God loves us all and we are to love each other.

Just because you are “christlike” in your ways doesn’t make you a christian! Don’t fool your self and don’t let your soul be condemned to eternal damnation due to liars and fools who deceive you! There are 61,000 denominations that don’t all agree witheach other about anything. Except the single thing that they all believe: The Catholic Church is wrong! Now who would stand against Jesus’ Church, attempting to tear it down? Satan? He is my guess!

God Bless!

joke time:

Did you hear about the dylexic Devil worshipper?

He sold his soul to Santa! http://www.christmas-corner.com/images/christmas-smileys/santa1.gif **
 
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