Catholics why are the little things important but not the big?

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I guess, to go back to the original question, when the OP asks why we don’t talk about the bad news with the good news…

We don’t point to any single person and say we know they are going to hell. But we DO teach that to reject God is to go to hell, and that does not just include atheists.
 
I refuse to field anymore questions on this topic. If you think that atheists who die as atheists are going to heaven you are wrong, and if my current explanations are not sufficient for you I am not sure what will convince you. I pray that maybe God can convince you that you are wrong. :gopray:
 
I refuse to field anymore questions on this topic. If you think that atheists who die as atheists are going to heaven you are wrong, and if my current explanations are not sufficient for you I am not sure what will convince you. I pray that maybe God can convince you that you are wrong. :gopray:
So you didn’t start this to understand us better, then, but to say what you know to be true? And when you asked what we thought about that Scripture and I answered, you didn’t really want to know what we thought?

Look, we’re not saying that atheists go to heaven, either. We’re saying we won’t point our finger at someone who has died and say we know for certain they’re in hell. For me, I am also saying that the atheists I know do not believe in hell, either, so to tell them they are going to hell does no good. You asked in the original post about talking about hell, and you have been told that we do talk about hell.
 
Protester, the catechism says something that you should take to heart (paraphrased):

“If you serve God out of fear of hell, then you are but a slave. If you serve God for the reward of heaven, you are nothing more than a mercenary. If you serve God out of love, then you are called sons.”

Not looking at catechism, this is best i can remember. I’m not saying you should take this to heart because it is in the catechism, but because it represents a higher way of serving God, and this is extremely relevant for the world we live in.
 
Just tell me you are joking. You do not think he means their real brothers. All men are not my brothers. Please dig up the bible commentary and show me quotes. I do not care who you are quoting as long as they are a christian and have more authority then you. Show me where in tradition that this is the way to translate this passage.
James 1
1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes scattered among the nations:

Greetings.

2 Consider it all joy, my brethren

See how James addresses the Jews, not all of whom were Christians, as brethren? The Greek word for brother, adelphos (Strong’s word #80), can be (and often is, cf. Mark 6:3, Matthew 13:55) extended to mean any number of relationships with males, from cousin to step-brother to even co-religionist.
 
(first paragraph)You are talking about semantics. What do you imagine that I think the gospel is. I do not think that the gospel is God.
(second paragraph)We are not responsible for their fate they are. What does this have to do with the recognition of that fate.
(third paragraph) what is your point?
(fourth paragraph) I do not understand the point of your hypothetical Mr.Church situation
(fith paragraph) You are literally proving my point
Which is there is one way to obtain unity with Christ and to be adopted as a son of God and then to be glorified (which I consider to be in heaven). Which is to believe and have a living faith in God. If you do not believe and do not have a living faith you do not receive grace and mercy. You receive exactly what everyone deserves hell.
If everyone deserves hell, then salvation from hell comes, strictly speaking, through grace as a gift but must be received in faith as a gift. How do you know to whom, how and when God offers that gift? You are not privy to God’s offer in the depths of the souls of others. Why would you want to place yourself in the place as mediator as if God needs you to speak for him? God communicates intimately with each person in the depths of their being. He does not need you to translate the offer of the gift or to place undue pressure on them to accept that gift.
Your job is merely to make the offer of the gift known to them in as kind, respectful and compelling a way as possible. It is not to use failure of acceptance as a cudgel to beat them with.

Jesus never said to the Pharisees, to sinners, to those who crucified him that they were destined to hell. He said, “Father forgive them.” This would have been a meaningless token if he knew their fate. If Jesus never presumed to say of anyone, even those who crucified him that they were destined for hell, why would any one of us presume to lead others to think their fate is certain? We should be telling them about God’s mercy and pleading to God on their behalf, just as Jesus did. He is the example we are to follow.

The two great commandments are “Love God with your whole heart” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If we follow your paradigm it promotes an understanding of these commandments as “You’d better love God and your neighbor or you’ll be consigned to hell.”
This doesn’t seem to properly set the sincere and proper motive for loving God or one’s neighbor. It very much makes the impetus for trying to follow the commandments as “saving your own skin.” I am not clear that a pure and sincere love for God and one’s neighbor will ever come about as a result of fearing hell.

The doctrine of hell may be a warning to not commit evil or do harm, but it will not suffice as a foundational motive for residence in the Kingdom of Heaven. To teach this doctrine as a central reason for belief is simply misguided.
 
I refuse to field anymore questions on this topic. If you think that atheists who die as atheists are going to heaven you are wrong, and if my current explanations are not sufficient for you I am not sure what will convince you. I pray that maybe God can convince you that you are wrong. :gopray:
Thank you for letting us know you are the ultimate authority on who goes to hell, and we don’t have to worry about God or scripture.
 
I see the church as the body of Christ, so this is not relevant
What gives you the authority to declare that the way you choose to see things is objectively correct?
Fair is everyone goes to hell apart from Christ
Prove that all people not a professed member of the Church are “apart from Christ.”
Thanks I did not know. Is “****” a profane word?
Is it now kosher for guests to come into someone else’s home and immediately start griping about the house rules?
You are talking about a scenario that does not exist. Do you believe that someone claims that there is no God which I am assuming is a product of their brian but their heart, a thing which is deceitful above all things, is actually a Christian, and or even more weird that their mind and heart confess there is no God but their soul confesses there is and it has a living faith. You are living in a fury tail my brother.
“…fury tail.” Don’t even know what that means. But, my original point stands: You cannot see into the hearts of men like God can, and you don’t know what love is there or not there. You cannot, and will not ever be able to know, who goes to Hell or not.

You are not God.
I do not understand where this is coming from or what it pertains to.
An earlier quote in one of your posts. If you choose to cede the point, I understand.
Not here to argue about SS I am here to say that it is possible to claim someone is going to hell and to be right about that claim. Specifically if you are and die as an atheist you are not going to heaven.
You are not God. You cannot see into Hell. You are wrong. 100%.
Not what I was saying and does not even apply to what I am saying
Stay on topic.
Stop moving the goalposts. I don’t appreciate silly games.
 
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