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In order for me to fully have discussions here, I have to ask a question.

Do you (everyone/anyone) study the Bible as God’s Word? Do you accept it?

I need to know these things for many reasons. To avoid arguments and to be able to ask proper questions/give proper answers to also avoid arguments.
 
In order for me to fully have discussions here, I have to ask a question.

Do you (everyone/anyone) study the Bible as God’s Word? Do you accept it?

I need to know these things for many reasons. To avoid arguments and to be able to ask proper questions/give proper answers to also avoid arguments.
Yes I do. Yes I do.

I also keep in mind as much as I can the history of how it came to be, and how human communication has come to be.

I also know I dont know the various languages that the orignals were written in. Hebrew, Greek, I certainly never spoke Aramaic, and I know many of the writings were oral traditions handed down before they were written down, as well as many of the books were directed at a certain community of people.
 
I believe Christ is the Word. I could go along with the Bible being referred to as the written word of God I suppose 🤷
Do you accept it?
Do I accept it as what?

God bless
 
In order for me to fully have discussions here, I have to ask a question.

Do you (everyone/anyone) study the Bible as God’s Word? Do you accept it?

I need to know these things for many reasons. To avoid arguments and to be able to ask proper questions/give proper answers to also avoid arguments.
Of course we accept it as God’s word.-It was the Catholic Church that gave it to us. However we do not accpet it as the ONLY authorative source of the Truth nor do we believe that one can properly interpret it without the guidance of the Church.
 
Jesus Christ is the Word of God with a captital W, as described in John, 1:1. The Scriptures are God-breathed, as also described in Scripture.
 
Not only do we accept it, we wrote it. 🙂 The New Testament anyway. I will tell you about that later.

And yes we use it & study it 🙂 In weekday Mass (Monday - Saturday) we have an Old Testament reading, a Pslam, & Gosple reading. Yes I know the Pslams ARE OT but we use them kina like an interlude between the OT & the NT readings.

On Sundays, we have an OT reading, the Pslam, a NT reading from some book other than the Gosple then a Gosple reading. And somehow, someway they all tie together & show the full scope of the Bible. I let the preist or decan worry about that in his sermon 😃 Many times I do not get it while it is being read, but I do during the sermon 🙂

O’yes … be assured … we Catholics are very much steeped in the Bible.
 
In order for me to fully have discussions here, I have to ask a question.

Do you (everyone/anyone) study the Bible as God’s Word? Do you accept it?

I need to know these things for many reasons. To avoid arguments and to be able to ask proper questions/give proper answers to also avoid arguments.
Seems to be pretty straight forward questions. The answer is yes and yes. What do you have in mind when asking these questions? 🙂
 
… What do you have in mind when asking these questions? 🙂
Hi Reuben, I know you were not posting to me, but I may have been the reason, at least in part, that Seeker posted this & another question. At first I took him to be an upstart. Now I see that I may have been wrong. It is my personal oppenion he is a protestant that simply does not understand that Catholics are not only Christian, we are the “old time religion”. Maybe we can show him around & who knows … maybe he might want to “swim the Tiber”. 🙂
 
Yes, I both study sacred scripture (the bible) and I believe it is inspired, the Word of God.

There is a good source to find out what Catholics believe, a more official source than asking one of us, but of course, feel free to ask! 🙂 I just thought you might want to know that it is there, if you like to look. I will quote it for you. It is quoted by paragraph number, and you will see it abbreviated as the CCC now and then on this site. It is the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
**135 **“The Sacred Scriptures contain the Word of God and, because they are inspired, they are truly the Word of God”
It can be read and searched on line here.
 
Hi Reuben, I know you were not posting to me, but I may have been the reason, at least in part, that Seeker posted this & another question. At first I took him to be an upstart. Now I see that I may have been wrong. It is my personal oppenion he is a protestant that simply does not understand that Catholics are not only Christian, we are the “old time religion”. Maybe we can show him around & who knows … maybe he might want to “swim the Tiber”. 🙂
Thanks, Dirk, for sharing. 🙂

It’s the wise who ask questions and fools who abhor them.

I am sure we at CAF here welcome questions and hopefully be helpful.

God bless you.
 
Yes I do. Yes I do.

I also keep in mind as much as I can the history of how it came to be, and how human communication has come to be.

I also know I dont know the various languages that the orignals were written in. Hebrew, Greek, I certainly never spoke Aramaic, and I know many of the writings were oral traditions handed down before they were written down, as well as many of the books were directed at a certain community of people.
Amen
 
Yes, I read and study the Bible. I have several translations, the KJV, the NAB, the RSV, the Navarre New Testament and the Jerusalem Bible. The NAB and the RSV are study bibles with annotations and cross references. The Jerusalem Bible is a Saints Devotional Bible, which has writings of the Early Church Fathers and the Saints interspersed throughout it which address the particular readings. The Navarre is a combination of both study and devotional but is only the New Testament.

The reading of Scripture is highly recommended by the Church. She even offers a plenary indulgence under the ordinary conditions for reading the Bible for half an hour a day.

The Bible is part of our Tradition as indeed it is our book. It was canonised - declared God-breathed - for use in our Liturgy. Many manuscripts were around at the time and were being read at Mass and the Church set out to determine which of these various writings held the correct teachings and which did not. The OT Scripture which Jesus used was the Septuagint so the ECF used the same. By the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the ECF declared which NT writings were to be included in Scripture. Of the hundreds of documents in circulation, they chose only 27.

Jesus is the Word of God. The Word is not limited to the Bible.

I, too, would like some clarification of the question on accepting it. This seems to be a loaded question to me and could mean many things.

Accept it as what in particular?
 
I love the story about how Protestants complain that the Catholic Bible was placed in the pews with chains attached so the people could not take them and read them outside of Church.

I remember thinking that is weird before I was Catholic, but they forgot to tell me the rest of the story.

Back then the Holy Bible was hand written, could you imagine?

Some where stealing them for money…they were worth quite a bit. I am like ok…that makes sense. but not the way I was told .

A Catholic gave me this story to read as I was learning the faith. I stole the story and placed it on my website

Once there was a very holy abbot called Anastasius. In fact, he was considered a saint by his fellow desert monks. One day when a monk by the name of James sinned and was told to leave the community. Anastasius got up and walked out with him, saying: “I to am a sinner.” James however, did not reform. Years later he came to visit Anastasius as he was saying his evening prayer.
“Don’t worry,” Anastasius replied, “ My rule is to receive you with hospitality.”
And he gave him food and lodging for the night. Anastasius had an old copy of the Bible which was worth quit a bit of money. Seeing the book, James took it with him when he was leaving the next morning. When Anastasius realized that he had stolen the book, he did not follow him. Fearing that he might only make him add the sin of perjury to that of theft, James went to a nearby merchant to sell the book, asking a high price.

“Give me the book for a little while so that I can find out whether it’s worth that much,” the merchant said.
He took it to Anastasius. Anastasius took one look at it and said. “Yes this is a splendid book. In fact it’s worth much more.” The buyer came back and told the thief what Anastasius had said.

Stunned he asked, “ Was that all he said? Did he make no other remarks?”

“No,” said the merchant, “he did not say another word.”

On hearing this James was deeply moved, and said, “I have changed my mind. I don’t want to sell the book after all.” And he hastened back to Anastasius and, with tears in his eyes, gave him back the book and begged for his forgiveness. Anastasius received him with the same kindness as before.

He simply said, “ I forgive you. Keep the book. Read a little from it each day, and pray to Christ who received sinners like us, and brought them back to Gods love and friendship. Now go in peace.

His fellow monks were surprised to see him wasting his time on someone like James, but he said, “Tell me, if your robe is torn, will you throw it away?” And they replied, “No, we will mend it and put it back on.” Then he said, “If you take such care of your robe, will not God be merciful to one who bears his image?”

The kindness of Anastasius paid off. James changed his life. He returned to the life of a monk and became known for his goodness and holiness.

In the Gospel today, the Pharisees despised sinners, but Jesus befriended sinners. It was not a question of a few kind words, or a gesture or two, on his part. He associated with sinners. He shared their food and drink. He did not just tolerate them. He welcomed them. In his presence they felt accepted and loved just as they were. It is not surprising then that ,many of them heard his message and changed their lives. Matthew is an example of this.

Jesus’ attitude to sinners was one of kindness and persuasion rather than condemnation and denunciation. He did not wait for sinners to repent before becoming their friend. No, he befriended them in their sinfulness. This is what scandalized the religious authorities: that he associated with sinners and rejoiced in their company while they were still sinners. Just as today some people see compassion for the criminal as a betrayal of the victim, so the Pharisees saw Jesus’ compassion for the sinner as a betrayal of the virtuous.

Jesus defense was very strait forward, he said he went where the need was greatest. In associating with sinners he was not condoning their situation, rather, he was trying to show them a new life. But he could not do this without associating with them and being sympathetic towards them. You never improve people by shunning them. In acting the way he did, Jesus revealed the mercy of God towards sinners.

Jesus did not show a lack of moral principles by sitting at table and consorting with sinners. Rather, his humility was rich and deep enough to make contact, even in them, with that indestructible core of goodness which is found in all, and upon which the future was to be built. He put them in touch with that in them selves. His goodness evoked goodness in them.

It would be easier, safer, and more popular for him to go among the good. But he was not thinking of himself. He was thinking of others, and of the mission given him by his father. He did not come to call the virtuous but rather sinners to repentance.
 
ok thanks.

Anyone else?
One aspect of reading the bible from a Catholic Perspective; We believe Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets, and that Jesus revealed** all **that pertained to him in the scriptures; see the following gospel;

Luke 24:27
Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them what **referred to him in all **the scriptures.

The Catholic Church is the only living 2000 year old Christian faith that here members reach back to the apostolic period to be handed down these oral and written teachings from Jesus and his apostles, still being practiced by Catholics today unchanged.

Another aspect to this Sacred Apostolic Catholic biblical Tradition, is that Catholics see the New Testament hidden (foreshadowed) in the Old testament, and the Old testament get fulfilled in the New Testament (St. Augustine) just as Jesus revealed from Lukes gospel above from the Law and the prophets.

In fact the mysteries of the most Holy Rosary that Catholics pray are the Gospels of the new Testament, and the fulfilllment of the law and the prophets, prayed in the Rosary.

In summary not only do Catholics, read, consume the Word of God (eucharisticly), hear the Word of God and are taught the Word of God (at every Mass) by a Priest who lives a consecrated life for God (not part of the world) and his Church, but we pray the bible and sing the bible scriptures.

In other words the Word of God is with us, in us in the unity of the Holy Spirit when we give God all the glory and honor for ever and ever Amen.

Peace be with you:)
 
Yes I do. Right now I am re-reading the Gospels for the 4th time, and I know that the red writing is the word of God out of his mouth. I think a person could read and study the Bible their entire life and always find new discoveries and meanings that are relevant to his/her life at any time during it. The Bible is the Truth.👍
 
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