Catholism vs Mormonism

[garyo49]

Dan,
Did you ever acually ask an LDS “do you believe that you can be come a god and rule your own planet?” I doubt it

However, I will now give you an answer

• No the LDS church has never taught me this explicit teaching
• Yes, the LDS church has taught seperate scriptural metaphore and.teachings that Anti-LDS love to combine, as if it a creed LDS recite every day.
• Yes, these same teachings are CORE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE

John 14:2 tells us that God has reserved a place for us." In my Father’s house are many mansions" In some translations it is a place, room, house or mansion.
By the 1800’s we understood God’s house included the billions and billions of stars and planets in all the galaxies and universe. With that context the mataphore extends fine. In my Fathers house (known universe) are many planets. . .
If you’ve read past lds presidents who have spoken on this topic, you will see some references to John 14:2. You may not like how LDS have extended this metaphore, but it is rooted in the Bible.

The Early Church Fathers taught us the concept of deification (this is not an LDS invention). If you were to study your CCC, you would see it is explicitly stated as RCC doctrine:

I know Catholic Theosis is not the same as LDS Exaltation, but it is ridiculous when Catholics completely ignore that LDS doctrine is based on scripture and core RCC doctrine, teachings by the ECF

Without stretching the facts in any fashion, I can claim Catholics believe they are going to become gods of their own posh mansions, just around the corner from where God resides. I could then speculate on who you would be importing to do your gardening, cooking, and cleaning

Tony, do you believe you can become a God and rule your own planet?. Also, don’t tell me this hasn’t been or isn’t taugh because I will provide you with more proof than you can handle.

 

[SteveVH]

Why do you deny what the CCC explicitely says?
Let’s start over. Here is the full context. I’ve summarized the full section of this topic, from par 457-460. I believe all the five reasons that answer the question are all important.

CCC question - Why Did The Son of God Became Man?

1. • For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven
   • in order to save us by reconciling us with God
   • so that thus we might know God’s love
   • to be our model of holiness
   • to make us "partakers of the divine nature"
   There is your context. Now I expand the 5th reason so there is no doubt what is being conveyed explicitely in the CCC
   • The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature”:78
   • "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79
   • "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80
   • "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81
   ZAFF or Soren,
   The challenge for you is to cite other paragraphs in the CCC that contradict what this paragraph explicitely states. I insist on official sources, not your opinion.
   Please do so and educate me!
   

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   I’m also happy to provide you with extensive quotes by the ECF in this area, probably on another thread though

1. 
   While I am hesitant to even enter into another Mormon discussion I just can’t let this go. Soren1 has explained in great depth the differences between theosis and exaltation and you continue over and over defending your position based upon Catholic doctrine. Do you even understand what “partaking of the divine nature” or becoming a “son of God” means in Catholic terms? Please read through Soren1’s post on this subject again. I will not reiterate it here because it would be pointless. You obviously have not tried to even grasp or acknowledge what he has said. It is the grace of God that lifts us up to partake in His divine nature rather than a process based upon our own ability to attain a divine nature. We become part of His divinity, not a separate divinity. We become sons and daughters of God through adaption, not through our own merits. Please try and grasp the differences.

 

[Jerusha]

Steve, Gary has resurrected a thread that is over six months old, and was responding to Tony, who has been banned. I already reported it.

 

[garyo49]

No Dan, it is explicit in the CCC that man can become God
It was also written about extensively by the ECF
I will agree modern catholics have a weak understanding of their doctrine on Theosis though.

Tony you lie. You are trying to twist something to make people believe what you are saying is true. Our Church absolutly does not believe this heterodox doctrine no matter what you say. Instead of refering to “Theosis”, you prove this to us. Your church is totally un-biblical and a heresy to Christianity. Most people that I know, even taking out Catholics and non-Christians out of it, laugh at your religion and the “Golden bible” and all of the kooky things like Adam-God doctrine, a person has to go through Joseph Smith to be admitted to heaven, Mc Conkies Mary was impregnated litterally in the human way by God, God married and has many wives even though Jesus said there is no marriage in the resurection. Joseph Smith and his 33 wives, some as young as 14…What a joke!!