First funny how you are denying your own church’s prayers and doctrines. Holy mary mother of God (she was not the mother of God a very important use of words here)
Really? (I deny no such thing…though
you wish I did.) Then who
was the mother of Jesus? This is a very old heresy answered way early in church history. (Something you’d know if you really bothered to study it.)
You name yourself “Protestant” and yet you deny the very teachings that the three “Pillars of the Reformation” preached about this very important topic. Read it and weep:
The three “pillars of the reformation”, Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli, all believed that Mary was the mother of God.
“In this work whereby she was made the Mother of God, so many and such good things were given her that no one can grasp them… Not only was Mary the mother of Him who is born [in Bethlehem], but of Him who, before the world, was eternally born of the Father, from a Mother in time and at the same time man and God.” (The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, Vol. 7, page 572)
John Calvin: “It cannot be denied that God in choosing and destining Mary to be the Mother of His Son, granted her the highest honor…Elizabeth calls Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the eternal God.” (Calvini Opera, Corpus reformatorum, Braunschweig-Berlin, 1863-1900, Vol. 45, page 348 and 335.)
Ulrich Zwingli: “It was given to her what belongs to no creature, that in the flesh she should bring forth the Son of God.” ( Zwingli Opera, Corpus reformatorum, Berlin, 1905, in Evang. Luc., Op. Comp., Vol.
6, I, page 639.)
pray for us sinners (you have one mediator the man Christ Jesus, no other name under heaven)
That’s not mediation…that’s intercession, another thing altogether. I can’t recount to you how many time I have heard n-C preachers say from their pulpits during their “invitations”, “Just slip your hand up and back down so that we can pray for you…” It’s the same sort of intercession.
now and at the hour of our death (because you have not salvation. You cannot not know the peace inb the anticipation of death that Paul talks about in being absent from the body)
This is just more rhetoric. I know that in my own life I have no great fear of death ***because of ***my faith. I long to face my Lord and and embrace His feet in praise and thanksgiving for the mercy He has given me and the terrible sacrifice that He endured for me.
I live every moment of every day in that hope of salvation. 1st Thessalonians 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, having on the breastplate of faith and charity, and for a helmet the hope of salvation
I have no doubt that most of my fellow Catholic brethren will express some similar hope and faith.
You mention heretic teachings that is exactly what the cc is. AND YOU KNOW IT! For that and that alone you may stand condemned. If I were you and you really worship our Lord I would fall on my knees and pray for His forgiveness and leave Mary (who does not hear you) out of it.
Really? I think not! In fact, I can point to several statements you have made which do indeed fall under historically verifiable condemned heresies from even so far back as the first 3 centuries of Christianity.
In fact, I know no heretical beliefs in my life. I dumped them once I came to the realization that that is what they were as I compared them, their sources, and both the Word of God and authentic Catholic teaching.
I never said that the cc is wrong about everything.
One cannot tell from your diatribes…
It has started in me an awareness of things of God and a love for my Lord. I am gratefull eternally that as well God showed me truth so that He could grow my faith.
This is about the only thing that I can agree with. Perhaps and God willing, as you do grow, you will see that your teachers and preachers have led you astray and deceived you. That is a hope that i hang my prayers for you upon.
You are so lost and as usual those lost cannot see it despite Gods words.
I could assert the same of you, but I won’t.
If He chooses to soften your hearts He will. This is not my fight but the Lords. As said best in Jude, Let the Lord rebuke you! and btw He will.
Nice out of context reference there. I’m well familiar with that verse in St. Jude’s epistle, which actually reads as follows in context.[8] Yet in like manner these men in their dreamings defile the flesh, reject authority, and revile the glorious ones.
[9] But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
[10] But these men revile whatever they do not understand, and by those things that they know by instinct as irrational animals do, they are destroyed.
[11] Woe to them! For they walk in the way of Cain, and abandon themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam’s error, and perish in Korah’s rebellion.
Unfortunately for you, this citation applies to those who have embraced errors and heresies and departed from the Church that Christ founded. (Who do you suppose that might be?
Not the Catholic Church as it has been proven here…)
Worse still, this is a passage that proves that even the apostles set Sacred Tradition on a level with their own writings because this does not quote the Old Testament, but the non canonical Jewish traditional text of The Assumption of Moses.
Yet you just quoted it as inspired and the Church accepted it as such along with the other 26 books of the NT canon.
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions”
I KNEW it! McCarthy’s book is well know to me and many of my fellow Catholics. If you had bothered to search these forums before diving in headlong you’d know that this man’s a-C book has been refuted. Perhaps you’ll also take the time to get and read, http://www.handsonapologetics.com/GOM AD 1.jpg
