Cause for Concern or a Nit?

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Should I be concerned about this?

We are considering joining a parish that we have been attending Mass at for a few weeks now, Transfiguration in Pittsford, NY. We love the people, the Mass is spritually uplifting and the music wonderful.

My only observed “nits” thusfar is that at the end of the Eucharistic Blessing, the Pastor says…

"…all Glory and Honor is Yours Almighty God, forever and ever…’ (its should be Almightly Father…), and that the Pastor does not bow after transsubstantiating the bread into the body of Our Lord, but instead waits until after both forms are transsubstantiated and bowa to both together.

Other that these, we have been pretty happy with the form and flow of the Mass.

Given that I am in Rochester, NY and that we are looking for a new parish because of the rampant abuses at our former church (Resurrection in Fairport), need I worry about this or are these truly nits?
 
If you like that parish and are considering making it your parish you need to ask some questions.

Any Priest worth the name of Priest would answer you question about what he is doing during the Mass. It seems odd to me that he changed two things. Just write the questions so you are asking exactly what you want to ask…and go ask him. Do it after Mass so he has a few minutes to answer you.:tsktsk:
 
The first part is a legitimate question and should be followed-up. The second part is a “nit”. While it is a deviation from the rules, many priests have have bad knees where genuflection is difficult, so they substitute the profound bow.
 
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BrianDay:
The first part is a legitimate question and should be followed-up. The second part is a “nit”. While it is a deviation from the rules, many priests have have bad knees where genuflection is difficult, so they substitute the profound bow.
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This is not a “nit.” The original poster says that he bows only after the consecration of the wine. Now, the priest is required to genuflect (unless physical impairment prevents him from doing so) after the consecration of the bread and also after the consecration of the wine. It is not evident from the posting that he may have a physical impairment, and so not be required to genuflect, but, if he has, then he should bow at each, not after both.
 
There are no “nits” when it comes to monkeying around with the liturgy of teh Church. The liturgy is not the sole province of bishops and priests, whether traditional or “progressive.” The liturgy is the corporate worship of the entire Church and, as such, must be celebrated in accordance with approved norms. The abuses you described are fairly minor but they are, nonetheless, abuses that should be corrected. When individual priests experiment with the liturgy, they are sowing the seeds of division within the Body of Christ.
 
What is a “NIT”? (I am new and I have a lot to learn about the FORUM but so far I love it.)
 
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What is a “NIT”? (I am new and I have a lot to learn about the FORUM but so far I love it.)
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Nit as in ‘nit-picking’,

The idiom means to excessively concerned about a small matter\issue.

(technically, a nit is the egg of a louse (lice))
 
Well, in both cases, the priest is obviously not being true to the liturgical norms. However, I would say that these things are relatively minor (and in the case of making “Father” into the inclusive language “God”, pretty common) and that they shouldn’t be deal breakers. If those are the only problems you have found, then you’re probably doing pretty good, all things considered.
 
I think the term “Father” is clearly no the same as “God” in the context of the Holy Trinity. By changing the word “Father” to “God” in any prayer, the meaning is necessarily changed, I just do not know the import of this in theological terms.

The genuflecting is being done after consecration of the bread and wine, from what I can tell, as an economy of time and not due to a physical disability. The genuflection is properly done after each consecration separately according to everything I have read on the subject.

Compared to the rampant abuses I have witnessed in this most un-Catholic Diocese of Rochester, NY, I think we are doing pretty well with the Mass at “Transfig”. I simply will not find a Parish anywhere around here where some abuse is not evident, that’s on the shoulders of our ultra-liberal Bishop as far as I am concerned.

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The entire canon of the Mass consists of our offering to the Father the perfect sacrifice accomplished by the Son, so theologically, it is improper to change the word “Father” to “God.”

The Son offers His sacrifice (and ours) to his heavenly Father, on our behalf.
 
Lex orandi, lex credendi.

By changing Father to God, we lose an important “feature” of liturgical worship: worship of the Father through the Son in the Holy Spirit. The Trinitarian aspect is distinctly blurred, when it should be clear.

We also lose sight of the Fatherhood of God: that is, his being the source of our life, and the One who gives us a heavenly inheritance.

Not a nit, IMHO. I think the Great Doxology is nothing to mess with.
 
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