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Continuing with Section One (I Believe…We Believe), moving forward to Chapter Two (God Comes to meet God)
If anyone is interested in contributing to the previous topics, they can be found at the following links:
CHAPTER ONE (Man’s Capacity for God):
CCC Discussion: The Desire For God
CCC Discussion: Ways of Coming to Know God
CCC Discussion: The Knowledge of God according to the Church
CCC Discussion: How can we speak about God?
The format for these discussions will be as follows:
(1) Indicate in the poll if you agree with the various paragraphs indicated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Please note that your answers will be known to others in the forum.
(2) If you wish, express the reasons for your selection(s) (or lack thereof) in the thread.
(3) Discuss the issues in the thread with each other as desired (in a respectful manner
).
GOD COMES TO MEET MAN
50 By natural reason man can know God with certainty, on the basis of his works. But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. Through an utterly free decision, God has revealed himself and given himself to man. This he does by revealing the mystery, his plan of loving goodness, formed from all eternity in Christ, for the benefit of all men. God has fully revealed this plan by sending us his beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
ARTICLE 1
THE REVELATION OF GOD
I. GOD REVEALS HIS "PLAN OF LOVING GOODNESS"
51 “It pleased God, in his goodness and wisdom, to reveal himself and to make known the mystery of his will. His will was that men should have access to the Father, through Christ, the Word made flesh, in the Holy Spirit, and thus become sharers in the divine nature.”
52 God, who “dwells in unapproachable light”, wants to communicate his own divine life to the men he freely created, in order to adopt them as his sons in his only-begotten Son. By revealing himself God wishes to make them capable of responding to him, and of knowing him and of loving him far beyond their own natural capacity.
53 The divine plan of Revelation is realized simultaneously “by deeds and words which are intrinsically bound up with each other” and shed light on each another. It involves a specific divine pedagogy: God communicates himself to man gradually. He prepares him to welcome by stages the supernatural Revelation that is to culminate in the person and mission of the incarnate Word, Jesus Christ.
St. Irenaeus of Lyons repeatedly speaks of this divine pedagogy using the image of God and man becoming accustomed to one another: The Word of God dwelt in man and became the Son of man in order to accustom man to perceive God and to accustom God to dwell in man, according to the Father’s pleasure. (St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3,20,2
G 7/1,944; cf. 3,17,1; 4,12,4; 4,21,3.)
If anyone is interested in contributing to the previous topics, they can be found at the following links:
CHAPTER ONE (Man’s Capacity for God):
CCC Discussion: The Desire For God
CCC Discussion: Ways of Coming to Know God
CCC Discussion: The Knowledge of God according to the Church
CCC Discussion: How can we speak about God?
The format for these discussions will be as follows:
(1) Indicate in the poll if you agree with the various paragraphs indicated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Please note that your answers will be known to others in the forum.
(2) If you wish, express the reasons for your selection(s) (or lack thereof) in the thread.
(3) Discuss the issues in the thread with each other as desired (in a respectful manner
).The purpose of this thread, and the others to come related to it is to dialogue with others to see if we can at the very least understand each others points of view more clearly, or perhaps come closer together as people learning to seek the truth about ourselves and/or God.
CHAPTER TWOGOD COMES TO MEET MAN
50 By natural reason man can know God with certainty, on the basis of his works. But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. Through an utterly free decision, God has revealed himself and given himself to man. This he does by revealing the mystery, his plan of loving goodness, formed from all eternity in Christ, for the benefit of all men. God has fully revealed this plan by sending us his beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
ARTICLE 1
THE REVELATION OF GOD
I. GOD REVEALS HIS "PLAN OF LOVING GOODNESS"
51 “It pleased God, in his goodness and wisdom, to reveal himself and to make known the mystery of his will. His will was that men should have access to the Father, through Christ, the Word made flesh, in the Holy Spirit, and thus become sharers in the divine nature.”
52 God, who “dwells in unapproachable light”, wants to communicate his own divine life to the men he freely created, in order to adopt them as his sons in his only-begotten Son. By revealing himself God wishes to make them capable of responding to him, and of knowing him and of loving him far beyond their own natural capacity.
53 The divine plan of Revelation is realized simultaneously “by deeds and words which are intrinsically bound up with each other” and shed light on each another. It involves a specific divine pedagogy: God communicates himself to man gradually. He prepares him to welcome by stages the supernatural Revelation that is to culminate in the person and mission of the incarnate Word, Jesus Christ.
St. Irenaeus of Lyons repeatedly speaks of this divine pedagogy using the image of God and man becoming accustomed to one another: The Word of God dwelt in man and became the Son of man in order to accustom man to perceive God and to accustom God to dwell in man, according to the Father’s pleasure. (St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3,20,2
G 7/1,944; cf. 3,17,1; 4,12,4; 4,21,3.)