CCC Scripture citations index- it's on

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tobinatorstark said:
Luke 1:28 is an example…

Douay-Rheims And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women

RSV-CE And he came to her and said, Hail, full grace, the Lord is with you.
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Now that is odd. The KJV has “blessed art thou…”, and the RSV-CE is along the same lines as the KJV, right? But the RSV-CE has a tendency to defer to the Latin Vulgate in matters of translation, I thought? Or is it rather the Biblia Nova Vulgata (which doesn’t have “blessed art thou…”)?
 
japhy said:
Now that is odd. The KJV has “blessed art thou…”, and the RSV-CE is along the same lines as the KJV, right? But the RSV-CE has a tendency to defer to the Latin Vulgate in matters of translation, I thought? Or is it rather the Biblia Nova Vulgata (which doesn’t have “blessed art thou…”)?
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The RSV-CE, JB, NJB, NAB, Nova Vulgata all shy away from the traditional Latin Vulgate versions used from Jerome through Clementine because of Pope Pius XII’s encyclical “Divino Afflante Spiritu” on making translations from “original” languages.
 
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Those are some good reasons. If I had my way I would have the Greek Septuagint play a much bigger part for the OT and I would have the Aramaic Peshitta play a bigger part with the Gospel of Matthew. I would also have the DR revised to suit the modern day English reader, but it would be a very strict revision that do very very minimal amount of changes in order to make it easier on the ears.
 
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tobinatorstark

Those are some good reasons. If I had my way I would have the Greek Septuagint play a much bigger part for the OT and I would have the Aramaic Peshitta play a bigger part with the Gospel of Matthew. I would also have the DR revised to suit the modern day English reader, but it would be a very strict revision that do very very minimal amount of changes in order to make it easier on the ears.
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Thanks for seeing my point of view. I too would like to see the DR revised in the way described. And from what you described that you don’t want to diminish the DR’s value.
 
Outstanding resource. Thank you!

Very valuable for a Catholic bible study. My group is in John 7 right now, going on to Romans after that. So … you could do those before you do Deuteronomy if you want to. 🙂
 
I have four of my five tools completed. I’m transitioning the CCC-to-Scripture index into a full-fledged search application here. It’ll be done in the next day or so.
 
Ok, I’ve done a pretty thorough vetting of the digital copy of the footnotes. I found a lot of typos and have corrected them. There could still be some, but I think it’s very reliable now.

I have gotten to a stopping point (for now) with my Catechism search tool. You can look up CCC paragraphs by Scripture reference, by text, by number, and by section.
 
COPLAND_3 said:
japhy

I have just tried it out, awesome! Thank you so much!
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I’ll second that. I do a weekly Bible study and one of my objectives is to link the passages to the CCC. This is extremely helpful. We start John 7 next week, this now allows me to give the guys all citations and CCC paragraphs for the chapter.

Copland, what’s your best means of referencing the church fathers for study? Right now I just go to online sources for Aquinas, Christostam, and Augustine and copy/paste what I can find for a chapter into a Word file. I email that file to the guys in the study. I’m happy to do it, but if there’s a faster/better way I’d love to know.

Thanks to you both for this resource. It is extremely helpful.
 
Strategery said:
I’ll second that. I do a weekly Bible study and one of my objectives is to link the passages to the CCC. This is extremely helpful. We start John 7 next week, this now allows me to give the guys all citations and CCC paragraphs for the chapter.
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That’s the exact reason I created this tool. I lead a Bible Study, and we’re focusing on Paul (via the Second Reading at Sunday Mass), and I like to tie in the catechism at the end. This tool lets me do just that.
Strategery said:
Copland, what’s your best means of referencing the church fathers for study? Right now I just go to online sources for Aquinas, Christostam, and Augustine and copy/paste what I can find for a chapter into a Word file. I email that file to the guys in the study. I’m happy to do it, but if there’s a faster/better way I’d love to know.
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I can’t speak for Copland, but I use ccel.org/fathers/. As far as Mass pericopes go, textweek.com/ is a helpful resource because it has already done some cross-referencing for you (Church Father texts that refer to verses being read at Mass). There’s also Gospel commentary in the Catena Aurea (compiled by Aquinas) which you can find online at catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php.
 
Strategery said:
I’ll second that. I do a weekly Bible study and one of my objectives is to link the passages to the CCC. This is extremely helpful. We start John 7 next week, this now allows me to give the guys all citations and CCC paragraphs for the chapter.

Copland, what’s your best means of referencing the church fathers for study? Right now I just go to online sources for Aquinas, Christostam, and Augustine and copy/paste what I can find for a chapter into a Word file. I email that file to the guys in the study. I’m happy to do it, but if there’s a faster/better way I’d love to know.

Thanks to you both for this resource. It is extremely helpful.
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I too do a Bible study but it is every other week.We also go more than just the Bible, we also use Pope John Paul’s encyclical Laborem Exercens and the book we use gives references from the CCC.
 
japhy said:
I can’t speak for Copland, but I use ccel.org/fathers/. As far as Mass pericopes go, textweek.com/ is a helpful resource because it has already done some cross-referencing for you (Church Father texts that refer to verses being read at Mass). There’s also Gospel commentary in the Catena Aurea (compiled by Aquinas) which you can find online at catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php.
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Can you help me with the fathers that Aquinas quotes in the quotes in cantena aurea? Are these abbreviations or full names?

THEOPHYL = ?
ALCUIN = ?
 
japhy said:
I don’t know who Theophylactus is. Alcuin is this one, I think.
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I can find two folks named Theophylactus, one from Constantinople in the 8th century, and the other is the Bishop of Achidna (Albania) in the 11th century. Just from Google, it looks like Theophylactus of Achrida produced commentaries that were relied upon in the midievel times. Based on this micro-research, I’d think this is who Aquinas is citing.

Edit - here’s a link from Wikipedia, FWIW.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylact_of_Bulgaria
 
Copland, what’s your best means of referencing the church fathers for study? Right now I just go to online sources for Aquinas, Christostam, and Augustine and copy/paste what I can find for a chapter into a Word file. I email that file to the guys in the study. I’m happy to do it, but if there’s a faster/better way I’d love to know.
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japhy gave a great source with ccel.org/fathers/ because it has a Scripture index. Plus I have a resource of Bible commentaries from the Church Fathers litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Bible+Commentaries-Fathers+and+Doctors
 
Just want you guys to know I’ve used this several times this week. It is extremely useful and I appreciate it very much. I’ll be using it regularly in my weekly bible study.
 
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