Celebrating Frank Sinatra

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last week on tv they paid tribute to Frank Sinatra, who would have turned 100 this month, with a special performing many of his best loved songs. Frank was a Catholic. I think he was a great performer on screen and on stage. A great entertainer.

Anyone want to share a favorite movie or song?

I liked the song One For My Baby (And One For the Road).
I remember my dad taking my sister and I to the drive in to see Von Ryan’s Express. I liked it a lot.

Anyhow-quite a career and an interesting life.
 
7_Sorrows said:
last week on tv they paid tribute to Frank Sinatra, who would have turned 100 this month, with a special performing many of his best loved songs. Frank was a Catholic. I think he was a great performer on screen and on stage. A great entertainer.

Anyone want to share a favorite movie or song?

I liked the song One For My Baby (And One For the Road).
I remember my dad taking my sister and I to the drive in to see Von Ryan’s Express. I liked it a lot.

Anyhow-quite a career and an interesting life.
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I didn’t get to see it but I really do like Frank Sinatra’s music that man had a very hard life. I’m glad you like him
 
I was at my mom’s today, and the HBO channels were playing the Sinatra documentary all day (which we had both seen before). Amazing singer, a very colorful life. I’ve had his version of One Note Samba running through my mind lately.
 
Based on what’s public about his life, think he needs more prayers than “celebration.”
 
DaddyGirl said:
Love that Frank.
His birthday is…TODAY!
Fave songs: Summer Wind, One For My Baby, and NY-NY (natch).

I just went to a " birthday party" for him at Patsy’s…the West Side hangout he used to go to all the time. People send birthday cards to him there! Frank never liked to eat alone, says the owner. He’d invite tons of people and tell them to bring friends and pay for everyone. His fave dish? Chicken Marsala. (…or was it Veal Marabella? Oy.).

Re religion, Frank was baptized, but not religious. He sounds quite agnostic, saying in one in-depth interview:

" …I think I can sum up my religious feelings in a couple of paragraphs. First: I believe in you and me. I’m like Albert Schweitzer and Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein in that I have a respect for life — in any form.
I believe in nature, in the birds, the sea, the sky, in everything I can see or that there is real evidence for.
If these things are what you mean by God, then I believe in God.
But I don’t believe in a personal God to whom I look for comfort or for a natural on the next roll of the dice. I’m not unmindful of man’s seeming need for faith; I’m for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniel’s.

But to me religion is a deeply personal thing in which man and God go it alone together, without the witch doctor in the middle. The witch doctor tries to convince us that we have to ask God for help, to spell out to him what we need, even to bribe him with prayer or cash on the line.
Well, I believe that God knows what each of us wants and needs. It’s not necessary for us to make it to church on Sunday to reach Him. You can find Him anyplace. And if that sounds heretical, my source is pretty good: Matthew, Five to Seven, The Sermon on the Mount.

There are things about organized religion which I resent.
Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history. You show me one step forward in the name of religion and I’ll show you a hundred retrogressions.

Remember, they were men of God who destroyed the educational treasures at Alexandria, who perpetrated the Inquisition in Spain, who burned the witches at Salem. Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well… "

etc, etc…
deadstate.org/frank-sinatras-views-on-organized-religion-were-decades-ahead-of-his-time/

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That interview was from 1963. It seems he might have reconciled with the Church and his faith in his later years. At any rate, his funeral Mass was held at the Church of the Good Shepherd here in Beverly Hills, with our cardinal as the main celebrant. If he was truly ambivalent about religion when he died, he could have had any sort of memorial service, but the family went with a Catholic funeral, and I doubt it was against his wishes.

Anyways, Happy birthday, Frank! Rest in Peace.
 
christofirst said:
I was at my mom’s today, and the HBO channels were playing the Sinatra documentary all day (which we had both seen before). Amazing singer, a very colorful life. I’ve had his version of One Note Samba running through my mind lately.
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I have not seen the documentary you mention in your post, but I would like to.
 
christofirst said:
That interview was from 1963. It seems he might have reconciled with the Church and his faith in his later years. At any rate, his funeral Mass was held at the Church of the Good Shepherd here in Beverly Hills, with our cardinal as the main celebrant. If he was truly ambivalent about religion when he died, he could have had any sort of memorial service, but the family went with a Catholic funeral, and I doubt it was against his wishes.

Anyways, Happy birthday, Frank! Rest in Peace.
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I know that Frank Sinatra did not live a sin free life. he was in the entertainment for goodness sake. I also feel he probably reconciled with God and the Church in his later life. He was blessed with the gift of a beautiful voice which brought joy to a lot of people. He definitely had a life of ups and downs. I believe as he looked back over his life he had to have seen God’s hand guiding him and getting him through everything.
 
Well, he was a singer, not a theologian, for sure.
I’m glad to hear he reconciled with the church toward the end,
May he rest in peace.

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I love Sinatra. I can’t really pick a favorite song or movie. His old musicals were great (On The Town, Pal Joey, Gus & Dolls, Take Me Out to the Ballgame, etc.), but so were his dramatic roles and his stuff with the Rat Pack. In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning is one of my favorite albums ever, but so is A Jolly Christmas. I’m not sure that we’ll watch anything with him in it this week, but we’ll definitely hear a lot of his Christmas music.
 
PaulfromIowa said:
Frank Sinatra lived much of his adult life in a very non-Christian way, sadly. He returned to the Church in later life, had his last marriage convalidated in the Church.

iHeart radio The Standard has Sinatra on all weekend.

iheart.com/live/the-standard-radio-6784/
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thanks for the link and further info.

I don’t want to be judgmental and as I said earlier he was not sin free, but I am sure there were Christian ways that he had - such as giving to charities, helping others, etc. that were overshadowed by his vices.
if he had reconciled with the Church I am hoping he would have repented of many of his sins - so I am not one to judge.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I have not seen the documentary you mention in your post, but I would like to.
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Yes, the multi-part documentary is called, “All or Nothing” and it is worth seeing. It was produced with the blessing and cooperation of his family (Nancy Sinatra is quoted a lot), but it does not shy away from the controversial aspects of his life. His music features prominently throughout, with lots of old film clips spanning his career.

What struck me most is just how hard he worked to make his incredible voice and phrasing seem effortless.
 
christofirst said:
Yes, the multi-part documentary is called, “All or Nothing” and it is worth seeing. It was produced with the blessing and cooperation of his family (Nancy Sinatra is quoted a lot), but it does not shy away from the controversial aspects of his life. His music features prominently throughout, with lots of old film clips spanning his career.

What struck me most is just how hard he worked to make his incredible voice and phrasing seem effortless.
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I think I heard when he first started out he could not read music.
he seemed to work hard at whatever he did.

my dad and his friends use to call themselves “the rat pack”. they were a generation that lived life to the fullest!
 
I am a big fan. His “Someone to Watch Over Me” is probably my favorite, but there are so many I like. That being said, I will not listen to “My Way” which I appropriately heard described as the theme song for Hell.
 
I love Frank Sinatra’s music, and Swing, and easy listening music in general. Old songs are much more beautiful than the music made today in my opinion. 🙂

I don’t really know much about Frank Sinatra himself though.
 
7_Sorrows said:
last week on tv they paid tribute to Frank Sinatra, who would have turned 100 this month, with a special performing many of his best loved songs. Frank was a Catholic. I think he was a great performer on screen and on stage. A great entertainer.

Anyone want to share a favorite movie or song?

I liked the song One For My Baby (And One For the Road).
I remember my dad taking my sister and I to the drive in to see Von Ryan’s Express. I liked it a lot.

Anyhow-quite a career and an interesting life.
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I went through this crazy period of watching Frank Sinatra movies - On the Town was a favorite. I thought he was so cute; it was a little crush. (this wasn’t the 50s either; this is why it was a little strange; it was the 90s) His music isn’t really my style but I don’t strongly dislike it. It is very evocative.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I went through this crazy period of watching Frank Sinatra movies - On the Town was a favorite. I thought he was so cute; it was a little crush. (this wasn’t the 50s either; this is why it was a little strange; it was the 90s) His music isn’t really my style but I don’t strongly dislike it. It is very evocative.
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they have been showing Pal Joey recently, but I haven’t been able to watch the whole movie.

I haven’t seen On The Town. He was a good dramatic actor too.
 
7_Sorrows said:
they have been showing Pal Joey recently, but I haven’t been able to watch the whole movie.

I haven’t seen On The Town. He was a good dramatic actor too.
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On The Town is really more of a Gene Kelly vehicle - Sinatra has a smaller role. It is just a well done pretty typical 50s style musical comedy - better than most. If you like Kelly or Sinatra, you should definitely watch it.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
On The Town is really more of a Gene Kelly vehicle - Sinatra has a smaller role. It is just a well done pretty typical 50s style musical comedy - better than most. If you like Kelly or Sinatra, you should definitely watch it.
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I love musicals. so I will try to watch it sometime.

does anyone know if one for my baby and one for the road is from a particular movie?
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I went through this crazy period of watching Frank Sinatra movies - On the Town was a favorite. I thought he was so cute; it was a little crush. (this wasn’t the 50s either; this is why it was a little strange; it was the 90s) His music isn’t really my style but I don’t strongly dislike it. It is very evocative.
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How about ‘From Here to Eternity’ for which he won the Oscar?
 
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