Celebrating Holy Week two times

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I’m just wondering… is it permissable for someone to celebrate Holy Week two times, or does that send the wrong message (as if they think it happened twice, or something else, which is false). I mean with the different calendars.

I go to a Latin rite parish usually so I’d love to participate in their Easter. Also if it’s the case that I’m outside of the territorial boundaries of my church (Russian Catholic), apparently I can do this. But then when next week comes and it’s the Russian Catholic Holy Week, I’d like to celebrate it too and also my Orthodox family celebrates it then.

Is that strange to do? 🙂 lol. Any thoughts?
 
I would say it’s fine. You know it didn’t happen twice, and you are just celebrating it again with your fellow Christians. There’s nothing wrong with that. I periodically celebrate feasts more than once per year based on the calendars of my local Orthodox Churches vs my Catholic Churches. It’s just another day to praise God.
 
Monica4316 said:
I go to a Latin rite parish usually so I’d love to participate in their Easter. Also if it’s the case that I’m outside of the territorial boundaries of my church (Russian Catholic), apparently I can do this. But then when next week comes and it’s the Russian Catholic Holy Week, I’d like to celebrate it too and also my Orthodox family celebrates it then.

Is that strange to do? 🙂 lol. Any thoughts?
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Of course you could also attend Palm Sunday liturgy twice in a row, and skip Easter liturgy entirely for the year, and that would probably be a tad more peculiar.
 
Even a one sui juris Church would celebrate Easter (and even the entire calendar) on two different calendars. The Ukrainian Church still follows the Julian Calendar in Ukraine, but in most other countries they are in, they follow the Gregorian Calendar. And yet among those there are some parishes that follow the Julian. So not only Easter, but even Christmas is celebrated on different days.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Even a one sui juris Church would celebrate Easter (and even the entire calendar) on two different calendars. The Ukrainian Church still follows the Julian Calendar in Ukraine, but in most other countries they are in, they follow the Gregorian Calendar. And yet among those there are some parishes that follow the Julian. So not only Easter, but even Christmas is celebrated on different days.
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BusterMartin said:
I would say it’s fine. You know it didn’t happen twice, and you are just celebrating it again with your fellow Christians. There’s nothing wrong with that. I periodically celebrate feasts more than once per year based on the calendars of my local Orthodox Churches vs my Catholic Churches. It’s just another day to praise God.
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I’m sorry, but it seems that NO ONE on these forums gets this issue, in the least! We are not talking about what HAPPENED, Easter, HAPPENS every year! We’re not just remembering or commemorating the events of 2000 yrs ago. the church LIVES these events!

Easter is not simply a celebration of the Resurrection like every Sunday. The Church teaches, that in Christ’s mystical body, these events actually reoccur every year. As such, we have no masses on Good Friday ( or if we do they’re with the pre-sanctified Gifts" and on Easter Sunday we proclaim that Christ is Rise, that day!!!

So, for one, that means that Christ’s mystical body goes through the agony twice and that the resurrection also happens twice. This in itself is a huge problem!! But then, do we add insult to injury by ignoring one or by celebrating both? I simply don’t understand how the Church leaders accept and tolerate this kind of division regarding the DATE OF EASTER no less!

For instance, with one part of the family we celebrated Easter today, though we attended the Palm Sunday mass (as if that makes sense, but hey, we didn’t create this situation), but we will be celebrating Easter, in our Church next week. Now, explain to children how it comes that we get 2 Easters!

And in out great love for Christ, we allow His mystical body to suffer that terrible agony twice? That’s hypocrisy at very best.

Technically, some say it is heretical to celebrate Easter twice, since, again, we are LIVING the events of Easter, not just remembering them, but what is it to ignore Christ’s death next Friday?

God have mercy on us!
 
The way I understand it is that you are bound to the rules of the rite or church sui juris that you are officially a member of. As long as you meet those obligations (as far as holy days of obligation and obligatory fast/abstinence days) you can do whatever you want beyond that.
 
1inICXC said:
I’m sorry, but it seems that NO ONE on these forums gets this issue, in the least! We are not talking about what HAPPENED, Easter, HAPPENS every year! We’re not just remembering or commemorating the events of 2000 yrs ago. the church LIVES these events!

Easter is not simply a celebration of the Resurrection like every Sunday. The Church teaches, that in Christ’s mystical body, these events actually reoccur every year. As such, we have no masses on Good Friday ( or if we do they’re with the pre-sanctified Gifts" and on Easter Sunday we proclaim that Christ is Rise, that day!!!

So, for one, that means that Christ’s mystical body goes through the agony twice and that the resurrection also happens twice. This in itself is a huge problem!! But then, do we add insult to injury by ignoring one or by celebrating both? I simply don’t understand how the Church leaders accept and tolerate this kind of division regarding the DATE OF EASTER no less!

For instance, with one part of the family we celebrated Easter today, though we attended the Palm Sunday mass (as if that makes sense, but hey, we didn’t create this situation), but we will be celebrating Easter, in our Church next week. Now, explain to children how it comes that we get 2 Easters!

And in out great love for Christ, we allow His mystical body to suffer that terrible agony twice? That’s hypocrisy at very best.

Technically, some say it is heretical to celebrate Easter twice, since, again, we are LIVING the events of Easter, not just remembering them, but what is it to ignore Christ’s death next Friday?

God have mercy on us!
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But Easter is not just limited to one day per year. Just as the lamb is crucified eternally, so too is Jesus risen eternally. We have to recognize that the day on our calendars is one that has been established as a special remembrance of an event that happens now, and ever, and unto the ages of ages.
 
Cavaradossi said:
But Easter is not just limited to one day per year. Just as the lamb is crucified eternally, so too is Jesus risen eternally. We have to recognize that the day on our calendars is one that has been established as a special remembrance of an event that happens now, and ever, and unto the ages of ages.
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1inICXC said:
I’m sorry, but it seems that NO ONE on these forums gets this issue, in the least! We are not talking about what HAPPENED, Easter, HAPPENS every year! We’re not just remembering or commemorating the events of 2000 yrs ago. the church LIVES these events!

Easter is not simply a celebration of the Resurrection like every Sunday. The Church teaches, that in Christ’s mystical body, these events actually reoccur every year. As such, we have no masses on Good Friday ( or if we do they’re with the pre-sanctified Gifts" and on Easter Sunday we proclaim that Christ is Rise, that day!!!

So, for one, that means that Christ’s mystical body goes through the agony twice and that the resurrection also happens twice. This in itself is a huge problem!! But then, do we add insult to injury by ignoring one or by celebrating both? I simply don’t understand how the Church leaders accept and tolerate this kind of division regarding the DATE OF EASTER no less!

For instance, with one part of the family we celebrated Easter today, though we attended the Palm Sunday mass (as if that makes sense, but hey, we didn’t create this situation), but we will be celebrating Easter, in our Church next week. Now, explain to children how it comes that we get 2 Easters!

And in out great love for Christ, we allow His mystical body to suffer that terrible agony twice? That’s hypocrisy at very best.

Technically, some say it is heretical to celebrate Easter twice, since, again, we are LIVING the events of Easter, not just remembering them, but what is it to ignore Christ’s death next Friday?

God have mercy on us!
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Wait, what? No! Christ doesn’t go through the suffering, at least in the sense that He suffers again. Where’d you get that? The sacrifice is eternal, but that doesn’t mean the suffering is.
 
Cavaradossi said:
But Easter is not just limited to one day per year. Just as the lamb is crucified eternally, so too is Jesus risen eternally. We have to recognize that the day on our calendars is one that has been established as a special remembrance of an event that happens now, and ever, and unto the ages of ages.
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Very good sir! (I second ConstantineTG’s motion).

The only problem is that two calendars, as we have in the UGCC, can be divisive. It isn’t in areas where there is the new calendar. But in eastern Canada, I know of families who celebrate Easter on different dates and parishes who do it twice as well.

I have friends who celebrate the traditional Eastern Easter - but who normally don’t attend Good Friday services when it falls outside the new calendar Easter.

And when the Easters are together - they still don’t go to church but sleep in. The Easter basket tradition, on the other hand, is always in full swing . . . I guess some people prefer blessed kielbasa to Jesus Christ (words from a priest during a sermon two years ago).

I prefer an Easter when everyone can come to Church and has no excuse otherwise.

Alex
 
Monica4316 said:
Based on another thread…

I’m just wondering… is it permissable for someone to celebrate Holy Week two times, or does that send the wrong message (as if they think it happened twice, or something else, which is false). I mean with the different calendars.

I go to a Latin rite parish usually so I’d love to participate in their Easter. Also if it’s the case that I’m outside of the territorial boundaries of my church (Russian Catholic), apparently I can do this. But then when next week comes and it’s the Russian Catholic Holy Week, I’d like to celebrate it too and also my Orthodox family celebrates it then.

Is that strange to do? 🙂 lol. Any thoughts?
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You attend either service, especially because of access issues, and yes, if the holidays celebreated seem to be repetitive due to the diferent calendaras and tradiations, that’s fine.
 
1inICXC said:
I’m sorry, but it seems that NO ONE on these forums gets this issue, in the least! We are not talking about what HAPPENED, Easter, HAPPENS every year! We’re not just remembering or commemorating the events of 2000 yrs ago. the church LIVES these events!

Easter is not simply a celebration of the Resurrection like every Sunday. The Church teaches, that in Christ’s mystical body, these events actually reoccur every year. As such, we have no masses on Good Friday ( or if we do they’re with the pre-sanctified Gifts" and on Easter Sunday we proclaim that Christ is Rise, that day!!!

So, for one, that means that Christ’s mystical body goes through the agony twice and that the resurrection also happens twice. This in itself is a huge problem!! But then, do we add insult to injury by ignoring one or by celebrating both? I simply don’t understand how the Church leaders accept and tolerate this kind of division regarding the DATE OF EASTER no less!

For instance, with one part of the family we celebrated Easter today, though we attended the Palm Sunday mass (as if that makes sense, but hey, we didn’t create this situation), but we will be celebrating Easter, in our Church next week. Now, explain to children how it comes that we get 2 Easters!

And in out great love for Christ, we allow His mystical body to suffer that terrible agony twice? That’s hypocrisy at very best.

Technically, some say it is heretical to celebrate Easter twice, since, again, we are LIVING the events of Easter, not just remembering them, but what is it to ignore Christ’s death next Friday?

God have mercy on us!
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First of all Christ is not suffering with our celebration of Easter!
 
I understand that the Latin Catholic Church in Israel will, beginning next year, celebrate Easter on the Eastern Church calendar/calculation.

I applaud its decision in this regard! Now, what if both East and West could be unite on the basis of the calendar at least if both East and West accepted the ancient Easter calculation which the Eastern Churches still follow (while accepting the Western calendar in all else).

What about it, Vox Populi?

Alex
 
Alexander_Roman said:
I understand that the Latin Catholic Church in Israel will, beginning next year, celebrate Easter on the Eastern Church calendar/calculation.

I applaud its decision in this regard! Now, what if both East and West could be unite on the basis of the calendar at least if both East and West accepted the ancient Easter calculation which the Eastern Churches still follow (while accepting the Western calendar in all else).

What about it, Vox Populi?

Alex
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I wonder if the secular government would move the Good Friday holidays based on this? Most countries are secular nowadays and the Good Friday holiday is just grandfathered. I don’t mind taking a day off for Good Friday, I already do for Holy Thursday when I serve at the Cathedral (at least this year I took the morning off to serve at the Liturgy). For me its a bonus that I don’t have to take a vacation leave on Friday and I’m free to spend as much time as needed in church. Also helps that its not a work day, I don’t have to worry about deadlines and meetings.
 
1inICXC said:
I’m sorry, but it seems that NO ONE on these forums gets this issue, in the least! We are not talking about what HAPPENED, Easter, HAPPENS every year! We’re not just remembering or commemorating the events of 2000 yrs ago. the church LIVES these events!

Easter is not simply a celebration of the Resurrection like every Sunday. The Church teaches, that in Christ’s mystical body, these events actually reoccur every year. As such, we have no masses on Good Friday ( or if we do they’re with the pre-sanctified Gifts" and on Easter Sunday we proclaim that Christ is Rise, that day!!!

So, for one, that means that Christ’s mystical body goes through the agony twice and that the resurrection also happens twice. This in itself is a huge problem!! But then, do we add insult to injury by ignoring one or by celebrating both? I simply don’t understand how the Church leaders accept and tolerate this kind of division regarding the DATE OF EASTER no less!

For instance, with one part of the family we celebrated Easter today, though we attended the Palm Sunday mass (as if that makes sense, but hey, we didn’t create this situation), but we will be celebrating Easter, in our Church next week. Now, explain to children how it comes that we get 2 Easters!

And in out great love for Christ, we allow His mystical body to suffer that terrible agony twice? That’s hypocrisy at very best.

Technically, some say it is heretical to celebrate Easter twice, since, again, we are LIVING the events of Easter, not just remembering them, but what is it to ignore Christ’s death next Friday?

God have mercy on us!
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This doesn’t hold up logically, though-even if every Catholic Church in the world held Good Friday service at exactly 3:00 PM, it would be happening at different times because of time zone differences. Not to mention that the entire Triduum is miraculously recreated at every Mass.
 
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