Chaldean Catholic Church

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jj2011 said:
Out here they have Liturgy facing the people, communion in the hand. I wish they’d go back to doing things right.
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Are these latinizations prevalent in all Chaldean parishes? Are they now part of their liturgical norms, or are they viewed as innovations and deviations from the norms?
 
djrakowski said:
Are these latinizations prevalent in all Chaldean parishes? Are they now part of their liturgical norms, or are they viewed as innovations and deviations from the norms?
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I may have to check it out. I live only about 1/2 mile from the Chaldean Cathedral here in Southfield.
 
WanderAimlessly said:
I may have to check it out. I live only about 1/2 mile from the Chaldean Cathedral here in Southfield.
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And I live just a few miles from St. Joseph in Troy. It’s a very large church, situated on a major surface street, and I’ve seen police directing traffic on particularly busy days.
 
The suffering of the Chaldeans in particular and Iraqi Christians in general is a matter close to my heart.
 
jj2011 said:
Out here they have Liturgy facing the people, communion in the hand. I wish they’d go back to doing things right.
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I’m guessing the reformed mass has not come into effect wherever you are (where are you?)

There have been a lot of changes and you can read about them here.
 
bpbasilphx said:
The suffering of the Chaldeans in particular and Iraqi Christians in general is a matter close to my heart.
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Agreed… same here. There’s a sizable Chaldean population in our city, so I share your concern.
 
HailMary said:
I’m guessing the reformed mass has not come into effect wherever you are (where are you?)

There have been a lot of changes and you can read about them here.
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All I know is I attended Liturgy in El Cajon twelve years ago and they had communion in the hand and versus populum. How are things done now?
 
jj2011 said:
All I know is I attended Liturgy in El Cajon twelve years ago and they had communion in the hand and versus populum. How are things done now?
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Did you read that link?

There is only by Intinction in San Diego now. I cannot recall a time when it was otherwise, but maybe I was too young to tell.
 
HailMary said:
Did you read that link?

There is only by Intinction in San Diego now. I cannot recall a time when it was otherwise, but maybe I was too young to tell.
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I did read the link a moment ago, and I am all for reinstating the Sanctuary Veil and celebration ad orientem, as well as ending communion in the hand.
 
When bishop Ibrahim came to speak at our event in October we inquired as to whether or not he would be willing to officiate at a Byzantine (Ukrainian) liturgy. He declined primarily because the liturgy he knew is so much different from the Byzantine liturgy. My impression is that it is something resembling the NO. But I could be wrong.

CDL
 
GregoryPalamas said:
When bishop Ibrahim came to speak at our event in October we inquired as to whether or not he would be willing to officiate at a Byzantine (Ukrainian) liturgy. He declined primarily because the liturgy he knew is so much different from the Byzantine liturgy. My impression is that it is something resembling the NO. But I could be wrong.

CDL
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Why wouldn’t you ask him to celebrate the Qorbono? You get Divine Liturgy every week and had a Chaldean bishop with you. It seems logical you would take the opportunity to experience it!

Was he alone? That would make it hard for him to celebrate if no one else around knew how to respond.
 
I probably misspoke. I am not familiar with the Qurbana of the Chaldean Catholics. I was mostly responding to Bishop’s comment that they had no iconostasis in his Church except for one and the priest who has one is considered to be a bit eccentric. I should not have assumed that this meant a latinization. He consecrated the elements at the Ukrainian Church where he assisted with the liturgy. I do not know exactly why he did not offer to celebrate a Qurbana but it may well have been that he would have been the only one who would have known the liturgy.

I plan to be with him sometime during Christmastide in Southfield. I’ll ask him then.

CDL
 
jj2011 said:
All I know is I attended Liturgy in El Cajon twelve years ago and they had communion in the hand and versus populum. How are things done now?
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Don’t you think that’s kind of a long time past on which to base a statement that they should do away with latinizations? :confused:

Many years,

Neil
 
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