He hasnt saved up enough for what retiree insurance wont cover, which unless you have millions isnt a realistic possibility. Working for 70’s years is hardly what I call freedom. Ever since the corporate structure was invented in the mid 1800s I say we have a new feudalism, corporate feudalism. Once the econemy gets turned around homebased buninesses should be on the rise again,and make the corporate world have to compete for employees again.
Thats why our ancestors came. We are here because we were BORN here. I don’t move to another country for several reasons, first I’d be amungst strangers, i dont mix with others well, Id like to keep the friends I do have. My family is here,the familiariy factor again. I have learning disabilities that would make learning a new language near impossible and not practical. Food alleriges keep me away from some countries, I’m very allergic to a spice I cant pin down that is in most Oriental foods, and I’m allergic to it severely. I’d be leaving without my wife, it would cause a divorce. Wehn family memebers pass away I wouldn’t be able to go to the funeral.
Coke and Pepsi are nearly identical products. In terms of value they are equal. Choosing between the two is simply a matter of taste preference.
This is true.
Pathia would disagree with you…
There is no cookie cutter approach to health care. Every country does it different. The one thing they all manage to do - yet we do not - is cover all of their citizens.
What a deal!!
Let’s see what pathia says. One way to prevent her from being permitted to buy health insurance is to make it so expensive that no-one could afford it. That is one way to ‘legally’ conspire to keep her from buying it at any price. This is one loop-hole that health care reform would fix.
This same argument applies to the water system. You could complain that your water bill is benefiting others by paying for clean water availability to, say, the bums that live in the park and use the water fountain as their source of drinking water. Yet, having clean water everywhere is one way to prevent a cholera epidemic. They used to be common before clean water became ubiquitous throughout most of the U.S. In the same way, having health care available to all keeps us all healthier - we do not live in a vacuum.
Royal archer, that’s just silly. I could say that you insist on penalizing the healthy by insisting that the sick remain among them.
This ‘solution’ is not only brutal but it is unnecessary. Again, we in the U.S. spend more money - your money and mine - for less care than every other civilized western country in the world. I dunno about you but I’d like to spend less money not more. If they can figure out how, why can’t we?
Predictable answer. Let’s say a chicken plant just closed in a town near me. 800 chicken plant workers need jobs. Think Monster will be the place for them to find work?
Not if the contract permits this to happen. Insurance companies are very good at writing contracts with loopholes in them. Health care reform will address this.
Reforming the health care system will not only insure those who have no coverage now but will save money for you and I.
The dog’s life is in no way as precious or valuable as a human’s life. That being said, what kind of tumor was it?
Insulin without a doctor’s script, or continued diabetic care, could easily be fatal. Oxygen… hmm I think welders use oxygen, it’s highly flammable… There are probably good reasons it requires a prescription but I’m not familiar with oxygen prescriptions so I’ll say maybe it could be safe without a script.
RA's posts here show that while he may understand a tiny bit of the fianancial aspect of healthcare, he doesn't in the least understand the medical aspect which is lightyears more important than the money part by any stretch of any imagination. I however have a grandmother who was an RN before any of us involved in this thread were in diapers, and she taught me lots of things over the years with lots of aspects of caring for people. She was proud to be a nurse, and it obviously was her calling. Medical care is not just another business transaction as RA see it. We are dealing with human beings, not animals, not cars. Medical care has chnged vastly since our country was founded. Our first presedent died by have blood letting done on him for pneumonia,a fallacy out of medieval medicine. It's time to get pragatic about health care, and leave old ideals behind. If RA is so interested in following the constitution he would be interesting in abolishing the driverslescense. What ever comes out will not be perfect, but can be improved upon as time goes by. What gets passed while using elements of other countries can be still uniquely American.And after reading all of your posts, they show that you only want to get yours. You show no understanding why someone wouldn’t want to pay EVEN MORE for less.
You seem to think that if everyone just listened to your 70+ year old grandma, everyone would be happy and healthy. You do understand that many patients would not want a 70+ year old trying to put in an IV? Or a Foley? In addition, reaction times increase as you age. If a loved one was having a heart attack, I don’t know that I would choose a 70+ year old over a younger faster nurse.
Driver License laws are state or local. They are not federal.
Name one nation wide program run by the government that works. Just one,
I want to pay even less for more, like the other western countries that have national health systems. Right now the U.S. publis is paying MORE for LESS.
Name one program -except for these because maryjk doesn’t believe they work… lol. hmmm my mother is on Medicare and Social Security and I am thankful for it and so is she.
Hey that’s an idea…Well, lets see how the operate. The only plans they offer are catastrophic ones, with no prescription drug coverage at about $600-800 a month, with a $10,000 deductible. That is $17,000 to $20,000 a year before the coverage will kick in, at all. Furthermore, every time I HAVE had insurance, they protest every single claim as being related to my chronic conditions, even if there is no medical evidence to support it, making me have to hire lawyers to fight refusal of payment of claims for things like kidney stones, gall stones, pneumonia and back in 2002, appendicitis.
They write the contracts in a way such as being able to break them on the grounds of typos and mistakes forgotten due to time. I have had my insurance contract dropped from underneath me twice as a minor, once when I was an infant, they said my mother’s pregnancy was a ‘pre-existing condition’. Then when I was 17, my hormonal problems were blamed on a uncovered ‘sex change’ procedure, despite the fact I will DIE without hormones of some sort because by body does not have a functioning endocrine system. Think of me as a diabetic, except replace insulin with all the hormones in your body, I essentially have NONE of those.
I do not want to move, the majority of my friends and family are in the US. I will be losing almost everything I’ve ever had, all connections, everything. It’s hardly a ‘want’. I simply appear to have no other choice.
GI bill! And that not even debateble. You mis the point with my grandmother, who happens to be 87 by the way. Anyone who is a well trained nurse would do, the one I happen to know well is my grandmother, for my wife it would be a cousin of her’s. I was refering to what my grandmother taught me about her field of work over the years , not how well she could do the job today. I can’t believe I have to explain that point to anyone, it should go without saying.
Medicare and Social Security are hemorrhaging money. By the time I am old enough to collect Social Security, there will be nothing left. That is why the program doesn’t work.Name one program -except for these because maryjk doesn’t believe they work… lol. hmmm my mother is on Medicare and Social Security and I am thankful for it and so is she.
How about the health care program our congressmen and women are on? That seems to work fine. I’d like to be on that. Or something like that…
The GI bill is not a country wide program. It is a program for a select group of people because of the job they did. Do that job and you can get that program. Sorry, that doesn’t count either.
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So not being among strangers is more imprant to than health. or basicaly you are saying others have to forfiet their income so you can be around people you know?
With this enlightening comment you may want to reevaluate why you have not gotten the opportunities that you blame on corporate politics.
Can’t learn English or “Canadian” eh?
Then don’t eat them.
Once again, it sounds like you are throwing out health and imminent death as the reason you want this health tax but then it turns out that you put the fact your life doesn’t want to move as the reason. Dude, I had to leave my friends and family to keep a job and get this income and I have had to spend much time asway from my immediate fammily to earn a pay check. What you are listing here does not sweem like good rationale for taking that money away from me.
OK, pick up vs sports car. Bottom line is everyone has a choice if they are willing to accept the consequences that come with those choices.
America is a high risk high reward society. There are winners and those who do not win. The advantage of the American system is that there used to be no limits on success. For most Americans the opportunity for success outweighs the risk of failure. Those who are risk adverse maybe shouldn’t live here.But that risk adversion should not be reason to limmit the opportunities of others.
So is Boeing descriminating against me because they priced 747’s out of my price range.
That is a matter of pennies added to a bill, not thousands of dollars added to our bill.
It was your suggestion. I have no problem with looking at lessons learned by other countries that truly reduce costs, as I have said 438 times (guessed at number, lost count)
over 1600 new jobs yesterday. that exceeds the 800 needed. There are also new jobs created daily. while it may take a few months to get everyone placed, unemployment and cobra is meant to fill the gap.
But that is not how it is being portrayed in the media. There it is being treatedlike the insurers are indescriminately dropping people.
#439: great if there are things we can learn to do it better, great, just don’t pass off shell games and descriminatory taxes as reform.
Right, but we had 100% success. I am not saying that the cost could be driven all the way down to vet cost but there is lots of room for improvement. The first several were benign but They kept coming back faster than we could get them cut out. With the amount of treatement required and the resulting quality of life we determined it was his time.
Next tiem you are at a pharmacy look behind the counter and ask yourself if all of that realy needs to have a script.
I know people in my family well enough to know what they are going to say before they say it. You talk about destroy healthcare, I say it its near worthless already since one has to either be rich or loose their fanny to access it. If not everyone can acess something thats life saving then no one has a right to it. You treat healthcare like its buying a car, very flippent. One’s income determines one’s right to live. If you are so scared of reform you must be an insurance Therapist.
Then propose a system that actually lowers cost not just encourages more people to stop working. Unfortunately the one going through congress is nothing more than an attempt to shift money from those who earned it to those who voted for Obama.
Medicare, social security and other ponsi schemes all work till the supply of gulible individuals runs out.Name one program -except for these because maryjk doesn’t believe they work… lol. hmmm my mother is on Medicare and Social Security and I am thankful for it and so is she.
How about the health care program our congressmen and women are on? That seems to work fine. I’d like to be on that. Or something like that…